Why We Lost

[blueblood70]

There was no Ineptitude . . . Brady was not comfortable back there . . . He was forced to release the ball quicker then usual . . . And on a few plays the only this g that saved him from being Crushed was a hold . . . You are being too critical and your assessments are out of context.

All you wanna do is complain about his Contract.

Don t worry Lawrence looked Strong Fast and Hungry. . . He is gonna Feast this year

all he does is complain ,thats his issue he thinks we are debating on game show and there's a prize and win loss judge on these threads.,.he has an ego that steers him to debating things hes wrong about. watches footballs with his eyes but not his brain..

 

[kskboys]

no its not i say you are flat wrong, period end of story. Winning what?? is that what you think we are in here for? your debate is off way off and not even worth debating..

Then leave.

This, however, is some funny stuff. You're not even capable of discerning what the discussion is about!!!!!! Comic genius!!!!!!!!!!!! Pretty sure you're purposely trying to be funny, no one is this lame w/ that broken English stuff w/o trying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[AyeAtey]

The defense failed.

 

[TexasHillbilly]

dude that ll you can come up???!!!!

with all that been said has been said from other replies below here but dude get it rest there was pressure not clean picked he got ,moved off his spot many times and the pocket was small..all you can ask for against the best OL , best qb, best set of wrs/te in the game..

seriously this is the SB champions on the road and all some of you do is complain,,that game was better than anyone in America maybe the world had predicted..our kicker basically left 4 points of from board on EASY chip shop XP and kick we lost by two..TB has the quickest reads and quickest release and we were supposed to sack guy, hard to sack..lmao what ridiculous post to start,. whine fest 2.0

we played TB better then the chiefs did , let that sink in same turf and conditions and dak played better then mohomes we forced Tom into mistakes created tos and but OMG we didnt get sacks,,we got pressure shrunk the pockets and moved tom some , its all you can do with this guy and his weapons..

we were supposed to get embarrasses blown out shown how bad we were, umm did that happen..damn some of you need to be throat punched!

I'm not sure about throat punched, lol, but I thought we would lose by 2 td's and we lost by 2 points. KSK was just pointing out that our dline did not get any pressure on Tom. Hard to get pressure when he gets rid of the ball so quickly. That's why he is the GOAT. Sometimes teams are just better than other teams and TB is just better than us right now, especially in the first game of the season. They are tough to beat.

We will get better with the mistakes as the season progresses and we will win.....barring injuries. That will be the key.

 

[kskboys]

Okay I hope you're joking here because this is completely unreasonable. No DE in the game is going to get pressure if the refs are going to allow the 330 pound guy across from him to just bear hug him. I did get a chuckle when Collinsworth was going on and on about how Wirfs was throwing him around and they put up two consecutive replays of Lawrence punking Wirfs.. Reminds me of that time in the game against Pittsburgh last year when he was carrying on about how Zeke missed a hole and they put up a replay with a linebacker standing right in the hole Collinsworth claimed Zeke should have hit. I am starting to think the guys in the truck don't like Collinsworth.. or just enjoy getting a laugh at his expense.

Yes and no. I expect DLaw to put pressure on Brady. He did not. If he's being held, then make it so obvious to the refs that they have to call it.

I don't like excuses. Man up and find a way.

 

[kskboys]

The defense failed.

Miserably.

 

[blueblood70]

Then leave.

This, however, is some funny stuff. You're not even capable of discerning what the discussion is about!!!!!! Comic genius!!!!!!!!!!!! Pretty sure you're purposely trying to be funny, no one is this lame w/ that broken English stuff w/o trying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

right we both know you have issues and are being destroyed in here, no need for me to do it..egomaniacal dung Beatle is what you are and think winning is what this place is..it is not..your posts were wrong the moment you hit post..

 

[Ozone22]

Lawrence was held all night

He wasn’t the only one being held.

 

[Kingofholland]

Brady had a clean pocket all night. I only remember us even hitting him one time.

Yes, there were other reasons, there are always several, but that was the biggie. If you don't pressure Brady, he wins almost every time. Find a way.

Yes it was unbelievable we barely got a hand on him. Dline looks better against the run but did little to disrupt the passing game.

 

[TexasHillbilly]

And in the playoffs when teams had good enough D's to bring pressure, Marino wasn't so great. No QB is.

Don't you want to be the team that can pressure good QB's?

Of course I do but I also want to have a "perfect" marriage. Not gonna happen.

It's just the first game. Lots of work to do on all sides of the ball and in all areas. ST's, O and D.

