NFC East Greatest Superbowl Teams Who Would Win?

[StarOfGlory]

90's Eagle teams were better than the 2017 Eagles team.

1989-91 Eagles D probably the best ever in the NFCE. Buddy Ryan and Bud Carson said it was the best defense he ever coached, and best he ever saw before his death. I probably agree.

 

[kskboys]

Perfectly balanced football team. Could beat you in any style contest. Vastly underrated Defense. The 92 Cowboys-embarrassed teams on 3rd Down on both offense and defense.

Best team I've ever seen bar none. Terrified of losing. Improved in leaps and bounds every week.

Once this team shook the jitters in the SB, it had reached it's pinnacle. Few teams ever had the weapons on offense the Bills did to even cause some sealegs for the Cowboys.

For example:

The Cowboys would have beaten the 85 Bears by no less than 10 points because the Bears offered little on offense vs Dallas's defense. Payton & Gault would not be enough to get it done- not even close.

The '89 49ers maybe would take 2 of 5 contests. Nobody else.

I know, isn't it weird that the D wasn't talked about? I didn't realize until later that the 92 team had the best D in the NFL. I think a ton of people still don't know.

 

[plasticman]

The only real competition would have been between the 77 Cowboys and the 92 Cowboys. A very close runner up would be the 71 Cowboys. I don't see any other NFC East Super Bowl team capable of beating any of those three teams.

Have you ever noticed that the Cowboys never lost a Super Bowl by more than 4 points? Until the Giant-Bills SB in 90, the three closest losses in Super Bowl history were the three Cowboy losses. Then the Giants win by 1 point in the 1990 Super Bowl.

And, yet, they never won a Super Bowl by less than double digits. The five winning Super Bowls have an average margin of victory of 20 points.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Time for a change of pace thread for some fun.

If the following great teams from the NFC East Played one another in a round robin tournament how would the finish from top to bottom.

1986 NY Giants - Overall Record 14-2- offense led by Sims , Morris , Bavaro / Defense led by LT , Martin , Marshall, Carson this scary defense wreaked havoc and dominated. The Giants Offense was blue collar like and averaged 23.2 PPG which ranked 8th. There Defense gave up 14.8 ppg which ranked 2nd

1991- Washington Commanders - Overall Record 14-2 Offense was explosive 30.3 ppg for number 1 ranking while the defense ranked 2nd only giving up 14.0 ppg - offense was led by Rypien , Clark, Monk , Byner & the Hogs. Defense Also Loaded with Mann , Marshall, Millen , Green and Collins

1992 Dallas Cowboys - 13-3 Overall Record Offense was ranked 2nd averaging 15.6 ppg while the defense gave up 15.2 ppg good for the 5th spot . Offense featured the triplets, The great wall, novacek / The defense was led by Haley , Maryland, Norton

2017 Philadelphia Eagles 13-3 Overall Record they scored 28.6 ppg good for 3rd best and the defense gave up 18.4 ppg good for 4th offense featured foles, blount, ertz , jeffrey - while the defense featured Cox, Jenkins Darby and Grahem

Who You Got ? How would they Finish And Why

92-93 season Dallas Cowboys easily

 

[Melonfeud]

Time for a change of pace thread for some fun.

If the following great teams from the NFC East Played one another in a round robin tournament how would the finish from top to bottom.

1986 NY Giants - Overall Record 14-2- offense led by Sims , Morris , Bavaro / Defense led by LT , Martin , Marshall, Carson this scary defense wreaked havoc and dominated. The Giants Offense was blue collar like and averaged 23.2 PPG which ranked 8th. There Defense gave up 14.8 ppg which ranked 2nd

1991- Washington Commanders - Overall Record 14-2 Offense was explosive 30.3 ppg for number 1 ranking while the defense ranked 2nd only giving up 14.0 ppg - offense was led by Rypien , Clark, Monk , Byner & the Hogs. Defense Also Loaded with Mann , Marshall, Millen , Green and Collins

