If you have Dak below the Top 7, I can't take you seriously

[MountaineerCowboy]

here is the whataboutism you like so much.

what does 1TD, 2 Interception and one in the endzone get you?

and you stand corrected. He didn't have a great game. he had a good game. he led the team on the last drive that won the game. you want to say "not good game"= "bad game", which is not the case.....he may not have thrown a TD since you love that so much. but he had 85% completion rate. all things aside, he completed the passes on that last drive. the critical drive that mattered the most.

What does 400 yards and 3 TDs get you?

P.S. I see you're annoying another posters and getting made a fool of. It's funny.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What are you trying to prove on a football forum? What are you trying to get by trying so hard to convince me Dak is great?

I have never tried to prove Dak is great. that's your take. just because I don't hate him like you do, doesn't mean that I think he is great....you are very misguided child. I just don't hate him like you do. I see the good and the bad....you only want to prove everything he does, all the time, in every game and every throw and every pass and every series and every drive and every quarter and every half is bad and that anything good that comes out of the game is always amari, CD, Zeke, Pollard, the RG, the OL, the coach, fans in section 403 rows 34-45, the janitor, the sun's angle, the opposing team, the opposing coach, the opposing players......anything but Dak...so why? why do you hate him so much.

 

[khiladi]

Well I mean you have changed your stance on why dak sucks like 4000 times since we drafted him. Now its. "well he sucks against zone defense on Sundays in November." Give it up already.

I’ve been saying he sucks again zone for ages. I’ve been saying he’s a one read QB for ages and he profited off man. I’ve been saying, whoopity do for ages, he finally realized he could exploit single man coverage on the outside for ages. I’ve been saying he obfuscates onlookers precisely because he can throw, including the deep ball, when he knows where he is going with it, while everybody was saying he sucks at it.

So no, I won’t give it up, while you don’t give it up telling us about how supposedly he’s been elite for ages and how’s its Zeke’s fault that Dak loses games, while teams are constantly giving him these man looks. I’m not the one saying Zeke’s numbers have dropped significantly against stacked boxes, indicating he’s not doing his job, when I’ve been saying for years, all it indicates is that we are throwing more against them now, which is a FACT.

 

[glimmerman]

In the first 2 games he is for sure in the top 10 category. Not sure where the stats place him. Or which stat they even use that would tell you. He is stepping up and also it’s amazing that he is playing that well coming off of that nasty leg injury and not seeing live action for such a long while.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What does 400 yards and 3 TDs get you?

P.S. I see you're annoying another posters and getting made a fool of. It's funny.

aparantley not a win. right.....

Dak played good. not great. he didn't play bad. that's the point.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

My idea of him playing poorly is completely regarding his salary. You dont pay a game manager what he is getting paid. You pay him to take control. While i also see your point. He has been very accurate this year so far. A win is a win and he got us the win in the 4th. Thats all I am saying

so was he game manager week 1?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I’ve been saying he sucks again zone for ages. I’ve been saying he’s a one read QB for ages and he profited off man. I’ve been saying, whoopity do for ages, he finally realized he could exploit single man coverage on the outside for ages. I’ve been saying he obfuscates onlookers precisely because he can throw, including the deep ball, when he knows where he is going with it, while everybody was saying he sucks at it.

yet, with all that rant....take a look at his passing stats in the past 5 games...I guess you know more about him than NFL defensive coaches who get paid to be defensive coaches and must not have figured this out...wow, you are so smart. why you are not a defensive coordinator is beyond me

and again. you say he sucks against zone....what's your point? you still haven't made a point of your argument.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

aparantley not a win. right.....

Dak played good. not great. he didn't play bad. that's the point.

That's your opinion. I expect better than "good, not great" from my 40 million a year QB.

You can have your standards low but I chose not to. That goes for every player and coach in this organization.

 

[RonnieT24]

0Tds, 1INT, and 1FUM from your QB is what gets teams top 5 draft picks.

He didn't play a good game no matter how you slice it, but other guys stepped up and did great jobs, and that's okay.

Wow this is classic.. Dak passes for 400+ yards in a loss and people fall over themselves to call it "empty stats." Dak passes for 230 yards in a win and it's "other guys carried him..." Yall are as hilarious as you are transparent. It's about winning dude.. Dak committed one turnover which resulted in 3 points for the other team. The fumble was recovered by the Cowboys so basically that was just a sack but nice try. There is no reasonable rationale under which a QB who completes 88% of his passes for what 9? yards per attempt can be construed to have had a bad game. Maybe we have gotten spoiled by all the ridiculous games that we've lost perspective?

When the game was on the line the Cowboys put the ball in Dak's hands and asked him to get them into position to win the game.. He delivered.. in spite of whatever the hell the coaching staff was doing at the end there.. I do wish Dak would have felt empowered enough to go ahead and run another play to get more yards when the coaches were screwing around there. That's the next step in his growth.. the ability and willingness to overrride or cover for the coaching staff when they have a brain fart. Like if we have goal to go at the 2 yard line in the Super Bowl and the coaches send in a pass play to our #5 receiver he will have the cajones to audible into a run with our horse running back.. Unlike .. you know.. those other guys..

