Carson
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Eagles would beWait so the GIANTS were a threat to take a QB?
I'm not following your logic.
Eagles would beWait so the GIANTS were a threat to take a QB?
I'm not following your logic.
You're gonna need a bigger boat...for all of that baggage you're carrying.Now I don’t really care about the fact they traded down with the eagles and we gotta face deshaun Jackson 2.0 twice a year again. That prob woulda happened anyways with the giants right behind us and the eagles at 12 anyways, he was going to be in our division.
The obvious problem is not trading down with the bears and getting a first rounder next year. The bears are in limbo and fields might be able to make them a winner and fast but I still think it could all go south in Chicago this year and they could end up drafting in the top 10 next year and gained a 4th that coulda allowed us a chance to move up into the teens again and still have gotten parson or even Collins if Micah was gone. I’m jealous at what NYG did though I’m not about the player they selected. Even coulda gotten darrisaw at 20.
I understand your point Z. But honestly we won’t really know how this FO did in this draft or with that trade possibility for a while. Most fans’ opinion about what a great draft looks like is a kaleidoscope of pet cats and pre-draft hype. Some of it may be right. But we won’t know for a while.Now I don’t really care about the fact they traded down with the eagles and we gotta face deshaun Jackson 2.0 twice a year again. That prob woulda happened anyways with the giants right behind us and the eagles at 12 anyways, he was going to be in our division.
The obvious problem is not trading down with the bears and getting a first rounder next year. The bears are in limbo and fields might be able to make them a winner and fast but I still think it could all go south in Chicago this year and they could end up drafting in the top 10 next year and gained a 4th that coulda allowed us a chance to move up into the teens again and still have gotten parson or even Collins if Micah was gone. I’m jealous at what NYG did though I’m not about the player they selected. Even coulda gotten darrisaw at 20.
Right, but that means Chicago doesn't begin to make phone calls until pick 11?Eagles would be
They knew NYG nor Dallas was taking a QB, so they had to get in front of Philly. Only if they thought Philly was taking a QB. They probably could have waited and got a deal at 14 with the NYJ to get in front of NE. But that's their loss.After moaning about this for the last 12 hours, there are definitely a few ways to look at it.
In the end, like every other draft move, it's going to take time to assess.
But the idea that Chicago made a deal for a QB at 11 and never bothered to call the team holding the 10th pick is absurd logic.
I don't think the Cowboys would have given the Bears a better and deal considering they were a pick a ahead of the GMen. Also, The Cowboys probably felt the 1st round was a bust if they did not come away with Parsons (explained very eloquently by our highly esteemed C.C.).Now I don’t really care about the fact they traded down with the eagles and we gotta face deshaun Jackson 2.0 twice a year again. That prob woulda happened anyways with the giants right behind us and the eagles at 12 anyways, he was going to be in our division.
The obvious problem is not trading down with the bears and getting a first rounder next year. The bears are in limbo and fields might be able to make them a winner and fast but I still think it could all go south in Chicago this year and they could end up drafting in the top 10 next year and gained a 4th that coulda allowed us a chance to move up into the teens again and still have gotten parson or even Collins if Micah was gone. I’m jealous at what NYG did though I’m not about the player they selected. Even coulda gotten darrisaw at 20.
Who did we get at 20 in your scenario than?
I understand your point Z. But honestly we won’t really know how this FO did in this draft or with that trade possibility for a while. Most fans’ opinion about what a great draft looks like is a kaleidoscope of pet cats and pre-draft hype. Some of it may be right. But we won’t know for a while.
Exactly, until someone confirms that the Bears offered us the same trade and we turned it down then I'm not going to gnash my teeth. I'm no fan of Jerry Jones as a GM or owner, there is a lot of things he has done wrong. I don't need to come up with something I'm guessing at or assuming might have happened to be mad at. Jerry has given me 25 years of reality to be angry at, I don't need assumptions or fantasy to be mad at him even more.1) So we know we were offered the same thing?
2) we aren't getting a player like Parsons at #20
3) a 3 this year is kind of treated like a a 2 next year, which means a 1 next year is similar to a 2 this year. So Micah and a 3 vs pick #20 and a 2? I'm happy with what we did. But then again, I'm hoping to not suck this year.
That's a tremendous question leading into a great point.Who did we get at 20 in your scenario than?
Feel we missed an opportunityNow I don’t really care about the fact they traded down with the eagles and we gotta face deshaun Jackson 2.0 twice a year again. That prob woulda happened anyways with the giants right behind us and the eagles at 12 anyways, he was going to be in our division.
The obvious problem is not trading down with the bears and getting a first rounder next year. The bears are in limbo and fields might be able to make them a winner and fast but I still think it could all go south in Chicago this year and they could end up drafting in the top 10 next year and gained a 4th that coulda allowed us a chance to move up into the teens again and still have gotten parson or even Collins if Micah was gone. I’m jealous at what NYG did though I’m not about the player they selected. Even coulda gotten darrisaw at 20.
Lol, yep....can't argue that.Exactly, until someone confirms that the Bears offered us the same trade and we turned it down then I'm not going to gnash my teeth. I'm no fan of Jerry Jones as a GM or owner, there is a lot of things he has done wrong. I don't need to come up with something I'm guessing at or assuming might have happened to be mad at. Jerry has given me 25 years of reality to be angry at, I don't need assumptions or fantasy to be mad at him even more.
Even coulda gotten darrisaw at 20.
Give up the chance to take the best defensive player in the draft and an extra 3rd pick? SMH.Now I don’t really care about the fact they traded down with the eagles and we gotta face deshaun Jackson 2.0 twice a year again. That prob woulda happened anyways with the giants right behind us and the eagles at 12 anyways, he was going to be in our division.
The obvious problem is not trading down with the bears and getting a first rounder next year. The bears are in limbo and fields might be able to make them a winner and fast but I still think it could all go south in Chicago this year and they could end up drafting in the top 10 next year and gained a 4th that coulda allowed us a chance to move up into the teens again and still have gotten parson or even Collins if Micah was gone. I’m jealous at what NYG did though I’m not about the player they selected. Even coulda gotten darrisaw at 20.
Now I don’t really care about the fact they traded down with the eagles and we gotta face deshaun Jackson 2.0 twice a year again. That prob woulda happened anyways with the giants right behind us and the eagles at 12 anyways, he was going to be in our division.
The obvious problem is not trading down with the bears and getting a first rounder next year. The bears are in limbo and fields might be able to make them a winner and fast but I still think it could all go south in Chicago this year and they could end up drafting in the top 10 next year and gained a 4th that coulda allowed us a chance to move up into the teens again and still have gotten parson or even Collins if Micah was gone. I’m jealous at what NYG did though I’m not about the player they selected. Even coulda gotten darrisaw at 20.