1992 Dallas Cowboys - 13-3 Overall Record Offense was ranked 2nd averaging 15.6 ppg while the defense gave up 15.2 ppg good for the 5th spot . Offense featured the triplets, The great wall, novacek / The defense was led by Haley , Maryland, Norton

2017 Philadelphia Eagles 13-3 Overall Record they scored 28.6 ppg good for 3rd best and the defense gave up 18.4 ppg good for 4th offense featured foles, blount, ertz , jeffrey - while the defense featured Cox, Jenkins Darby and Grahem

Who You Got ? How would they Finish And Why

*Quite naturally ,,,,:


1) 1992 Cowboys,,, w.t.f.?

2) 1991 Commander's of the Current countrys A O's fictitious capital of mounded up heap of crap.


3)2017 Philly team of compiled & compacted lower intestinal bowel blockage.


4) them crack rock suckin' scumbagger's of N.Y. GNAT aspired fame



*That's just the way the chips fall on my green felt covered gaming table of time dimensions intermeld there, BROUGHAM'S.

 

[JoeKing]

Wow. That Commanders team was a very tough group to beat but I believe the '92 Cowboys could do it. In '92 the NFC had the top two teams in the league. Even if it was the 49ers playing that SB, they would have beat the Bills.

 

[MikeB80]

I know, isn't it weird that the D wasn't talked about? I didn't realize until later that the 92 team had the best D in the NFL. I think a ton of people still don't know.

it was always talked about. The defense was on the cover of sports illustrated the week after beating Oakland in 92.

people who do not know how good that defense was and only know the triplets aren’t worth paying attention to.

 

[MikeB80]

The only real competition would have been between the 77 Cowboys and the 92 Cowboys. A very close runner up would be the 71 Cowboys. I don't see any other NFC East Super Bowl team capable of beating any of those three teams.

Have you ever noticed that the Cowboys never lost a Super Bowl by more than 4 points? Until the Giant-Bills SB in 90, the three closest losses in Super Bowl history were the three Cowboy losses. Then the Giants win by 1 point in the 1990 Super Bowl.

And, yet, they never won a Super Bowl by less than double digits. The five winning Super Bowls have an average margin of victory of 20 points.

with all respect this is just not a realistic view. Downplaying how good those other east teams were is rewriting history.

They were great teams who dominated their Super Bowls. The giants dismantled the Broncos and Simms was nearly perfect..that giants team won 17 games in 86.

the Commanders embarrassed the bills. They also won 17 games that year. They were all time teams.

 

[Jinxx13x]

it was always talked about. The defense was on the cover of sports illustrated the week after beating Oakland in 92.

people who do not know how good that defense was and only know the triplets aren’t worth paying attention to.

Yeah that 92 Team was The #1 defense i believe when ranked by total yards i listed their ranking based on points allowed that D was so much fun to watch !

 

[mmohican29]

Yeah that 92 Team was The #1 defense i believe when ranked by total yards i listed their ranking based on points allowed that D was so much fun to watch !

Pat Summerall:

"4th. Down. The _____ need this play to have any chance.

Incomplete. Batted away by____ .The Cowboys take over on downs."

 

[ICP]

No offense but that’s a dumb question. The 92 Cowboys would thrash them all handily. Did you not watch them play?

Exactly

 

[plasticman]

with all respect this is just not a realistic view. Downplaying how good those other east teams were is rewriting history.

They were great teams who dominated their Super Bowls. The giants dismantled the Broncos and Simms was nearly perfect..that giants team won 17 games in 86.

the Commanders embarrassed the bills. They also won 17 games that year. They were all time teams.

With all respect:

92 Cowboys, ranked #1 defense, #1 against the run
#2 offensive scoring

71 Cowboys #1 ranked offense in both scoring and yardage, #3 ranked defense, #1 ranked takeaways, #2 against the run

86 Giants #8 scoring offense, #10 offensive yards, #2 ranked defense scoring and yardage

If the Giants had a serious chance against either team, they would have to really pass, not the 25 passes that Sims threw, because they would have gotten nothing from their 35 rushing attempts, excluding Rutledge's 3 sitdowns at the end of the game.