 

[khiladi]

I have never tried to prove Dak is great. that's your take. just because I don't hate him like you do, doesn't mean that I think he is great....you are very misguided child. I just don't hate him like you do. I see the good and the bad....you only want to prove everything he does, all the time, in every game and every throw and every pass and every series and every drive and every quarter and every half is bad and that anything good that comes out of the game is always amari, CD, Zeke, Pollard, the RG, the OL, the coach, fans in section 403 rows 34-45, the janitor, the sun's angle, the opposing team, the opposing coach, the opposing players......anything but Dak...so why? why do you hate him so much.

Because, like I’ve said for the thousandth time, he’s the CONSISTENT factor, like Dakstans post for the thousandth time it’s the defense. I don’t see you crying for the millionth time about how our defense is the reason we lose games.

So when Andy Dalton wins, it’s because of the TOs, but when Dak wins, it’s not? You guys are rich. When Collins goes out, suddenly Dakstans are making excuses that San Diego had the more talented roster, but when Dalton doesn’t have Martin, Collins or Smith, the numbers clearly show Dak is better? Yet Dak is as much a bus driver against zone as Dalton, with a talented roster and these OL men.

So again, why are you so bothered so much that you cry about me complaining about Dak?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Well I mean you have changed your stance on why dak sucks like 4000 times since we drafted him. Now its. "well he sucks against zone defense on Sundays in November." Give it up already.

no, its he sucks against zone defenses on sundays in october and november in games played at 60 degrees and above, on grass with stadiums that have the field pointing 45' NW on 4:00 PM games that are played north and west of mississipi river, specially between 4:32 of 2nd quarter and 4:18 of the 3rd quarter....the stats are there for you to see very clearly

 

[5Stars]

What’s up with all the passive-aggressive, “I’m not going to bother”, “You don’t know football”, “please read this book on football, I’m here to teach you”, “you make things up”, but you keep coming back posts?

You very well know what my point is, which is why you keep trying to respond to me, trying hard to convince me that the Paper Tiger is elite…

lol...him and CowboyRoy always use that phrase, "you don't know football". (as if they were the ones that invented the game). lmao

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What are you trying to prove on a football forum? What are you trying to get by trying so hard to convince me Dak is great?

I mean if there can be a thousand posts why Dak is “elite”, why not a few here and there saying he’s a mediocre QB that has been profiting off a talented cast and this franchise has done everything in their power to guide him along the way, while wasting away all the surrounding talent. And that it’s irony that these “two games” redeems these astronomically horrible decision to baby-sit this guy, who is too scared to threaten a zone and who takes years to challenge man coverage looks.

you are arguing with me on something that I have never said. I have never said Dak is great. but seemingly you are upset that somebody else may think he is great and you want to argue with me about it.

and what is your point again. you say he is bad against zone defenses. OK then. you say he is not elite. OK then. you say he is medicore. OK then....you say he is scared playing against zone defenses. ok then....what is your point? you still haven't made a point. you are making statements without having a point.

 

[khiladi]

you are arguing with me on something that I have never said. I have never said Dak is great. but seemingly you are upset that somebody else may think he is great and you want to argue with me about it.

and what is your point again. you say he is bad against zone defenses. OK then. you say he is not elite. OK then. you say he is medicore. OK then....you say he is scared playing against zone defenses. ok then....what is your point? you still haven't made a point. you are making statements without having a point.

What is your point on this football forum? What is your point arguing he is great? This is a thread claiming his elite, which I argue he’s not even close to it, What is your point at all then for responding, if you don’t claim he’s elite?

Nor am I trying to dictate yo you what You can or cannot post about now, like you are.

I mean these self-righteous posts on a football forum are childish. I have admitted I don’t like Dak, I think he’s average for an NFL QB and he’s wasting an elite roster.

 

[5Stars]

you are arguing with me on something that I have never said. I have never said Dak is great. but seemingly you are upset that somebody else may think he is great and you want to argue with me about it.

and what is your point again. you say he is bad against zone defenses. OK then. you say he is not elite. OK then. you say he is medicore. OK then....you say he is scared playing against zone defenses. ok then....what is your point? you still haven't made a point. you are making statements without having a point.

The bold above is a blatant lie! That's all you ever do here!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Because, like I’ve said for the thousandth time, he’s the CONSISTENT factor, like Dakstans post for the thousandth time it’s the defense. I don’t see you crying for the millionth time about how our defense is the reason we lose games.

So when Andy Dalton wins, it’s because of the TOs, but when Dak wins, it’s not? You guys are rich. When Collins goes out, suddenly Dakstans are making excuses that San Diego had the more talented roster, but when Dalton doesn’t have Martin, Collins or Smith, the numbers clearly show Dak is better? Yet Dak is as much a bus driver against zone as Dalton, with a talented roster and these OL men.

