Still hard for Cowboys to win with Jones style ownership

[TwoCentPlain]

Sorry about that.

No problem. We aren’t seeing many 40-burgers from $40M Dak and Co. And the defense will get the blame.

 

[Brax]

No problem. We aren’t seeing many 40-burgers from $40M Dak and Co. And the defense will get the blame.

I think the O will be good but even if the D gives up 17 and it’s a L there will other excuses to cover the lack of O production, it’s a recurring theme in Dallas.

 

[Big_D]

Just funny people still blaming Romo while this clown traded 3 picks for Roy Williams, hired the softest coaches he can find, drafted like garbage, didn’t build a line because Romo was so mobile. Those words are straight from the horses mouth! That team in 2007 after parcells left could’ve went on a quality run for a few years if the owner wasn’t a complete dumbazz. But every single decision after BP was baffling and ridiculous just as you’d expect. So in 3 years time they fizzled to complete crap! lol He’s a crap GM and owner. Time doesn’t lie. And his team still chokes to this day!

 

[john van brocklin]

He has what he wants. He wants to pal around with his players and be liked and have them laugh at his stupid sayings. he wants to be a celebrity.

His goal is not to win a SB. He wants America's team to be the most profitable, highest profile and most valuable sports franchise in the world. That's what he was inducted for, not on the field accomplishment.

There is only one owner of any pro sports team on camera in every game they play and that is required.

Well said

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Yep

As much as Jethro should be credited for hiring Jimmy and the culture he created, he should be bashed for everything since not following that model.

his ego got in the way and has been getting on the way ever since

 

[JW82]

Hard? Based on history, it's impossible.

 

[ESisback]

And the mean girl popping in to whine and moan about a familiar subject. Go back to yer hair-coloring job, chap!

Is that some sort of contrived British wordplay?

 

[SSoup]

Totally incorrect.

It was Troy who first called out the lack of discipline under Switzer alarming us something could be wrong.

Uh, Troy 100% went around vouching for Switzer before he turned on him. He liked the hiring. He went around and talked him up to his teammates and the media. He's said as much over the years. It wasn't until after he vouched for him to everybody when he had to actually work with him again that he realized Switzer was bad now actually.

Troy: "I thought it was a great hire. I really did. The Barry Switzer that I played for at Oklahoma was tough. He was demanding. I thought the players would love him, would love his style. And Barry's got a terrific resume. He's been a great football coach for a long time."

He's also admitted that Jerry ran the hiring by him before he made it, so he didn't just react after the fact. He was in on the decision. His willingness to help Jerry sell Switzer to everybody helped enable the hiring.

And in case you're worried he might've been smart and learned something from that and decided he'd just step back and not touch the topic of coaches anymore after he got burned the last time, don't worry. Because he got even more involved by pushing for us to fire the guy who fixed Switzer's mess, leading to our hiring the worst coach in franchise history.

Loved Troy as a player. But the man has a bad record when it comes to his inclinations on coaching staff stuff, scheme stuff, and personnel stuff. It's just funny that he thinks Jerry's way of running things is bad now, when he's a famous example of players who were happy to take advantage of the way Jerry runs things. Not so very long ago, he loved that Jerry had an open door for players to walk in and go over people's heads to conspire with the owner to meddle in coaching staff stuff or personnel stuff. He used (if not abused) Jerry's open-door policy his fair share.

It's just funny, is all, for him now to be like, "Hey you guys, I think the way Jerry runs things and his decision-making process might be bad actually. Has anyone else noticed this?" When he was standing next to Jerry personally signing off on and enabling a handful of horrific moves--and occasionally helping initiate them--during our descent from 1994 to 2000.

 

[plymkr]

As fans, we hope they get lucky. Luck got us Romo and Prescott or this could be a lot worse. Even the Romorooters have to admit, he did keep it interesting.

But what are we going to do? Find another team? I don't see that.

And I recall my pleasant surprises at the 2014 and 2016 seasons when I was expecting a losing season and they ended up with the best record.

Here's the fly in the ointment for many here, history. Good or bad, it clouds everything in a year to year league with few repeating divisions winners and not one in the East since 2004.

Those 20 winning seasons in a row, 8 trips and 5 rings are ancient history and you need to let that go. 8-8. followed by a 6-10, let that go too. Clean the slate every year and manage your expectations. It really is a better way to approach the season.

Keeping count on the last trip to the SB or even the NFCCG, does that really lend itself to the word the OP used, "hope". Don't pay disappointment forward, that doesn't work. That doesn't prepare us for anything and surely doesn't soften disappointment.