....But I might give you the Commanders, it would be a fight. However, the 71 Cowboy team had Roger Staubach.....an automatic loss for the Commanders..

 

[MikeB80]

With all respect:

92 Cowboys, ranked #1 defense, #1 against the run
#2 offensive scoring

71 Cowboys #1 ranked offense in both scoring and yardage, #3 ranked defense, #1 ranked takeaways, #2 against the run

86 Giants #8 scoring offense, #10 offensive yards, #2 ranked defense scoring and yardage

If the Giants had a serious chance against either team, they would have to really pass, not the 25 passes that Sims threw, because they would have gotten nothing from their 35 rushing attempts, excluding Rutledge's 3 sitdowns at the end of the game.

....But I might give you the Commanders, it would be a fight. However, the 71 Cowboy team had Roger Staubach.....an automatic loss for the Commanders..

joe Morris rushed for 1500 yards, as a team they rushed for 2245 yards. They had a total of 5378 yards.

the 92 Cowboys
Emmitt rushed for 1713 and the team rushed for 2121 yards. Total yards for the team was 5606.

those numbers seem pretty even especially when I keep seeing in this thread that there offense was bad and had no “Irvin”. Simms, Bavaro and Morris led the way on offense and they were pretty good.

the giants gave up 236 points and 4757 yards.
The Cowboys gave up 243 points and 3931 yards.

You know what issue with the defense was? Just low the Cowboys in 93 without emmitt. They just got back LT before the season started and it took him a few weeks to get into shape...(kind of like Strahan in 07)

they gave up 31 points and a bunch of yards in week 1 at Dallas when lt was famously winded and sick from being out of shape.

they gave up 3 points in 8 quarters in the nfc playoffs to Bill Walsh and Joe Gibbs offense. I’d say that is how you measure them.

 

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[OmerV]

Time for a change of pace thread for some fun.

If the following great teams from the NFC East Played one another in a round robin tournament how would the finish from top to bottom.

1986 NY Giants - Overall Record 14-2- offense led by Sims , Morris , Bavaro / Defense led by LT , Martin , Marshall, Carson this scary defense wreaked havoc and dominated. The Giants Offense was blue collar like and averaged 23.2 PPG which ranked 8th. There Defense gave up 14.8 ppg which ranked 2nd

1991- Washington Commanders - Overall Record 14-2 Offense was explosive 30.3 ppg for number 1 ranking while the defense ranked 2nd only giving up 14.0 ppg - offense was led by Rypien , Clark, Monk , Byner & the Hogs. Defense Also Loaded with Mann , Marshall, Millen , Green and Collins

1992 Dallas Cowboys - 13-3 Overall Record Offense was ranked 2nd averaging 15.6 ppg while the defense gave up 15.2 ppg good for the 5th spot . Offense featured the triplets, The great wall, novacek / The defense was led by Haley , Maryland, Norton

2017 Philadelphia Eagles 13-3 Overall Record they scored 28.6 ppg good for 3rd best and the defense gave up 18.4 ppg good for 4th offense featured foles, blount, ertz , jeffrey - while the defense featured Cox, Jenkins Darby and Grahem

Who You Got ? How would they Finish And Why

You are showing the Cowboy offense averaging 15.6 ppg. Obviouisly that's not right.

 

[plasticman]

joe Morris rushed for 1500 yards, as a team they rushed for 2245 yards. They had a total of 5378 yards.

the 92 Cowboys
Emmitt rushed for 1713 and the team rushed for 2121 yards. Total yards for the team was 5606.

those numbers seem pretty even especially when I keep seeing in this thread that there offense was bad and had no “Irvin”. Simms, Bavaro and Morris led the way on offense and they were pretty good.

the giants gave up 236 points and 4757 yards.
The Cowboys gave up 243 points and 3931 yards.