So again, why are you so bothered so much that you cry about me complaining about Dak?

I am not complaining...I am just trying to understand what your point of this whole dak hating argument is....you are making claims and saying they are facts (i.e. Amari yelled at Dak and told him to run x play and you spin it as if you were sitting right there listening to their conversations). you say he is bad against zone coverage and that you have figured this out, all by yourself watching on TV, half drunk like the rest of us, but the passing stats show he is a good passer, so do I assume you are saying NFL defensive coordinators haven't figured this out yet? are you claiming you know more than them?

and lets say he is bad. lets say he is not good against the zone. lets say he is not a good QB....what's your point? what do you want?

 

[glimmerman]

Wow this is classic.. Dak passes for 400+ yards in a loss and people fall over themselves to call it "empty stats." Dak passes for 230 yards in a win and it's "other guys carried him..." Yall are as hilarious as you are transparent. It's about winning dude.. Dak committed one turnover which resulted in 3 points for the other team. The fumble was recovered by the Cowboys so basically that was just a sack but nice try. There is no reasonable rationale under which a QB who completes 88% of his passes for what 9? yards per attempt can be construed to have had a bad game. Maybe we have gotten spoiled by all the ridiculous games that we've lost perspective?

When the game was on the line the Cowboys put the ball in Dak's hands and asked him to get them into position to win the game.. He delivered.. in spite of whatever the hell the coaching staff was doing at the end there.. I do wish Dak would have felt empowered enough to go ahead and run another play to get more yards when the coaches were screwing around there. That's the next step in his growth.. the ability and willingness to overrride or cover for the coaching staff when they have a brain fart. Like if we have goal to go at the 2 yard line in the Super Bowl and the coaches send in a pass play to our #5 receiver he will have the cajones to audible into a run with our horse running back.. Unlike .. you know.. those other guys..

I remember Romo finally got sick of Linehan and JG running dumb plays and would just wave the play off and change it to what he wanted. He may develop into that role later this season or next season.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The bold above is a blatant lie! That's all you ever do here!

I have not. I have said why he is not bad or awful. I have said he has had good games and great games. I have said he is a good QB. I have said he is a top 10 QB of current crop of QBs. I don't claim he is great. I claim that he is the best option we have at QB. I have asked if there are better options that can logically be argued would give this team a better chance in winning, then I am open to it. I have argued with people who offered Dalton for example as an option. or have said Zach wilson will do it and we should trade our shorts and several 1st round picks to move up and get him. I think your hatred is blinding you. for you and some of you like khildi its black and white. if you don't hate Dak and think he is the wrost, then you must think he is the greatest....and that's not how it works.

 

[khiladi]

I am not complaining...I am just trying to understand what your point of this whole dak hating argument is....you are making claims and saying they are facts (i.e. Amari yelled at Dak and told him to run x play and you spin it as if you were sitting right there listening to their conversations). you say he is bad against zone coverage and that you have figured this out, all by yourself watching on TV, half drunk like the rest of us, but the passing stats show he is a good passer, so do I assume you are saying NFL defensive coordinators haven't figured this out yet? are you claiming you know more than them?

and lets say he is bad. lets say he is not good against the zone. lets say he is not a good QB....what's your point? what do you want?

Ive quoted posts that point this out, just like the Eagles one. I’m not the only one noticing it and again and again, guys like you just continue to claim I make things up even after I bring forth the evidence over and over again.

You’ve already done this multiple times.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Wow this is classic.. Dak passes for 400+ yards in a loss and people fall over themselves to call it "empty stats." Dak passes for 230 yards in a win and it's "other guys carried him..." Yall are as hilarious as you are transparent. It's about winning dude.. Dak committed one turnover which resulted in 3 points for the other team. The fumble was recovered by the Cowboys so basically that was just a sack but nice try. There is no reasonable rationale under which a QB who completes 88% of his passes for what 9? yards per attempt can be construed to have had a bad game. Maybe we have gotten spoiled by all the ridiculous games that we've lost perspective?

When the game was on the line the Cowboys put the ball in Dak's hands and asked him to get them into position to win the game.. He delivered.. in spite of whatever the hell the coaching staff was doing at the end there.. I do wish Dak would have felt empowered enough to go ahead and run another play to get more yards when the coaches were screwing around there. That's the next step in his growth.. the ability and willingness to overrride or cover for the coaching staff when they have a brain fart. Like if we have goal to go at the 2 yard line in the Super Bowl and the coaches send in a pass play to our #5 receiver he will have the cajones to audible into a run with our horse running back.. Unlike .. you know.. those other guys..

I gave Dak props for last week and loved the way he played. Let's not lump me in with those people that say different, because that wasn't me. Dak was lights out last week.

The run game, o-line, kicker, and defense all deserve more credit for that win than you guys are giving them. It's a shame that some can't give credit to the guys that stepped up when we got a weak game from Dak. Dak gets praise all the time, so it's not going to hurt to give other guys praise when they step up. If they don't step up we lose that game, because Dak didn't play good enough to win without a lot of help from them.