Video: Rapoport w Shan & RJ: Cowboys had Parsons above CBs

[blueblood70]

Yes I'm guessing.....by applying logic.

I did not speak in absolute terms.

Someone in particular keeps saying that this offer was not made and was publicly stated as so. No source or link provided upon request.

THATS not a guess?

Of course we will never know what really happened, but we can take what we know and what makes sense and debate to a reasonable conclusion.

My point on saying it never happened is the same.as your point toward my post.....we don't KNOW what happened...yet you're trying to tell me it's OK to accept one side of the argument, but not the one that logic supports.

Let me ask you personally.....you're Chicago. You like Fields. You know you have to go up to get him. You actually DID make a deal at 11 to get him.

Are you saying that making a call to Dallas at 10 at some point prior to the draft didn't even happen??

Of course it did.

Simply, if Dallas turned them down that's fine....but the call probably happened and the offer was probably made.

again no proof, no story..

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[Bowdown27]

I think Cox falling in their laps was huge. Truly a gift and something they didn’t ‘plan’ on happening. His addition helps the linebacker overhaul to happen much sooner. They have great depth this year and plenty of options next year.

Exactly! It was a good draft. The future is now.

 

[blueblood70]

You can't assume that Fields is better than Jones or will be.

Gettleman has been all in on Jones all along (overdrafted) and it's way too soon to give up on him.

What he actually did here was hedge his bet....with the extra first he now has ammo to go get someone in the next draft if Jones appears to be regressing.

IMO they should have taken him anyway theres no proof Lawrence , Lance, or others will be any good anyway..yet when the opportunity comes you grab it like CHI did,...you a Giants fan , thats whats wrong with you Closet Gnat fan..now it makes sense..

we have a spy in our midst guys be careful..

that odd the Cardinals fired their coach and QB after only one year. Sometimes when you know you know..reboot..Jones is another Mitch period its obvious..Wentzs and Goff are far better then Jones and se what happened with them..you grab one when you can..period,..


im glad they dint do it, seriously..

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[BourbonBalz]

They still took a gamble to trade back behind the Giants. Someone could have traded up to take Parsons.

No, if any team was going to trade up there it was for a QB, which is exactly what happened.

 

[gimmesix]

Ian even went on to say Dallas would have traded back if Micah was gone but one of the CBs were available. Interesting....

I like it myself just because if true it means the team was really sold on dude and didn't just settle. I also really like Parsons and think we did well to get Joseph in the 2nd.

I believe that he was the highest rated defender, but based on what they said immediately after the draft about the cornerbacks, I have a very hard time believing they would have traded back if one was available at 10.

 

[Zekeats]

People don’t think that these guys who work for Jerry won’t right a story the way he wants it? Mickey is Jerry’s biggest rat and Rappaport prob just made an easy 30k to right a tweet

 

[McKDaddy]

Not mine. I said that's how I see the Cowboys ranked it based on need.

If you don't see need as the #1 reason to fix this defense, this defense would never get fixed. Cowboys did well.

scary to think that a team would factor that into their base rankings at all. those should be pure. then discussions about where you would deviate from your board based on need.

 

[speedkilz88]

scary to think that a team would factor that into their base rankings at all. those should be pure. then discussions about where you would deviate from your board based on need.

No team does it pure. Many times there are players with very similar grades and they are going to lean towards more important positions or needs when close.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Do you feel it’s guaranteed that the Giants would pass on Parsons for a lesser receiver?

Last I checked, the Giants aren’t overflowing with linebackers.

So initially I didn't think they would. I thought they should've went Parsons. But I Do believe the Cowboys KNEW they didn't want Parsons or they didn't want a linebacker. And how it played out kind of says that. They could've went linebacker at 20 or wherever they were at and still didn't. They seemed to be adamant on wide receiver. I disagree with it because I think Parsons makes that defense LEGIT for years to come.

Unless I'm missing something why did the Giants trade out of their pick after the Cowboys traded with the Eagles knowing Parsons would still be there? They seemed to really want Devonta Smith.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Giants lost out on WR Smith. There was rumor that they might go Parsons and like I already said someone could have traded with the Giants to get Parsons.

So a few things.

1) Teams don't trade up for linebackers. Incredibly rare. Trade ups are usually meant for quarterbacks and to a lesser extent wide receivers. When you are that high in the draft anyway.
2. If Giants wanted Parsons why didn't they take him instead of trading out of the pick?

