What NFC East rival team concerns you the most:

[INCowboysFan]

What NFC East rival foe concerns you the most:

1) Washington FT:
They may have the best HC in the division, imo. but their biggest issues is gonna be at QB, Fitz magic is scrappy but he’ll be hot one streak and be erratic & mistake prone in other streaks.

It helps with Antonio Gibson run game, and having Terry McLaurin and Chris Samuels at WR, and they have probably the best OL coach in NFL. They are gradually building one of the better young defenses in NFL starting with their loaded No. 1 pick invested DL, per Chase Young.
Only in their secondary is where I still think they are very iffy and vulnerable.
Along with Denver, i thought they truly miss out on a rich QB class and should've traded to get up
for Mac Jones, imo.

2) NYGiants
If Barkley makes an AP like full recovery from an ACL tear, and anything close to his explosive self, he instantly makes them a threat again, we’ve had our share of issues vs Saquan.

QB Daniel Jones with his added WR weaponry,(Golladay, Toney) could make them tougher to have to deal with ..vs Fitz-Magic in Wash. But Daniels still takes a lot of sacks, will make critical mistakes in critical stretches, still have a suspect OL and even more suspect OC.

Besides L. Williams, who are their impact defensive players ?
and could their D” give our offense problems ? they could have a solid secondary in Logan, Bradberry and McKinney; but what about the overall front seven ?

3) Philly Eagles: -worth repeatin’ .. .. i dunno anything about their new HC, or if he truly believes in a run game or not, but i'm expecting Hurts is gonna be asked to carry the load, and end up being further exposed this year.
i'm expecting Iggles to place the offense and load on Hurts back, and it will come back to sting them.

Will rookie WR Devontae Smith be that much of a Justin Jefferson type instant impact to their offense with Hurts at the steering wheel ?

Defensively they added aging vet Ryan Kerrigan who could even start at one point, but otherwise i dunno if i have seen anything they have upgraded on defense in offseason that has impressed or worries me on facing them.
i feel If you can control Hurts’ run skills and blast and punish him under duress in pass game, I think we can handle and make him a nonfactor. He’ll have to prove he is well and beyond his rookie-ness now.

And what’s the state of their problematic OL now ? they added a player (center) and have both OTs returning from injury.

Not super concerned about Barkley if our D plays more like it did in 2018 and 2019. If 4 games against us he's had 2 big runs (a 68 and 59 yd). Other than that he avgs about 3.1 ypc against us.

I think Washington is the biggest challenge this year.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Washington QBs played in 2020

Ryan Finley
Nate Sudfeld
Ben Dinucci
Nick Mullens
Andy Dalton
Carson Wentz
Big Ben

That's their wins

Gave up 30 points in losses to
Brady
Lamar
Murray
Stafford
Goff
Mayfield

Next year they play
Brady
Herbert
Dak
Allen
Mahomes
Russ
Matty Ice

I think people are going to be surprised when they realize they're not the 85 Bears

 

[sunalsorises]

Honestly, the Cowboys concern me the most. I don’t care what the other NFC east teams do. As long as Dallas takes care of business then it doesn’t matter what they do. I’m concerned Dallas isn’t going to be able to take care of business.

 

[ESisback]

And burning Commanders shirts they make great fire starters

If people didn’t fuss so much about nicknames, I’d light the match!

 

[quickccc]

Philly, they don't bother me so much, but they can be a thorn in the butt and play spoiler. I am not sold on Hurts as the QB, they added a WR, but can Hurts get him the ball consistently. The only thing they really have going for them is their front 7 on defense. We have the players to offset that easily.

NYG, their defense actually played solid, and I think they are ahead of the WFT defense. However we also have a strong offense to counter their defense. I like out O against their D, better that our D against their O, however, their O is shaky. Everyone wants to slobber over Barkley still. And yes he needs to be a concern. However in the past he never really hurt us, except on some long plays. He never gets the 4 and 5 year runs consistently. He hurt us more in the pass game at times. However being injured last season who knows how he would have gouged our run defense. Jones is Jones at QB, pressure him and they have nothing even with Barkley.

WFT, it all depends on Fitz, but I am not concerned with him as much either, again pressure him. Just cover McLaurin and Samuals. Their defense was not as strong as many think, but they could be better and should be better this year. Still a force to deal with. If our O stays healthy we still can score points. As their D gave up points in other games last year. They only looked like the old steel curtain against our injury depleted offense with 3rd and 4th team guys.

