Moore vs The Master

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Will be interested to see how Belichick adjusts to Tackle down blocking and pulling Guards.


 

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This is part of your quote: Dallas' defense isn't bad but Buffalo's defense has two shutouts this season, albeit against very weak teams, Dallas isn't up to their level. But I'd expect a 10-14 point win at this point. Not sure why you mention Buffalo when we are playing NE.

Buffalo was mentioned as comparing Dallas' defense to it, in regards to how good the Cowboys are. In other words the Cowboys offense is great, but the defense is not. But in order to say Dallas' defense is not that great, you have to have something to compare it to, and in this case I used Buffalo's defense.
 

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Kellen Moore hasn't had the pleasure of preparing for Belichick and his ever morphing defensive schemes but this will be a great experience for him and excellent preparation for the rest of the season. No other DC is going to out prep Belichick for the Cowboys.

On the other side of that are the teams the Cowboys have yet to play and their DC's watching to see how Belichick takes on the #1 offense in the league. And the tricky part of that is the balance the Cowboys have. Not such an easy task.

Belichick is known for taking away what an OC likes to do best, well, which is that? Moore has the #2 rush game and #10 pass game in yards but 3rd in TD's and 2nd in completion percentage. Pick your poison.

This past game, Belichick will see the Giants stack the box on film and the Cowboys still ran on them. Shades of the early 90's. It is not about what you allow me to do but what I want to do and can do.

He can sell out against the run but he really doesn't have the talent to defend a good passing game and for a run team, the Cowboys have a very good passing game. I do think the Cowboys are the hardest team to prepare for from the defensive perspective.

I know there is some concern Moore might get HC offers in the off season and this is the game that all GM eyes will be on him so the better he does against Belichick, the better the chance that we lose him sooner. But, I do not see anyway he doesn't leave soon anyway as he could have that "next McVay" light shining on him.

And we already know one owner and GM in Vegas that will have a keen eye on Young Kellen. And maybe one in NY?

Can you imagine being Kellen Moore this week and preparing for the man that is the living legend in defense in the NFL? This is exactly the kind of game that Belichick needs to right his ship and reclaim his legendary status. He missed that two games ago and this is his chance to grab that. Young Kellen will get his best.

I like the fact that Young Kellen has been playing chess instead of checkers because Sunday afternoon, he goes up against the Grand Master. The game within the game will be as interesting as the game itself.

I think Belichick will test the patience of Moore and see if the young OC is up for a tight game going into the 4th quarter, a New England specialty. They feed you the beans for 3 quarters and hope you run out of gas in the 4th quarter, the ever present strategy of a defensive genius.

I like Young Kellen's edge in this, he knows he has the better talent and he is capable of playing the game anyway The Master wants to play it and that is not something Belichick is used to facing.

Edge - Moore, Edge - Cowboys in a close one.

This 17th game added will be the most important game of the season because of the game within the game and the residual effect that can have on the rest of this season.

What I find encouraging about Moore is he's been good at adapting to whatever game plan the opponent throws at him. This New England team definitely has weaknesses, and I think Moore and this offense can exploit them.
 
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Very true.

But Dak has been giving KM his roses after every game.

So has CD, so has Amari, Zeke, Schultz, Wilson and all the OL.

If anyone knows who's the brain behind this offensive explosion it is the players on offense.


It makes Moore's job look easier when you have guys at every skill position who can beat 1 on 1. It's synergy. Good route combos, good players, QB making good decisions.
 

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Judging by the opening Vegas line which was Dallas -1 it quickly moved to -3 1/2 which means the big money went on the Cowboys early.

I definitely like Dallas only giving up 1 but 3 1/2 is a different story.

Edit: sorry I meant to post this in another thread.
 
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It makes Moore's job look easier when you have guys at every skill position who can beat 1 on 1. It's synergy. Good route combos, good players, QB making good decisions.

There’s also better play calling than we’ve had in over a decade.
 
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It makes Moore's job look easier when you have guys at every skill position who can beat 1 on 1. It's synergy. Good route combos, good players, QB making good decisions.

I guess that's why Linehan got HC offers.

And Garrett too.

Wait .... no they didnt.
 

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I guess that's why Linehan got HC offers.

And Garrett too.

Wait .... no they didnt.


