If you have Dak below the Top 7, I can't take you seriously

[Captain-Crash]

lol, seriously. lol

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I love this argument. Out of those 13 PB's, how many had successful careers in the NFL afterwards? It goes back to the old dance of how many guys did Tony make look better than they actually were? Lineman, WR's and RB's?

Yea Romo made defensive players have probowlers

Probowlers is about that year, doesn't mean they are all-pro or going to hall of fame

That was a talented team and much talented than what Dak has had

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Yea Romo made defensive players have probowlers

Probowlers is about that year, doesn't mean they are all-pro or going to hall of fame

That was a talented team and much talented than what Dak has had

This is...such *********.

I agree...romo didn;t make defensive pro bowlers.

But...what offensive player went to another team and still a "pro bowler"...

or even had any kind of real success?

Martellus? Miles? Murray? WHO?

come on....now's your chance. You can really show us what's what. Do it!

Romo had a few good linemen. He never had THREE 1st round O-linemen AND a high first round RB...and and ADDED 1st round WR.

You romo haters are hilarious.

 

[Aviano90]

This is...such *********.

I agree...romo didn;t make defensive pro bowlers.

But...what offensive player went to another team and still a "pro bowler"...

or even had any kind of real success?

Martellus? Miles? Murray? WHO?

come on....now's your chance. You can really show us what's what. Do it!

Romo had a few good linemen. He never had THREE 1st round O-linemen AND a high first round RB...and and ADDED 1st round WR.

You romo haters are hilarious.

Murray had success with Tennessee and made the pro bowl in 2016.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

This is...such *********.

I agree...romo didn;t make defensive pro bowlers.

But...what offensive player went to another team and still a "pro bowler"...

or even had any kind of real success?

Martellus? Miles? Murray? WHO?

come on....now's your chance. You can really show us what's what. Do it!

Romo had a few good linemen. He never had THREE 1st round O-linemen AND a high first round RB...and and ADDED 1st round WR.

You romo haters are hilarious.

Haha didn't realize Tyron, Martin and Frederick were drafted after 2016

Didn't realize Dez Bryant wasn't a first round pick
Didn't realize T.O wasn't a Hall of Famer
Didn't realize that Murray didn't break Cowboys rushing records
Didn't realize Witten was terrible

Stop now before you look like a complete fool

 

[Yobwocs]

rofl. Everytime I come back to this thread, 7 more pages are added. The extent you guys get riled up over this Prescott guy.

 

[basel90]

I am not obsessed with anyone. what I find most amusing is the hatred, utter hatred and meaningless bashing at all cost, no matter what....he plays great and we lose and people here go to whatever ends to knock his performance...we lost they say. then we win and he didn't throw for 300 yards, its not him, its the rest of the team....its a never ending cycle..

and I have never defended, even with you who is a dak baher, I often pose questions. I question the measures some use to knock him and I put that very stat used . often dak bashers measure Dak in a vaccum.....put him next to the rest and you see a different picture...

now, with that said, I have also been a critic of Dak. I am not a blind supporter. I have been accused of being a blind supporter as you just did...to you and some like you, if I am not a blind basher, then I must be a blind supporter...its so black and white to you and few like you.

in the past I have criticized parts of his game where I think he needs to improve. I was a big advocate of not signing him prior to 2018 and waiting one more year to sign him to make sure we have the right buy because the price of getting it wrong was much higher than a few extra million we would pay him....I don't think until 2018 he was the franchise QB that he needed to be...what has impressed me about him, he did come with lesser skills, lacked certain things, but has worked to correct them and improve. he wasn't bestowed with natural talent or arm like lawrence or herbert, etc.....he improved his play....today he is a top 10 QB.

and furthermore, none of the people who criticize him, have offered an alternative better than him, eventhough I asked. and even I asked you in the past. some of the folks like pippy and khiliji tied their boat to Dalton, claiming watch the team take off...we saw what happened. Dalton SUCKED.

and yes, lets see what happens the rest of the season. I hope the coaches get their heads out of their arses. managing games like they have so far will lead to a lot of last minute losses and lost opportunities.

I have praise Dak repeatedly especially when he played great in the first 2 games . I was impressed with him a after the injury . But you seem to take any criticism of him or even any rating below elite for Dak as hatred , which is absurd , you keep repeating the word hatred . That I find strange .
All I am saying is is he 7-9 in ranking , based on some comparison backed with Super Bowls and on field accomplishments.
Let’s hope he does take the cowboys to a deep playoff run now that we have a good defense and rhe other excuses. ( Garrett etc ) are no longer valid .

 

[RonnieT24]

I have praise Dak repeatedly especially when he played great in the first 2 games . I was impressed with him a after the injury . But you seem to take any criticism of him or even any rating below elite for Dak as hatred , which is absurd , you keep repeating the word hatred . That I find strange .
All I am saying is is he 7-9 in ranking , based on some comparison backed with Super Bowls and on field accomplishments.
Let’s hope he does take the cowboys to a deep playoff run now that we have a good defense and rhe other excuses. ( Garrett etc ) are no longer valid .

I was with you up to here. This defense is improved over last year.. but that aint sayin much.. I need to see a few more games holding teams under 20 points before I declare them "good." They are still giving up better than 4.5 yards per carry and almost 350 passing yards a game. What they HAVE done is create turnovers.. Right now both offense and defense are ranked 15th in scoring.. The offense is moving the ball ranking 4th in yards while the defense is 27th. If not for the turnovers we'd be in big trouble.. But if they keep it up we will be fine.. I don't really care where people have Dak "ranked." He's the #1 QB of the Dallas Cowboys.. That's all the ranking that matters to me.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Haha didn't realize Tyron, Martin and Frederick were drafted after 2016

Didn't realize Dez Bryant wasn't a first round pick
Didn't realize T.O wasn't a Hall of Famer
Didn't realize that Murray didn't break Cowboys rushing records
Didn't realize Witten was terrible

Stop now before you look like a complete fool

You cheated....

