Dak gets another Top 5 ranking

[DeaconMoss]

I’ll ask again. Provide any noted opinion from any platform that supports your opinion.

You might begin looking at Washington sites and or media.

@Diehardblues where did you go?
https://thelandryhat.com/2020/02/16/dallas-cowboys-nfl-com-rank-dak-prescott-2019/

 

[Captain-Crash]

yeah, I was on pace to win the lottery. I got the first number then I was taken out by bad luck.

 

[Captain-Crash]

@Diehardblues where did you go?
https://thelandryhat.com/2020/02/16/dallas-cowboys-nfl-com-rank-dak-prescott-2019/

He in his Garrett man cave.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Dak vs Cousins? Who knows. If the Cowboys were to play the Vikings 17 times this year, my guess is that the Cowboys would win 9 and lose 8. Dak and Cousins would have basically the same average yards per game passing. Dak would have more yards rushing.

The games would be won on who makes the splash plays and who shows up on 3rd down and who plays big in the red zone.

 

[DeaconMoss]

what did Jimmy say about Dak?
Read my signature. lol.

"Jimmy Johnson: Cowboys QB Dak 'Can't Carry A Team' To Super Bowl. ... I like Dak,'' said Johnson, speaking to Colin Cowherd on FSI. "I think he can win you a championship if he has great players around him. I don't think Dak can carry a football team if he doesn't have great players around him."


When's top 5 going to beat somebody in a throwing contest? Garrett's still waiting.

Actually get a lead by throwing the football to open WR's against base D in the first half?
I wish Top 5 stat guy played the first half.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Did you even read what I posted? Let me repeat:

• There is a discount on garbage time, or a time where the score is out of reach near the end of the game.

The 4th quarter is DISCOUNTED, meaning it's emphasized LESS. Why do you continue to insist a 4th quarter comeback quarterback gets an advantage over one that doesn't have to come back?

It doesn't.

But I do agree, it's just stats, neither one is head and shoulders above the other as far as numbers go, I have no problem saying they're at least comparable, though I do think Dak is the better overall quarterback....

I appreciate you at least being reasonable about it instead of just blindly following a narrative.

 

[DeaconMoss]

He in his Garrett man cave.

Hes in the lab trying to cook up some other reasons why Dak deserves to get paid 2.5 million per game and lead us to 8-8 and miss the playoffs.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Kirk Cousins has thrown for 4,300 yards one time. He has thrown for 30 TDs twice, he has not done both in the same season, and he's been in the league twice as long as Dak lol.

Number of seasons with 4,900 pass yards and 30 passing TDs. Dak 1, Kirk 0.

Shut up with this garbage.

The word AROUND can mean, by definition, in all directions from a center or point of reference.

Okay, you got that? So, the 30 TDs, 4,300 Yards, and 10 INTs, are the "points of reference" where the numbers can then "go in all directions". Therefore, he could throw for a few more or a few less, but on average he is going to give you around those numbers every year, hence, the "point of reference".

Try again.

 

[DeaconMoss]

The word AROUND can mean, by definition, in all directions from a center or point of reference.

Okay, you got that? So, the 30 TDs, 4,300 Yards, and 10 INTs, are the "points of reference" where the numbers can then "go in all directions". Therefore, he could throw for a few more or a few less, but on average he is going to give you around those numbers every year, hence, the "point of reference".

Try again.

Is this correct usage?

Dak is around the top ten to fifteen ranked QB's in the NFL.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

wait, now you moved the target again...you blamed Dak for team failures and not accomplishing and his record and his playoff record. now you say I am blaming Cousins for team failures... I should have known we are using two different measuring sticks....

I was hoping you'd say that! I specifically brought up team failure just so I could catch you up in something.

When you started blaming all the teams lack of success on Cousins performance I knew right then I had you. Because we both know how much you blame everyone else but Dak when I try to point out how his play is part of the reason this team hasn't reach it's goals.

You have got to pick a side. You have got to keep the same energy, Is it the team or the QB? You can't pick and chose to fit your narrative.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Dak is ascending...injury or not....

Dak's stats across all the stats are better than cousins.....no denying that fact.

What stats are you referring to exactly that Dak has better?

You said "across the board" but that is 100% false. So what ones?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Is this correct usage?

Dak is around the top ten to fifteen ranked QB's in the NFL.

Correct! A+!

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Well, yes there is. It's a fact that Cousins has a 67.0 completion percentage, Dak 66.0. Dak's is not better. That's the fact.

Cousins has 5 of 6 seasons with over 4,000 yards passing, 83%, Dak 1 of 4, 25%, (not including last year of course). Dak's is not better. That's the fact.

