If you have Dak below the Top 7, I can't take you seriously

[5Stars]

I have not. I have said why he is not bad or awful. I have said he has had good games and great games. I have said he is a good QB. I have said he is a top 10 QB of current crop of QBs. I don't claim he is great. I claim that he is the best option we have at QB. I have asked if there are better options that can logically be argued would give this team a better chance in winning, then I am open to it. I have argued with people who offered Dalton for example as an option. or have said Zach wilson will do it and we should trade our shorts and several 1st round picks to move up and get him. I think your hatred is blinding you. for you and some of you like khildi its black and white. if you don't hate Dak and think he is the wrost, then you must think he is the greatest....and that's not how it works.

Don't play semantics with me. You are so transparent. How embarrassing.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Ive quoted posts that point this out, just like the Eagles one. I’m not the only one noticing it and again and again, guys like you just continue to claim I make things up even after I bring forth the evidence over and over again.

You’ve already done this multiple times.

It's embarrassing how him and a couple others are more upset this week with a win than they were last week with a loss, isn't it?

It's like they're not happy unless Dak gets his numbers or something. The actual outcome of the game doesn't matter. Because they would rather be able to brag about some stats instead. That's why they're so emotional and sensitive this week, because Dak didn't give em enough to brag about numbers wise. There's particular posters that care nothing about wins/loses.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

That's your opinion. I expect better than "good, not great" from my 40 million a year QB.

You can have your standards low but I chose not to. That goes for every player and coach in this organization.

I am just saying based on your current response, if he throws less than 300 yards in a game, you are going to be disappointed. he got paid 40M (not really though), and from now on he has to throw 300 yards....would the standard be different for QBs that haven't been paid and after they get paid, they have to throw for 300 yards or else they had a bad day because of their contract. is the output expectations are contractually based?
for example Russell wilson has 33M contract (about to go in the high 40s soon) and he only had a 3 300 yard games last year. does it mean russell wilson wasn't any good last year?

btw, I don't have low standards....we won. he led the team to a win. last week he led a drive that put the team ahead and the defense let us down. perhaps if he played DE next to Parsons, and had a sack to seal a game you might be satisfied.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What is your point on this football forum? What is your point arguing he is great? This is a thread claiming his elite, which I argue he’s not even close to it, What is your point at all then for responding, if you don’t claim he’s elite?

Nor am I trying to dictate yo you what You can or cannot post about now, like you are.

I mean these self-righteous posts on a football forum are childish. I have admitted I don’t like Dak, I think he’s average for an NFL QB and he’s wasting an elite roster.

you are trying to turn tables...fairly smart....and you so obviously are avoiding to answer, perhaps because you have no point. perhaps your point is to just hate dak....which can be a valid point, given everything you say is nothing but negative and claim to know more than coaches and scouts and NFL insiders....

I have never claimed he is elite. in fact I have gone as far as saying I don't htink he is elite. again, in our black and white world, if anyone doesn't hate dak they have to think he is great and elite. you just said that in your response.

and so you are at least trying to make a point that you think he is wasting a roster spot. ok then, who would you have in his place that would lead to wins and championships...please don't say Dalton (I am trying to make sure you don't look too stupid).

so let me ask you, out of curiosity. are you claiming you know more than NFL beat writers. former players. NFL FO personnel, executives and scouts who have put Dak as a top 10 QB? I mean its clearly stated in your response that you think he is not a good QB, which is exactly the opposite of what these other folks are saying.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I am just saying based on your current response, if he throws less than 300 yards in a game, you are going to be disappointed. he got paid 40M (not really though), and from now on he has to throw 300 yards....would the standard be different for QBs that haven't been paid and after they get paid, they have to throw for 300 yards or else they had a bad day because of their contract. is the output expectations are contractually based?
for example Russell wilson has 33M contract (about to go in the high 40s soon) and he only had a 3 300 yard games last year. does it mean russell wilson wasn't any good last year?

btw, I don't have low standards....we won. he led the team to a win. last week he led a drive that put the team ahead and the defense let us down. perhaps if he played DE next to Parsons, and had a sack to seal a game you might be satisfied.

I don't care about his yards. I care about the 0TDs, 1 INT, and 1 FUM that he ended the game with as I've said countless times.

The O-line, run game, kicker, and defense all deserve more credit for that win that Dak does. He personally didn't do enough to win, but the guys around him did and we won. That can't be depended on every week. I expect better from the QB than that and I believe he will be better, but for this one week, he didn't play well enough to win, but sometimes you win games when you don't play all that great.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It's embarrassing how him and a couple others are more upset this week with a win than they were last week with a loss, isn't it?

It's like they're not happy unless Dak gets his numbers or something. The actual outcome of the game doesn't matter. Because they would rather be able to brag about some stats instead. That's why they're so emotional and sensitive this week, because Dak didn't give em enough to brag about numbers wise. There's particular posters that care nothing about wins/loses.

I have said it several times. I am very happy we got a win. I am not happy about how the coaches have managed the games so far. those two are not exclusive of each other.

why are you so angry about us winning? you seem hell bent on trying to prove Dak was bad and it was everybody else and not Dak for the win and in a passive aggressive way wishing we would have lost the game and seem happy we lost last week.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I have said it several times. I am very happy we got a win. I am not happy about how the coaches have managed the games so far. those two are not exclusive of each other.

why are you so angry about us winning? you seem hell bent on trying to prove Dak was bad and it was everybody else and not Dak for the win and in a passive aggressive way wishing we would have lost the game and seem happy we lost last week.