I never said those guys weren't good...they just weren't all 1st rounders. And you conveniently didn't say who left and excelled.

I ain't the only fool in town fool.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Murray had success with Tennessee and made the pro bowl in 2016.

And promptly got canned

 

[Aviano90]

And promptly got canned

He played 2017 and helped groom Henry.

Additionally, Bennett went on and made the Pro Bowl with the Bears after leaving here.

That is 2 players who left and made the Pro Bowl after leaving.

 

[noshame]

Ok... I'll submit that he's below perennial Super Bowl winning Brady, Rodgers, Wilson, and Mahomes.


As for the next tier.... the Allens, the Jacksons, the Watsons, and the Herberts


We all surrender that Allen has a stronger arm, but are the other attributes overwhelmingly in either's favor? I think Dak has more all-around better traits, but Allen's arm is definitely stronger.

Watson is AWOL, allowing other QBs to surpass him while he's on vacation..

Jackson is only been playing at this current level for 2 years. Elite coaches have not yet started to catch up with him to take away what he does best yet. Dak has been here 6 years. He has already survived the round of elite coaches gameplanning against him and came out from the fires still strong and burning. Guys like Colin Kaepernick, Jared Goff, and RGII were not strong enough to overcome that and they went away. Dak persisted and figured them out. Let's wait to see what Jackson can do once he gets that roundabout first, and it's quite possible he could fade away too.

You'd like to say Herbert > Dak, but Dak wasn't the one who threw 3 interceptions today. One was taken away by a bogus PI call on Kearse but in reality he threw 3.

Dak is 4-0 against Cousins in Washington, and subsequently ran him out of town. He's way better than Cousins.

Tannehill has not been looking good to start. Besides, Titans go up and down with Henry. if Henry has a bad game, Titans are toast.

If your rating Dak after 2 games i cant take you seriously

 

[Irvin88_4life]

You cheated....

I never said those guys weren't good...they just weren't all 1st rounders. And you conveniently didn't say who left and excelled.

I ain't the only fool in town fool.

You said Romo never had 3 first round OL or first round receiver. That's false and i pointed it out to you. Truth hurts big dog but keep trying to make excuses and you will continually look silly. I'm trying to help you

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

He played 2017 and helped groom Henry.

Additionally, Bennett went on and made the Pro Bowl with the Bears after leaving here.

That is 2 players who left and made the Pro Bowl after leaving.

two?

Well that settles it. Romo had self-made all pros all over the place.

How long did they play after that?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You said Romo never had 3 first round OL or first round receiver. That's false and i pointed it out to you. Truth hurts big dog but keep trying to make excuses and you will continually look silly. I'm trying to help you

I did say that but you are taking it out of context. That was one sentence.....a package deal.


3 online AND a very high 1st round RB stud". They then got rid of Dez and added a another 1st round WR.

Tony was SUPPOSED to have it....

In the need we'll never know but Tony's last drive....is an indication of what a vet QB would have done with all that talent.

No...I'm not "hating on Dak". I thought he did very well for a rook.

 

[G2]

This is...such *********.

I agree...romo didn;t make defensive pro bowlers.

But...what offensive player went to another team and still a "pro bowler"...

or even had any kind of real success?

Martellus? Miles? Murray? WHO?

come on....now's your chance. You can really show us what's what. Do it!

Romo had a few good linemen. He never had THREE 1st round O-linemen AND a high first round RB...and and ADDED 1st round WR.

You romo haters are hilarious.

Pretty flimsy point. Players that move on to other teams after playing in Dallas are very much likely toward the end of their career.
Let's not make Romo into some God who never had a good team. It's complete nonsense. He had HOF players.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Pretty flimsy point. Players that move on to other teams after playing in Dallas are very much likely toward the end of their career.
Let's not make Romo into some God who never had a good team. It's complete nonsense. He had HOF players.

That's fine. I stand by my opinion that Romo mad players better than what they actually were. Especially the receivers.

It is just my opinion....I hope it doesn't offended anyone.

 

[G2]

That's fine. I stand by my opinion that Romo mad players better than what they actually were. Especially the receivers.

It is just my opinion....I hope it doesn't offended anyone.

Why is it whenever someone hears a different opinion they turn to "hope I don't offend anyone."
You couldn't possibly offend me.
It's a general statement that can't really be proven outside an opinion. You could say that about every franchise QB. And OF COURSE Romo helped Wrs, he is throwing them the ball after all.

 

[MyFairLady]

My QB rankings:

1 Pat Mahomes
2 Tom Brady
3 Arron Rodgers
4 Russell Wilson
5 Deshaun Watson
6 Dak Prescott
7 Kyle Murray
8 Josh Allen
9 Justin Hebert
10 Baker Mayfield

Honorable mentions;
Joe Burrow
Derek Carr
Matthew Stafford
Lamar Jackson
Trevor Lawrence

Pretty good list. The drop off after the top 4 is substantial. Lamar Jackson should be #5 IMHO with Watson at #6. After that there is a large group from #7 to #15 that are pretty interchangeable. Dak can reasonably be put anywhere from #7 to #12 IMHO depending on what and who you like. Cousins, Rivers, Ryan and Tannehill all should at least get an honorable mention.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Step gave huge weight up all the time...dude was strong and like a wrestler..would VV move him sure but it would be off to the side. Also everytime VV came pushing he would've watched #22 go right through the hole he left cause step would just walk him out the hole.

step was a tactician. he had great great technique.