 

[DrunkWithPower]

I think the defense was a lot better than I expected. My only really big complaint was Gronk's productivity. However, I realize the guy is massive and knows how to play, and even rolling people over him really doesn't help all that much. It just seemed every time they needed a big play he was the guy, and our guys couldn't come up with the stop.

 

[blueblood70]

I'm not sure about throat punched, lol, but I thought we would lose by 2 td's and we lost by 2 points. KSK was just pointing out that our dline did not get any pressure on Tom. Hard to get pressure when he gets rid of the ball so quickly. That's why he is the GOAT. Sometimes teams are just better than other teams and TB is just better than us right now, especially in the first game of the season. They are tough to beat.

We will get better with the mistakes as the season progresses and we will win.....barring injuries. That will be the key.

yet when the coaches break down real film it will show many qb pressures in the stats i watched it the pocket was shrunk all night they moved tom off his psot.no sacks does not mean no pressure, pressure was there, a lot..i saw it but why would a fan, a bad fan at that looking for something to complain about see there was QUARTER BACK PRESSUIRES many of them that will be in the stat sheet..

 

[TexasHillbilly]

Yes it was unbelievable we barely got a hand on him. Dline looks better against the run but did little to disrupt the passing game.

Don't you dare be positive on the forum. It is not allowed!!!

 

[RonnieT24]

Yes and no. I expect DLaw to put pressure on Brady. He did not. If he's being held, then make it so obvious to the refs that they have to call it.

I don't like excuses. Man up and find a way.

Well I would say he could throw up his hands and do the Lebron scream but I swear there were times when Wirfs had both his arms pinned and he could not even do that. It was a poor game overall for the zebras on both sides to be honest. They should have picked up the flag on that facemask they gave us earlier.. but since it was PI it was going to be a first down anyway so even though it was a bad call I thought it was immaterial. The Bucs had more penalty yards but over half their yards were on PIs which would have been completions anyway if they hadn't interfered .. as such those calls really weren't all that impactful. Not NEARLY as impactful as the holding calls on us or the no call against Diggs.

 

[kskboys]

Of course I do but I also want to have a "perfect" marriage. Not gonna happen.

It's just the first game. Lots of work to do on all sides of the ball and in all areas. ST's, O and D.

Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

However, if you want to be a super bowl contender, you must pressure opposing QB's, no excuses.

The fact that Brady does this to most teams is irrelevant. If we want to go to the big dance, we must find a way to get in the faces of good QB's.

 

[camaro69]

Brady had a clean pocket all night. I only remember us even hitting him one time.

Yes, there were other reasons, there are always several, but that was the biggie. If you don't pressure Brady, he wins almost every time. Find a way.

Doesn't matter, Front end helps the back end and vice versa. We have one good CB, Every team for the rest of the season will go after A Brown the guy is a first down or big play waiting to happen,

 

[terra]

yet when the coaches break down real film it will show many qb pressures in the stats i watched it the pocket was shrunk all night they moved tom off his psot.no sacks does not mean no pressure, pressure was there, a lot..i saw it but why would a fan, a bad fan at that looking for something to complain about see there was QUARTER BACK PRESSUIRES many of them that will be in the stat sheet..

More stats that MEAN NOTHING.
We still lost.
The D gave up 31 points.
We got 4 turnovers and STILL LOST.
QB pressures are incredibly subjective; what is a pressure to one QB is not to someone like Brady.

 

[kskboys]

Well I would say he could throw up his hands and do the Lebron scream but I swear there were times when Wirfs had both his arms pinned and he could not even do that. It was a poor game overall for the zebras on both sides to be honest. They should have picked up the flag on that facemask they gave us earlier.. but since it was PI it was going to be a first down anyway so even though it was a bad call I thought it was immaterial. The Bucs had more penalty yards but over half their yards were on PIs which would have been completions anyway if they hadn't interfered .. as such those calls really weren't all that impactful. Not NEARLY as impactful as the holding calls on us or the no call against Diggs.

That is true, but even w/ that DLaw should have been able to get in Brady's face a few times. He didn't.

Refs definitely favored Brady.

 

[shabazz]

Which really means he was unable to get off the blocks. For 20 mil, holding should not stop him from getting pressure.

Exactly right. He was held alright.....held in check

 

[kskboys]

Doesn't matter, Front end helps the back end and vice versa. We have one good CB, Every team for the rest of the season will go after A Brown the guy is a first down or big play waiting to happen,

Yes, it does matter. While they do help each other, the front helps all facets of the D to a much greater degree than any other facet.