Post Week 3: QB Statistical Ranking

[Hennessy_King]

I wanna see Pappy's list

Gotta @ him @PAPPYDOG

 

[cityochamps]

I think it was some kind of PFF rating

It must of been. I would delete it if I could. Lesson learned here kids, or maybe I made my point.

 

[DFWJC]

If Dak keeps converting at this high level and keeps making the defense defend all our playmakers..again I expect the Cowboys offense to be tops in effeciency and that is what wins Championships...

It's looking promising so far.

 

[Direwolf63]

It must of been. I would delete it if I could. Lesson learned here kids, or maybe I made my point.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/analytics-love-it-or-hate-it.484668/

 

[Captain-Crash]

I skipped doing this until we had 3 games, but it's still too early.

There are two stats that almost always relate to (over the course of a FULL season) great QB play.

1) Standard QB Passer rating
2) Total TDs (Rushing and Passing) - Total Turnovers (Fumbles lost and Interceptions)

Take a QBs rating in those two areas and average it and you always get the top MVP candidates and All_Pro selections.

QB play has been great so far this year around the league....for the many of you that don't watch other teams.

These will change a TON over the next several weeks but they are after 3 weeks...so don't freak out.
Just stats...no bias. I only included QBs that have played in 3 games.

1. Stafford
2. Wilson
3. Cousins
4. Brady
5. Mahomes
6. Murray
7. Bridgewater
8. Winston
9. Rodgers
10. Carr
11. Prescott
12. Burrow
13. Hurts
14. Allen
15. Darnold
16. Garoppolo
17. Heinke
18. Jones
19. Herbert
20. Goff
21. Wentz
22. Ryan
23. Jackson
24. Tannehill
25. Roethlisberger
26. M Jones
27. Lawrence
28. Z Wilson

Taylor, Tua, Mills, Fields, Lance, Brissett all played some but not enough yet.

 

[DFWJC]

ouch

 

[glimmerman]

So now he sucks and is not top 10 or elite..

 

[Captain-Crash]

ouch

 

[darthseinfeld]

Candidates to move up
Rodgers, Allen, Dak?, Tannehill?, Jackson?,.....Lawrence and Wilson (cant get much lower..lol)

Candidates to move down
Winston, Bridgewater, Darnold, Garoppolo

Tracking Darnold is going to be interesting this year. He made strides his second year, and look like he could be a franchise caliber QB if he continued upward. His stats weren't great, but an improvement and the team went 7-6 with him at QB. Then the Adam Gase dumpster fire happened. At the end of year, it will be interesting to see if he really is picking up where he left off in 2019

 

[darthseinfeld]

Hurts did not have remotely near as good a passer rating as Dak did last night.
Not in the same universe

Dak was lights-out.
Hurts was...jag

Wouldn't even say jag. Pretty much all of his production was the definition of garbage time stats

 

[darthseinfeld]

 

[Rockport]

I wanna see Pappy's list

Papsmell is hiding for now.

 

[Hoov]

I’m not real big on a lot of stats that are used to rank teams/players but One of the stats I like to watch for offense is 3rd down conversion percentage.
Dallas is currently ranked 4th in 3rd down conversions.
The teams above them are chiefs, chargers and rams. I believe 3rd down conversion percentage says a lot about How well a QB is playing or managing the game.

 

[DFWJC]

I’m not real big on a lot of stats that are used to rank teams/players but One of the stats I like to watch for offense is 3rd down conversion percentage.
Dallas is currently ranked 4th in 3rd down conversions.
The teams above them are chiefs, chargers and rams. I believe 3rd down conversion percentage says a lot about How well a QB is playing or managing the game.

I think it tells you the efficiency of the offense as a whole.....including the QB.
If you have a good line, good play calling, good Rbs, good WRs, and good QB....well, you'll probably convert a ton of 3rd downs.

Dallas has all of those, so yeah, they should be converting 3rd downs at a high rate.

 

[plasticman]

It's a good start. Many had the Cowboys at 0-2 given their injuries.

 

[JoeKing]

IMO, this is a useless list. This information ranks up there with the QB rating that had Hurts ranking higher than Dak in the Philly game.

 

[GORICO]

I skipped doing this until we had 3 games, but it's still too early.

There are two stats that almost always relate to (over the course of a FULL season) great QB play.

1) Standard QB Passer rating
2) Total TDs (Rushing and Passing) - Total Turnovers (Fumbles lost and Interceptions)

Take a QBs rating in those two areas and average it and you always get the top MVP candidates and All_Pro selections.

QB play has been great so far this year around the league....for the many of you that don't watch other teams.

These will change a TON over the next several weeks but they are after 3 weeks...so don't freak out.
Just stats...no bias. I only included QBs that have played in 3 games.

1. Stafford
2. Wilson
3. Cousins
4. Brady
5. Mahomes
6. Murray
7. Bridgewater
8. Winston
9. Rodgers
10. Carr
11. Prescott
12. Burrow
13. Hurts
14. Allen
15. Darnold
16. Garoppolo
17. Heinke
18. Jones
19. Herbert
20. Goff
21. Wentz
22. Ryan
23. Jackson
24. Tannehill
25. Roethlisberger
26. M Jones
27. Lawrence
28. Z Wilson

Taylor, Tua, Mills, Fields, Lance, Brissett all played some but not enough yet.

except for that over throw Int against chargers Dak has been on point in passing and timing....Gorico Platinum guarantee Dak top 7 end of season at least

 

[Aulac]

All I've been hearing was praise for Herbert....yet he sits there at #19. Was expecting to see him higher on the list.

He has multiple touchdowns call back in multiple games because his team keep making silly penalties like holding, false start, illegal shifts, and etc... Two TD called back from the Cowboys game and one TD called back from the Chiefs game. I think he had one or two TD called back in his W1 game as well but don't remember who they played.

 

[DFWJC]

except for that over throw Int against chargers Dak has been on point in passing and timing....Gorico Platinum guarantee Dak top 7 end of season at least

Sounds about right

 

[Hoov]

I think it tells you the efficiency of the offense as a whole.....including the QB.
If you have a good line, good play calling, good Rbs, good WRs, and good QB....well, you'll probably convert a ton of 3rd downs.

Dallas has all of those, so yeah, they should be converting 3rd downs at a high rate.

The reason I don’t like the TD to INT ratio is because a team that has a good o line and good RB like Dallas will typically call more runs near the goal line compared to a team that is more likely to pass near the goal line.
So a QB can play a great game and if the team runs for 4 TD and 0 passing TD then the ratio is not going to reflect how well that QB played