Cousin's rating for his career is 97.9, Dak's is 97.3. Not a statistically significant difference, obviously, but better is a fact.

So Dak's stats are not ALL better....

You're dropping too many truth bombs. I don't know how they'll handle this.

 

[Future]

The word AROUND can mean, by definition, in all directions from a center or point of reference.

Okay, you got that? So, the 30 TDs, 4,300 Yards, and 10 INTs, are the "points of reference" where the numbers can then "go in all directions". Therefore, he could throw for a few more or a few less, but on average he is going to give you around those numbers every year, hence, the "point of reference".

Try again.

Kirk's "average" over the last 4 years is 4,064. If 300 yards is your idea of "around" then idk. Dak's average per year over his first 4 seasons is 3944. If Kirk Cousins is "around" 4,300 yards, then so is Dak even before last year lol.

It's not a point of reference because it's not real, and it certainly doesn't prove that Cousins is better or whatever.

Just an altogether dumb point.

 

[Future]

Well, yes there is. It's a fact that Cousins has a 67.0 completion percentage, Dak 66.0. Dak's is not better. That's the fact.

Cousins has 5 of 6 seasons with over 4,000 yards passing, 83%, Dak 1 of 4, 25%, (not including last year of course). Dak's is not better. That's the fact.

Cousin's rating for his career is 97.9, Dak's is 97.3. Not a statistically significant difference, obviously, but better is a fact.

So Dak's stats are not ALL better....

One is 28 and ascending one is 33 and already played his best football.

"Not including last year of course" HAHAHAHA LETS JUST GO AHEAD AND IGNORE THE BEST FOOTBALL DAK HAS EVER PLAYED. Take out Kirk's 2016 numbers too then.

 

[Flamma]

I think Dak is in the mix with most of the QBs in this league barring the elite. I think Wilson is better, but that much better to make up for the difference of going up against a better team? No. Rodgers can, Brady can, Mahomes can. I think most of the good QBs in this league are interchangeable. Give them the better team and they'll most likely win.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

No, I saw it, but it's nonsense because it's still false. In the last 4 seasons, Cousins has thrown for 4093, 4298, 3603, 4265.

He's not "around" 4300 and 30. He's not 4300 anything, and he's certainly not giving you 4,300 and 30 - or even around there - every single year. I mean, if we're just ballparking, we can just say Dak is around 5,100 and 35 total TDs because his 16-game pace over the last two seasons (21 games).

Why are you only using the last 4 years? Because if you said the last 5 years it would include a 4,900 yard year, so you just want to leave that one out like it didn't happen huh?

So, please tell me how 4,100, 4,300, 4,300, 3,600, and 4,900 (all rounded because easier on the eyes) does not equal around 4,300 when you average it out?

Actually, you can't say that about Dak, because Dak has never reached those numbers, therefore it's not possible to have those numbers as a reference point. Also, this is not what Kirk Cousins was "on pace" for. These are real numbers and not hypothetical made up numbers, so no, you cannot say that about Dak because it's just flat out false.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Kirk's "average" over the last 4 years is 4,064. If 300 yards is your idea of "around" then idk. Dak's average per year over his first 4 seasons is 3944. If Kirk Cousins is "around" 4,300 yards, then so is Dak even before last year lol.

It's not a point of reference because it's not real, and it certainly doesn't prove that Cousins is better or whatever.

Just an altogether dumb point.

Why are you only using the last 4 years? Why are you purposely leaving at a 4,900 yard year by Cousins? I mean, I know why, but I just want to see how you try to explain leaving it out.

 

[Future]

Why are you only using the last 4 years? Why are you purposely leaving at a 4,900 yard year by Cousins? I mean, I know why, but I just want to see how you try to explain leaving it out.

Because Dak has only played 4 seasons, because it was 5 years ago, because it's the outlier. I could go on. If you want to include that one, then you have to extrapolate the numbers that Dak had this season to give them both 5 seasons. You don't want to do that.

It's an entirely irrelevant season when comparing it to Dak.

 

[Future]

Why are you only using the last 4 years? Because if you said the last 5 years it would include a 4,900 yard year, so you just want to leave that one out like it didn't happen huh?

So, please tell me how 4,100, 4,300, 4,300, 3,600, and 4,900 (all rounded because easier on the eyes) does not equal around 4,300 when you average it out?

Actually, you can't say that about Dak, because Dak has never reached those numbers, therefore it's not possible to have those numbers as a reference point. Also, this is not what Kirk Cousins was "on pace" for. These are real numbers and not hypothetical made up numbers, so no, you cannot say that about Dak because it's just flat out false.

KIRK HASN'T REACHED THOSE NUMBERS EITHER LMAO

He has literally never had a 4300 yard, 30 TD, 10 INT season.