I really don't fear any of them, yet I fear all of them. Division rivals, throw out the records. I fear them because we have nothing if we have injuries again. I do not fear them as much if we stay healthy.

i thought Barkley has had big longs vs us that were somehow twarted at the end by either Chido or Heath, but what is more scary to a Defense .. breaking the huge long run .. or 4-5 yards ??
to me, not only is it the big splash long runs (as when healthy he was easily the most dangerous breakaway RB in entire NFL) but Saquan is also very slippery when it comes to breaking tackles,
with defenders just falling off his legs, so very difficult to corral in open field.

i'll never forget one of John Madden's familiar quotes: " There are two things a Defense fears the most: ..1) Speed ..and 2) A running QB.... "

 

[ESisback]

Washington QBs played in 2020

Ryan Finley
Nate Sudfeld
Ben Dinucci
Nick Mullens
Andy Dalton
Carson Wentz
Big Ben

That's their wins

Gave up 30 points in losses to
Brady
Lamar
Murray
Stafford
Goff
Mayfield

Next year they play
Brady
Herbert
Dak
Allen
Mahomes
Russ
Matty Ice

I think people are going to be surprised when they realize they're not the 85 Bears

Good point! Well done sir!

 

[AsthmaField]

I view both WFT and NY as about the same. I think either will be capable of winning the division if Dallas doesn’t play good football.

Philly I view as less of a threat.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

For additional context, the 2019 Cowboys gave up fewer points than the 2020 WFT.

 

[MikeB80]

Ron Rivera has three winning seasons. Daniel Jones had 11 TD. They have below average OL at every position. Fritz has never made the playoffs and he's 38. They all have serious warts. So does Dallas

you are obsessed with this Jones 11 TD thing.

In Dak Prescott’s second season when Zeke was suspended for that six game stretch Dak threw 5 Td’s and 7 Interceptions and the team was dreadful. The chargers openly mocked Dak and laughed at him after the game on thanksgiving (just like Buffalo 2 years later)

Well Jones had a new offense, no offseason (Just like Dallas excuse on defense) lost both of their top running backs and his left tackle opted out forcing a rookie left tackle who didn’t understand the way columbo was teaching technique, so much so that columbo was fired for it.

so Dak without Zeke and Tyron, 5 td’s and 7 interceptions.....all garret’s fault.

Daniel Jones without solder and Barkley in a new offense 11 td’s...all Jones fault. I guess this means Jones sucks from what you keep saying.

interesting how I don’t remember that energy around Dak?

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

you are obsessed with this Jones 11 TD thing.

In Dak Prescott’s second season when Zeke was suspended for that six game stretch Dak threw 5 Td’s and 7 Interceptions and the team was dreadful. The chargers openly mocked Dak and laughed at him after the game on thanksgiving (just like Buffalo 2 years later)

Well Jones had a new offense, no offseason (Just like Dallas excuse on defense) lost both of their top running backs and his left tackle opted out forcing a rookie left tackle who didn’t understand the way columbo was teaching technique, so much so that columbo was fired for it.

so Dak without Zeke and Tyron, 5 td’s and 7 interceptions.....all garret’s fault.

Daniel Jones without solder and Barkley in a new offense 11 td’s...all Jones fault. I guess this means Jones sucks from what you keep saying.

interesting how I don’t remember that energy around Dak?

Jones sucks. Dak had 28 TDs that season so your equivalence is false. Deal with it

 

[MikeB80]

Jones sucks. Deal with it

lol

Dak was every bit as bad in the same situation in his second year. Deal with it.

 

[Dre11]

What NFC East rival foe concerns you the most:

1) Washington FT:
They may have the best HC in the division, imo. but their biggest issues is gonna be at QB, Fitz magic is scrappy but he’ll be hot one streak and be erratic & mistake prone in other streaks.

It helps with Antonio Gibson run game, and having Terry McLaurin and Chris Samuels at WR, and they have probably the best OL coach in NFL. They are gradually building one of the better young defenses in NFL starting with their loaded No. 1 pick invested DL, per Chase Young.
Only in their secondary is where I still think they are very iffy and vulnerable.
Along with Denver, i thought they truly miss out on a rich QB class and should've traded to get up
for Mac Jones, imo.

2) NYGiants
If Barkley makes an AP like full recovery from an ACL tear, and anything close to his explosive self, he instantly makes them a threat again, we’ve had our share of issues vs Saquan.

QB Daniel Jones with his added WR weaponry,(Golladay, Toney) could make them tougher to have to deal with ..vs Fitz-Magic in Wash. But Daniels still takes a lot of sacks, will make critical mistakes in critical stretches, still have a suspect OL and even more suspect OC.

Besides L. Williams, who are their impact defensive players ?
and could their D” give our offense problems ? they could have a solid secondary in Logan, Bradberry and McKinney; but what about the overall front seven ?

3) Philly Eagles: -worth repeatin’ .. .. i dunno anything about their new HC, or if he truly believes in a run game or not, but i'm expecting Hurts is gonna be asked to carry the load, and end up being further exposed this year.
i'm expecting Iggles to place the offense and load on Hurts back, and it will come back to sting them.

Will rookie WR Devontae Smith be that much of a Justin Jefferson type instant impact to their offense with Hurts at the steering wheel ?