Actually sometimes I wish we didn't luck into Romo and Prescott. I'm not sure of the number off the top of my head but the win loss records the last 25 years without Prescott or Romo is astounding. 2015 and 2020 is life without Romo and Prescott. Imagine what would happen with 25 seasons of 2020 results. Maybe the Cowboys would not be the #1 rated sports team and not generate the money it does.

When Prescott leaves get ready for 4-12 and 3-13 type seasons. Cuz that's our genius GMs football savvy.

You know we are one of three teams to not make a Championship game in 25 years. Us, WFT and Detroit. Sad.

 

[Whyjerry]

Yep, this is our lot as Cowboys fans
We either make the best of it or jump ship.
Looks like Stephen is not going to be much better.
Sigh.......

I think Stephen is cheaper than Jerry with a fraction of the charm. Stephen will be worse.

 

[RS12]

Lol! Hard? I think you mean impossible. A quarter century is a long time. The Jones family death grip continues.

 

[Blast From The Past]

Because without Jerry Dak never would have happened

Thought Jerry wanted Paxton in that draft and settled for Dak

 

[Risen Star]

Is it still hard to win with him? I haven't noticed.

 

[Loso86]

Thats the problem. Jerry has hired idiot coaches like Wade and Garrett to run their football teams and then drafts and resigns dopes like Zeke and Jaylon.

Wade wasn't an idiot and zeke isn't a dope. Yoi really can't put smith and zeke in the same sentence. Meanwhile you also can't mention those names and not mention Parcells, JJ etc

 

[Loso86]

There's a reason why Chick-fil-A gives stupendous service and has lines out the parking lot (especially during the Pandemic), when Taco Bell, Wendy's and McDonald's have empty parking lots.

It has to do with the tone set at the TOP, which filters down and throughout the chain. Truett Cathy has created a culture where even when people should be saving, they're gladly spending their money and enduring long lines to purchase his product.

Chick-fil-A's service is so far and above other restaurants', that even when they make mistakes with my order, I end up apologizing to them.

Individual managers and employees (or coaches and players) aren't the ones who set the culture for an organization. The corporate headquarters does that.

Jerry Jones is the corporate headquarters, so to speak. He is the owner, the CEO and his tone filters down through the entire organization.

There's a reason we haven't sniffed a Super Bowl in 25 years, and it's not the coaches not coaching and the players not playing. Rather, it's the owner who can't identify a coach who can coach and identify players who can transcend the culture and play DESPITE the owner - something that is the responsibility of Jerry, not the players, even though they have their individual parts to play.

25 years of futility. Coaches have come and gone. Players have come and gone. Guess who has been here throughout those 25 years?

Hey man I hear you guys but regardless what you all say he is the SAME guy who hired and brought guys in for 3 SB give JJ all the credit if you want but JJ was the owner and GM

 

[Loso86]

Bad coaches and bad players are rarely successful.

What about the good ones?

 

[Loso86]

doesnt this start with the owner and GM doing their job? They go hand in hand. If you’re a poorly run organization, problems run deeper than coaching!

I agree but it's all ONE oiled machine THEY all seserve blame not just Jones is all I'm saying

 

[Risen Star]

Because without Jerry Dak never would have happened

And that's not even the worst thing he's done.

 

[Risen Star]

I love how people pretend things will change with Stephen.

Stephen Jones is the Director of Personnel for the Dallas Cowboys. Has been for decades now. He is equally as unqualified and incompetent in that job as his dad is at his. If he was truly this rational voice of reason he would never have taken the position or at the very least resigned from it within the first decade of failure. Hey, Dad. I suck at this. I'll just stick with being a team executive. I'm not cut out for football operations.

Is he still there? Does he look unhappy? He looks like a fat version of his father to me. He will gladly slide into that GM chair when the time comes and pretend just like his daddy did.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

 

[Corso]

I love how people pretend things will change with Stephen.

Stephen Jones is the Director of Personnel for the Dallas Cowboys. Has been for decades now. He is equally as unqualified and incompetent in that job as his dad is at his. If he was truly this rational voice of reason he would never have taken the position or at the very least resigned from it within the first decade of failure. Hey, Dad. I suck at this. I'll just stick with being a team executive. I'm not cut out for football operations.

Is he still there? Does he look unhappy? He looks like a fat version of his father to me. He will gladly slide into that GM chair when the time comes and pretend just like his daddy did.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

He did and then Jerry said: