Josh Allen extended by Buffalo

[MountaineerCowboy]

Imagine being lame enough to declare you "won" a debate on the internet lol...some of these guys are weirdos man I can't call it.

Imagine losing that debate to the person you describe as "lame" .... Yikes....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And your consistent at being an emotional mess that can't get out of their feels long enough to prove anything.

That wasn't emotional i'm just keeping it 100. All jokes aside, I do think you suck at this. I get it. You're trying to be noticed. You crave attention. This is the highlight of your life right now. Not even trying to insult you but this is just how you come across. If you want credit for something you're consistent...i'll give you that.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Imagine losing that debate to the person you describe as "lame" .... Yikes....

I don't even know if i'd care but I guess its moot because you aren't capable of beating anything but what's in between your legs......

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

That wasn't emotional i'm just keeping it 100. All jokes aside, I do think you suck at this. I get it. You're trying to be noticed. You crave attention. This is the highlight of your life right now. Not even trying to insult you but this is just how you come across. If you want credit for something you're consistent...i'll give you that.

Please... you and your buds only exist to me on a message board.

Also, if I'm so bad at this, then why are you always getting schooled by me?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Why? Would it make you feel better if you was getting constantly schooled by an older gentleman? Is your ego hurt?

I don't get it....is it disrespectful to ask a man his age? What's the issue?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I don't even know if i'd care but I guess its moot because you aren't capable of beating anything but what's in between your legs......

You care. Because you're obsessed with me. I don't know you think about me, me or Dak.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Please... you and your buds only exist to me on a message board.

Also, if I'm so bad at this, then why are you always getting schooled by me?

I don't know you to "school" anyone. Me and most members on this site are constantly correcting you on your misinformation.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You care. Because you're obsessed with me. I don't know you think about me, me or Dak.

You don't know if I think about me, me or Dak? Huh? What are you trying to say here? That I think about you and Dak? Huh?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I don't know you to "school" anyone. Me and most members on this site are constantly correcting you on your misinformation.

Your feelings and emotions don't count as "correcting" anything.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yet again you resort to the 'you guys' and 'haters' thing simply because I am posting statistical data to support my potion. Again, that does not make me a hater, troll, or you guys but someone like yourself who has their own viewpoint but supports it with data. The fact that stereotyping and name calling is resorted to does not make you morally superior but rather intellectually inferior.

There would be so much less crap within these threads if guys simply said "I may disagree with you but I appreciate the facts/statistics to back up your position". That's called being an adult and I can only speak for myself but I am doing my best to act more like one.

I'm stereotyping you? How so?

And I talk to plenty of members on this site and we disagree but respectfully. But its never misinformation being dropped. You're cherry picking stats and spreading mis information....and you're using solely stats to create a narrative that doesn't exist. So yeah you shouldn't be shocked that you're being regulated to "hater" status. Just like I and others get regulated to being a "lover". It happens.

I know that at the end of the day eyes can be made to be bias much like in eyewitness accounts but statistics and dat (much like video evidence) is unbiased and simply lay out the evidence. Ultimately, we see what we want to see when relying solely on the eyes.

So your EYES can be bias but your stats can't lol? Oh boy.....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Your feelings and emotions don't count as "correcting" anything.

Oh....ok lol.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

You don't know if I think about me, me or Dak? Huh? What are you trying to say here? That I think about you and Dak? Huh?

Basically, here's what stinks for you.

You've dug your heels in so far with Dak, that you've insulted former players and winners of in the Cowboys organization if you thought it somehow made Dak look a little better. You've went there.

When Dak is no longer a Cowboy you're not going to be able to pretend that you're a Cowboys fan all of a sudden. People have seen the things you say. It's always about Dak with you. It's never about the actual team.

It's sad, and I believe that you lash out as a way to vent your frustrating, because you know you're in too deep now. So, you're going to ride it t ill the wheel fall off.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Basically, here's what stinks for you.

You've dug your heels in so far with Dak, that you've insulted former players and winners of in the Cowboys organization if you thought it somehow made Dak look a little better. You've went there.

When Dak is no longer a Cowboy you're not going to be able to pretend that you're a Cowboys fan all of a sudden. People have seen the things you say. It's always about Dak with you. It's never about the actual team.

It's sad, and I believe that you lash out as a way to vent your frustrating, because you know you're in too deep now. So, you're going to ride it t ill the wheel fall off.

 

[AmericanCowboy]

Against the Texans in 2019 Allen was 24 of 46 for a 52.2% Comp % with 264 Yards Passing with 0 TD's and 0 INT's; he also rushed for 92 Yards and caught a 19-yard TD. The Texans won 22-19 in OT after Allen led the Bills into FG range in OT but a penalty forced a punt.....then the Bills defense allowed the Texans to drive for the winning FG.

Yeah, I can see how you call that Allen "self-destructed" in the game.

Against the Ravens Allen was 23 of 37 for a 62.2% Comp % with 206 Yards passing in a defensive oriented game......hardly Allen doing terribly.


As for the playoffs in general, Allen has a record of 2 Wins and 2 Losses and guided the Bills to the AFC Championship game last season. His career playoff stats are as follows: 101 of 166 for a 60.8% Comp % with 1,081 Yards passing along with 5 TD's and 1 INT; he also has 34 Carries for 237 Yards and 1 TD along with 1 Catch for 16 Yards and a TD.

Compare Allen's playoff stats to that of Dak Prescott who has a 1-2 record and is 66 of 103 for a 64.1% Comp % with 794 Yards passing along with 5 TD's and 2 INT's; he also has 10 Carries for 45 Yards and 2 TD's.


So if you are going to say that Allen has not been that great based on playoffs stats then seeing as how he has better stats then Dak for the most part what would you say about Dak?

Well, I actually didn’t mention stats at all. so not sure where you got that.

Allen absolutely self destructed against the Texans- I don’t know if you watched that game, but you should. He also was almost picked off on like 3 straight plays at one point.

Also, I promise you that if the next playoff game he is in that Dak will win if his defense gives up three points.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well, I actually didn’t mention stats at all. so not sure where you got that.

Allen absolutely self destructed against the Texans- I don’t know if you watched that game, but you should. He also was almost picked off on like 3 straight plays at one point.

Also, I promise you that if the next playoff game he is in that Dak will win if his defense gives up three points.

And this is why @USArmyVet argument is flawed because he just uses "stats" to speak......Allen was terrible even worse than the stats show. Dak has never played a playoff game that poorly.

 

[USArmyVet]

So you want me to believe that you watch Josh Allen enough to say that his line was below average? He had a very good line last year btw...I know you tried to downplay it by saying it was "marginally better".......

Bills running game involves Josh Allen as well. A lot of what they do is around him running the football and passing.

Based on stats, here is the Pressure % faced by both Josh Allen and Dak Prescott:

2020: Allen 21.9% Prescott 21.7%

2019: Allen 23.2% Prescott 18.8%

2018: Allen 29.2% Prescott 29.1%



So for the last 3 years Allen has actually faced a higher percentage of defensive pressure on passing downs which does goes toward indicating the quality of offensive line pass blocking ability.

 

[USArmyVet]

In 2020, that was a issue. In 2019? It wasn't.....it doesn't change the fact that the defense was one of the worst defenses we've seen.

The 2020 Dallas defense was in fact one of the worst in team history, we agree on that.

Regarding offensive giveaways, the Dallas offense gave the ball away 18 times in 2019....compared with that of the 2020 Dallas offense wherein they gave the ball away 26 times.

That said I am confused as to your point.

 

[USArmyVet]

Well, I actually didn’t mention stats at all. so not sure where you got that.

Allen absolutely self destructed against the Texans- I don’t know if you watched that game, but you should. He also was almost picked off on like 3 straight plays at one point.

Also, I promise you that if the next playoff game he is in that Dak will win if his defense gives up three points.

2019

vs. Eagles Defense gave up 17 points (ZERO Dallas TD's) Dallas LOST

vs. Patriots Defense gave up 13 points (1 Zeke Rushing TD) Dallas LOST

vs. Saints Defense gave up 12 points (ZERO Dallas TD's) Dallas LOST


While I get you are trying to use the 3 point approach in your example to somehow compare Dak and Allen by insinuating Dak is better, perhaps focus on 3 games in 2019 where the Dallas defense held the opponent to average of 14 points and Dak lost all 3 of those games.

As for the 'almost' threw 3 INT's on 3 plays in a row, that's a what if hypothetical which can be easily said of any QB including Dak so that is irrelevant. You also still didn't prove your 'Allen imploded' claim.

 

[USArmyVet]

I'm stereotyping you? How so?

And I talk to plenty of members on this site and we disagree but respectfully. But its never misinformation being dropped. You're cherry picking stats and spreading mis information....and you're using solely stats to create a narrative that doesn't exist. So yeah you shouldn't be shocked that you're being regulated to "hater" status. Just like I and others get regulated to being a "lover". It happens.


So your EYES can be bias but your stats can't lol? Oh boy.....

I guess you have never dealt with eyewitness testimony before to prove the point that the eyes can be bias.

As for your other statement, you claiming it's misinformation is yet again showing your bias as just because you do not wish to see the stats for what they are does not make it misinformation.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Based on stats, here is the Pressure % faced by both Josh Allen and Dak Prescott:

2020: Allen 21.9% Prescott 21.7%

2019: Allen 23.2% Prescott 18.8%

2018: Allen 29.2% Prescott 29.1%



So for the last 3 years Allen has actually faced a higher percentage of defensive pressure on passing downs which does goes toward indicating the quality of offensive line pass blocking ability.

The stast are nearly identical except one year what are you talking about the last 3 years? In 2 of the last 3 years base don what YOU said...Dak's seen a higher percentage of defensive pressures.....no?