You know what issue with the defense was? Just low the Cowboys in 93 without emmitt. They just got back LT before the season started and it took him a few weeks to get into shape...(kind of like Strahan in 07)

they gave up 31 points and a bunch of yards in week 1 at Dallas when lt was famously winded and sick from being out of shape.

they gave up 3 points in 8 quarters in the nfc playoffs to Bill Walsh and Joe Gibbs offense. I’d say that is how you measure them.

You can't compare specific numbers to teams in different years. The rules may be different, the sophistication, the size and athleticism, etc. Last season's National College Champion would beat the pants off those fat boys running around the NFL in the 1940's, for example.

In 1979, the NFL created most of the rules relating to QB safety. In 1971, the year the Cowboys won Super Bowl 6, there was no such thing as "in the grasp" or "helmet to helmet". "Roughing the passer" occurred when you hit the QB after the ball was in the air or after the whistle blew.

I saw plays where one defender held the QB while the other put a hit on him. I saw QB's slammed face first into the turf. This was legal so we should all think about this when we look at the old statistics prior to the 80's. They continued to change the rules for the sake of making the game more exciting by giving more advantages in the passing game like when DB's can touch the receivers, "defenseless player", etc.

When comparing teams from different years, the only fair way is to compare their level of dominance to other teams in that particular season. Statistically, the Cowboys dominated their seasons more than the Giants dominated their season.

 

[MikeB80]

You can't compare specific numbers to teams in different years. The rules may be different, the sophistication, the size and athleticism, etc. Last season's National College Champion would beat the pants off those fat boys running around the NFL in the 1940's, for example.

In 1979, the NFL created most of the rules relating to QB safety. In 1971, the year the Cowboys won Super Bowl 6, there was no such thing as "in the grasp" or "helmet to helmet". "Roughing the passer" occurred when you hit the QB after the ball was in the air or after the whistle blew.

I saw plays where one defender held the QB while the other put a hit on him. I saw QB's slammed face first into the turf. This was legal so we should all think about this when we look at the old statistics prior to the 80's. They continued to change the rules for the sake of making the game more exciting by giving more advantages in the passing game like when DB's can touch the receivers, "defenseless player", etc.

When comparing teams from different years, the only fair way is to compare their level of dominance to other teams in that particular season. Statistically, the Cowboys dominated their seasons more than the Giants dominated their season.

Well I’m confused you used statistics to say Dallas was better and here you are doing it again.

the 86 giants won more games than the Cowboys.
They held Joe Montana’s 49ers to 3 points in the divisional round and shut out Joe Gibbs Commanders in the championship game...

what’s more dominant than holding two of the greatest offensive coaches in the history of the league to a combined 3 points in two games?

Also what you mentioned above about the changes in the games from the 80’s ( btw I know this and don’t need a lesson on it) should mean the giants offense was bad, yet it was very similar to the 92 Cowboys.

So if the giants put up similar offensive numbers in a rougher defensive oriented league isn’t that a case for the giants?

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Well I’m confused you used statistics to say Dallas was better and here you are doing it again.

the 86 giants won more games than the Cowboys.
They held Joe Montana’s 49ers to 3 points in the divisional round and shut out Joe Gibbs Commanders in the championship game...

what’s more dominant than holding two of the greatest offensive coaches in the history of the league to a combined 3 points in two games?

Also what you mentioned above about the changes in the games from the 80’s ( btw I know this and don’t need a lesson on it) should mean the giants offense was bad, yet it was very similar to the 92 Cowboys.

So if the giants put up similar offensive numbers in a rougher defensive oriented league isn’t that a case for the giants?

Doesn't sound at all like a Giants fan here

 

[cowboy_ron]

The 92 Cowboys not just in the NFCE but the strongest and deepest super bowl team ever.

 

[Califan007]

The 91 cowboys beat wash in wash, so am sure 92 cowboys could beat them.

Didn't the 92 Commanders beat the 92 Cowboys?...And the 91 Commanders were light years better than the 92 Commanders.

I don’t think using a regular season win is the correct way to measure something like this. NFC East rivalry games were always up for grabs regardless of records or even rosters sometimes.