 

[pacy]

So initially I didn't think the would. I thought they should've went Parsons. But I Do believe the Cowboys KNEW they didn't want Parsons or they didn't want a linebacker. And how it played out kind of says that. They could've went linebacker at 20 or wherever they were at and still didn't. They seemed to be adamant on wide receiver. I disagree with it because I think Parsons makes that defense LEGIT for years to come.

Unless I'm missing something why did the Giants trade out of their pick after the Cowboys traded with the Eagles knowing Parsons would still be there? They seemed to really want Devonta Smith.

Well, the Giants got a great deal for trading back.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well, the Giants got a great deal for trading back.

They did. But this is the same argument that I had with people even on draft night who wanted to trade back....I wouldn't have traded back to miss out on both Slater or Parsons. Just wouldn't have. And to me it was stupid for the Giants to do it. It would make sense for the Eagles to do it because they seem to be rebuilding. But the Giants have a solid defense and they are spending money on offense and I'm assuming trying to take advantage of Saquon's prime....so missing out on a premiere talent at linebacker was stupid IMO.

 

[pacy]

They did. But this is the same argument that I had with people even on draft night who wanted to trade back....I wouldn't have traded back to miss out on both Slater or Parsons. Just wouldn't have. And to me it was stupid for the Giants to do it. It would make sense for the Eagles to do it because they seem to be rebuilding. But the Giants have a solid defense and they are spending money on offense and I'm assuming trying to take advantage of Saquon's prime....so missing out on a premiere talent at linebacker was stupid IMO.

And I agree. But this is actually proofing my point. The Cowboys gambled by trading back. The Giants should have drafted Parsons.

The Cowboys were fine to lose out on Parsons. That is why I don't believe that they would have passed on Surtain/Horn to take Parsons.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And I agree. But this is actually proofing my point. The Cowboys gambled by trading back. The Giants should have drafted Parsons.

The Cowboys were fine to lose out on Parsons. That is why I don't believe that they would have passed on Surtain/Horn to take Parsons.

I see what you're saying.....but they took a receiver after they traded down from receiver......so my only argument here is that they were adamant on going receiver. They don't seem to have had any intention on going linebacker with that pick because they had so many chances to get one.

 

[DBOY3141]

They did. But this is the same argument that I had with people even on draft night who wanted to trade back....I wouldn't have traded back to miss out on both Slater or Parsons. Just wouldn't have. And to me it was stupid for the Giants to do it. It would make sense for the Eagles to do it because they seem to be rebuilding. But the Giants have a solid defense and they are spending money on offense and I'm assuming trying to take advantage of Saquon's prime....so missing out on a premiere talent at linebacker was stupid IMO.

there was also a rumor that the Giants thought Parsons was a diva like OBJ and didn't want that again.

 

[MarcusRock]

I’m wrong a lot but I said this days before the draft… There is too much CB smoke coming from Dallas. They want the CB’s gone before 10. Parsons is the Pick. Then Slater said it. I knew he was the target all along. He’s just what this defense needs.

Sure buddy. You knew it all along. So when I posted that Pitts and Surtain would be gone by the time 10 rolled around weeks before, you were one of the mockers. Something about telling me to predict the future because "mama needed a new pair of shoes" or something. So yeah, you are wrong a lot. Lol.

 

[Cowboyny]

Name some.

The boy scouts were players like the offensive lineman, Byron, etc.

 

[pacy]

I see what you're saying.....but they took a receiver after they traded down from receiver......so my only argument here is that they were adamant on going receiver. They don't seem to have had any intention on going linebacker with that pick because they had so many chances to get one.

I understand. Only question is, if the Giants wouldn't have gotten that deal from the Bears, who would they have picked ? Slater? Parsons? Receiver? Did the Cowboys know about the Bears deal and that the Giants would take it?

We probably never find out. It worked out for the Cowboys in the end. But for them to now openly say that it was Parsons all day long, I don't buy it.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

there was also a rumor that the Giants thought Parsons was a diva like OBJ and didn't want that again.

Yeah I believe I heard that too.......

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I understand. Only question is, if the Giants wouldn't have gotten that deal from the Bears, who would they have picked ? Slater? Parsons? Receiver? Did the Cowboys know about the Bears deal and that the Giants would take it?

We probably never find out. It worked out for the Cowboys in the end. But for them to now openly say that it was Parsons all day long, I don't buy it.

Yeah that's the mystery.

And I do wonder did they know they wouldn't go Parsons......seems like it would've been fitting for them to just take Parsons if that Bears wasn't there unless it was true that they just didn't want Parsons on their team.