You're fooling nobody.

 

[RonnieT24]

It's embarrassing how him and a couple others are more upset this week with a win than they were last week with a loss, isn't it?

It's like they're not happy unless Dak gets his numbers or something. The actual outcome of the game doesn't matter. Because they would rather be able to brag about some stats instead. That's why they're so emotional and sensitive this week, because Dak didn't give em enough to brag about numbers wise. There's particular posters that care nothing about wins/loses.

Who are these people. I have not seen anyone being upset about a win.. I have seen people responding to those claiming that Dak played poorly because he didn't put up monster stats. There is a huge difference. No real Cowboy fan is upset about the win. I do have to question why anybody feels the need to bag on the starting QB after a win.. Seems to me THOSE are the people who are upset with a win.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I don't care about his yards. I care about the 0TDs, 1 INT, and 1 FUM that he ended the game with as I've said countless times.

The O-line, run game, kicker, and defense all deserve more credit for that win that Dak does. He personally didn't do enough to win, but the guys around him did and we won. That can't be depended on every week. I expect better from the QB than that and I believe he will be better, but for this one week, he didn't play well enough to win, but sometimes you win games when you don't play all that great.

so 85% completion rate is not good? going 5/5 on the last drive putting the team in position to win wasn't good? somebody made those crucial passes. was it Rush? did I miss the part of the game he played...

 

[the_h0wey]

That can't be right...Dak won and Herbert lost... so Dak has to be the best QB since QBs are are held responsible for wins and losses.

Plus, Dak's rating 87.8 > Herbert 87.2

He's just a troll. Move along nothing to see here

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Who are these people. I have not seen anyone being upset about a win.. I have seen people responding to those claiming that Dak played poorly because he didn't put up monster stats. There is a huge difference. No real Cowboy fan is upset about the win. I do have to question why anybody feels the need to bag on the starting QB after a win.. Seems to me THOSE are the people who are upset with a win.

if you are not knocking Dak about a win, you are then upset with the win because Dak didn't get his stats....I have said it several times. its very black and white with these people. if you don't bash dak and hate him, then you must think he is elite and you want to see losses but Dak stats....they don't understand anything else outside of that little area they put themselves in.

 

[phildadon86]

so was he game manager week 1?

Not at all. He did his job in week 2. I am just simply saying. 240 yards and no TDs is something you can get out of Sam Darnold. Not a guy whos paid to be elite. But you glossed over what I said. The final drive of the game. Thats what you pay Prescott to do. I am a big Dak fan so dont lump me in with everyone else who isnt. lol.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Who are these people. I have not seen anyone being upset about a win.. I have seen people responding to those claiming that Dak played poorly because he didn't put up monster stats. There is a huge difference. No real Cowboy fan is upset about the win. I do have to question why anybody feels the need to bag on the starting QB after a win.. Seems to me THOSE are the people who are upset with a win.

So, players performance shouldn't be evaluated after wins? I hope the coaches don't have that mentality.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You're fooling nobody.

and you are? come on dude....you are the master spinner. I envy to be like you in spinning. I could never be as good

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

So, players performance shouldn't be evaluated after wins? I hope the coaches don't have that mentality.

no, they should....but out of curiosity, you said Dak didn't play good. Do you mean he played Bad? its a simple answer, which I am sure you will spin and the first you are going to do is throw out the stat 0 TD, 1 Int, 1 Fumble and sa decipher for yourself. but I want to see you give a straight forward answer...I am sure you are going to avoid as much as you can and then tell me you live in my head rent free....

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

so 85% completion rate is not good? going 5/5 on the last drive putting the team in position to win wasn't good? somebody made those crucial passes. was it Rush? did I miss the part of the game he played...

Dak did what he needed to do in end, but we're not in that position because of his personal play that game. We're in that position because of the guys that stepped up and did their jobs very effectively when Dak wasn't at his best.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

and you are? come on dude....you are the master spinner. I envy to be like you in spinning. I could never be as good

You're a Dak fan before you're a Cowboys fan. Always and forever.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Not at all. He did his job in week 2. I am just simply saying. 240 yards and no TDs is something you can get out of Sam Darnold. Not a guy whos paid to be elite. But you glossed over what I said. The final drive of the game. Thats what you pay Prescott to do. I am a big Dak fan so dont lump me in with everyone else who isnt. lol.

last year Wilson had 3 300 yard games. 5 games less than 200. he is making 33M..... is his salary justified? couldn't darnold do the same?

I am not lumping you.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You're a Dak fan before you're a Cowboys fan. Always and forever.

you are a dak hater before you are a cowboys fan. always and forever.

that explains your bitterness about our win this week.

 

[foofighters]

Let me know when Dak has 13 probowlers in 1 season on his team

I love this argument. Out of those 13 PB's, how many had successful careers in the NFL afterwards? It goes back to the old dance of how many guys did Tony make look better than they actually were? Lineman, WR's and RB's?