Defensively they added aging vet Ryan Kerrigan who could even start at one point, but otherwise i dunno if i have seen anything they have upgraded on defense in offseason that has impressed or worries me on facing them.
i feel If you can control Hurts’ run skills and blast and punish him under duress in pass game, I think we can handle and make him a nonfactor. He’ll have to prove he is well and beyond his rookie-ness now.

And what’s the state of their problematic OL now ? they added a player (center) and have both OTs returning from injury.

none if we're healthy . Again I don't see the infatuation with WFT, their defense is being hailed as this great thing, yet they only had success as a unit vs bad qbs and offenses in 2020.
When they face a good qb and offense, the give up almost 30 points to all of them and lose. If we're healthy, I'm not concern at all. As far as coach, Ron Rivera has 3 winning seasons out of 10. He hasn't won over 7 games in 7 of the 10 seasons.

 

[Dre11]

As it is every season one can throw out the W-L records with the NFCE matchups.

Rarely a mud stomping.

except when we play the WFT. we have dominated them over the years and recently

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

lol

Dak was every bit as bad in the same situation in his second year. Deal with it.

28 > 11

 

[MikeB80]

28 > 11

ha you are leaving out specifics.

that's what you do though so I applaud the consistency.

 

[Dre11]

WFT

That front 7 can give our Offense trouble and our Offense is our strength.

yet they lost to every good QB they faced 2020

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

ha you are leaving out specifics.

that's what you do though so I applaud the consistency.

Yeah you should. You think 11 = 28 so I applaud your soon to be 2nd grade graduation. FYI everyone thinks DJ sucks

 

[john van brocklin]

What NFC East rival foe concerns you the most:

1) Washington FT:
They may have the best HC in the division, imo. but their biggest issues is gonna be at QB, Fitz magic is scrappy but he’ll be hot one streak and be erratic & mistake prone in other streaks.

It helps with Antonio Gibson run game, and having Terry McLaurin and Chris Samuels at WR, and they have probably the best OL coach in NFL. They are gradually building one of the better young defenses in NFL starting with their loaded No. 1 pick invested DL, per Chase Young.
Only in their secondary is where I still think they are very iffy and vulnerable.
Along with Denver, i thought they truly miss out on a rich QB class and should've traded to get up
for Mac Jones, imo.

2) NYGiants
If Barkley makes an AP like full recovery from an ACL tear, and anything close to his explosive self, he instantly makes them a threat again, we’ve had our share of issues vs Saquan.

QB Daniel Jones with his added WR weaponry,(Golladay, Toney) could make them tougher to have to deal with ..vs Fitz-Magic in Wash. But Daniels still takes a lot of sacks, will make critical mistakes in critical stretches, still have a suspect OL and even more suspect OC.

Besides L. Williams, who are their impact defensive players ?
and could their D” give our offense problems ? they could have a solid secondary in Logan, Bradberry and McKinney; but what about the overall front seven ?

3) Philly Eagles: -worth repeatin’ .. .. i dunno anything about their new HC, or if he truly believes in a run game or not, but i'm expecting Hurts is gonna be asked to carry the load, and end up being further exposed this year.
i'm expecting Iggles to place the offense and load on Hurts back, and it will come back to sting them.

Will rookie WR Devontae Smith be that much of a Justin Jefferson type instant impact to their offense with Hurts at the steering wheel ?

Defensively they added aging vet Ryan Kerrigan who could even start at one point, but otherwise i dunno if i have seen anything they have upgraded on defense in offseason that has impressed or worries me on facing them.
i feel If you can control Hurts’ run skills and blast and punish him under duress in pass game, I think we can handle and make him a nonfactor. He’ll have to prove he is well and beyond his rookie-ness now.

And what’s the state of their problematic OL now ? they added a player (center) and have both OTs returning from injury.

We just need to take care of business
And let our rivals worry about us!

 

[Dre11]

Washington QBs played in 2020

Ryan Finley
Nate Sudfeld
Ben Dinucci
Nick Mullens
Andy Dalton
Carson Wentz
Big Ben

That's their wins

Gave up 30 points in losses to
Brady
Lamar
Murray
Stafford
Goff
Mayfield

Next year they play
Brady
Herbert
Dak
Allen
Mahomes
Russ
Matty Ice

I think people are going to be surprised when they realize they're not the 85 Bears

Man I've been saying this on this board the last month. their defense will have a rude awakening. they're not that good.

 

[MikeB80]

except when we play the WFT. we have dominated them over the years and recently

that ended though when the organization got into all kinds of trouble and handed over football issues to Ron Rivera. He is the best coach in the division and a great defensive mind.

the days of hanging 30+ on them are probably over until Rivera leaves.

rivera taking over Washington is like Parcells taking over Dallas in 03 in a sense. They kind of already did that with Gibbs but it feels different this though.

I don’t see Washington winning the division this season for the simple fact that no one ever repeats in the east. It’s been since 03-04 when Philly did.

I imagine they are in the wild card hunt though unless Fitzpatrick is just terrible.