So that makes DQ a bad coach cause he wasn't offered a HC gig?

Were we not a top 10 offense almost every year under Garrett as HC? Same with linehan as oc.
 

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That’s valid, but my statement was him being overrated as a head coach which is true. This is his seventh season without Brady and only one of them have been above .500
I think his rep as a coach will be diminished if he doesn’t Atleast build a serious contender without Brady but replacing the goat will take time and getting a SB caliber QB is the hardest get in football
 

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That defense wasn't at full strength last week. You won't have the luxury of going up against the same unit that Houston went up against. You'll be up against the unit that shut down Tom Brady.


Well trust me your defense will not be going against the same offense that houston has that put up 20+ points you'll be going against the one that has hung 30 on top ranked d's all year....Also your offense will be going against the Defense that is 2 TO's a game against GOOD QB's not rookies learning the game.
 

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So that makes DQ a bad coach cause he wasn't offered a HC gig?

Were we not a top 10 offense almost every year under Garrett as HC? Same with linehan as oc.

Yet they were not coveted for HC jobs like Kellen is right now.

Why is that?

It's more than just having the best talent, even the players say this.

Why is it so difficult for you to admit that KM is a special coach? His creativity on offense is plain to see and he has grown by leaps and bounds since becoming OC.

You cannot say same about either Linehan or Garrett, they DEPENDED on having the best talent to be successful.
 

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Yet they were not coveted for HC jobs like Kellen is right now.

Why is that?

It's more than just having the best talent, even the players say this.

Why is it so difficult for you to admit that KM is a special coach? His creativity on offense is plain to see and he has grown by leaps and bounds since becoming OC.

You cannot say same about either Linehan or Garrett, they DEPENDED on having the best talent to be successful.


To be honest DQ is doing a GREAT job....in the current NFL no label will get you a HC job faster than that ever elusive "QB whisperer" that is why young OC's with QB success get shot to the top of the "Must Have" HC. The thing is KM has been great with MM so far its way diferent...does this mean he is ready to run a team....My opinion is no, that has a diferent set of skills and pressure to be able to handle.
 

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To be honest DQ is doing a GREAT job....in the current NFL no label will get you a HC job faster than that ever elusive "QB whisperer" that is why young OC's with QB success get shot to the top of the "Must Have" HC. The thing is KM has been great with MM so far its way diferent...does this mean he is ready to run a team....My opinion is no, that has a diferent set of skills and pressure to be able to handle.

This is not about DQ, he us doing an excellent job thus far. But defense still has ways to go before being compared to KM's offense.

Mentioning DQ was just @charron way of deflecting because he could not support his asinine post about KM not being special because Cowboys so talented on offense.

The entire NFL is touting KM as a wunderkind and in line for HC spot next season.

No such cacophony for Linehan when he was headlining an even MORE talented group of offensive players just a few seasons ago during the heyday of the Great Wall, part 2.
 

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This is not about DQ, he us doing an excellent job thus far. But defense still has ways to go before being compared to KM's offense.

Mentioning DQ was just @charron way of deflecting because he could not support his asinine post about KM not being special because Cowboys so talented on offense.

The entire NFL is touting KM as a wunderkind and in line for HC spot next season.

No such cacophony for Linehan when he was headlining an even MORE talented group of offensive players just a few seasons ago during the heyday of the Great Wall, part 2.


You brought up the point I just applied it to DQ because he also isn't a HC. But you completely overlooked facts that we e typically been a top offense during the last 10 years before and after Moore. Can Moore do the same with lesser talent? One can only guess cause right now he has a ton of talent to work with.
 

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All you have to do is look at AZ and who they hired as the HC for their QB to know why Moore will be high on the list, if not at the top.

He just needs to be careful and make sure he is in a good win position like McVay was. These teams with young QB's like CHI and JAX are potential or a team like HOU, if they go back to the well for a QB with some picks. That LV job looks like nothing but trouble to me. But that does get him closer to home, if that's important. I don't see Carroll retiring after this season.
 

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Coincidently he goes to a team that hasn’t won it in two decades, hasn’t been a powerhouse nor a legitimate contender, but somehow wins the Super Bowl the first year he’s there. What a crazy coincidence. It is a team game, but the quarterback is the most important aspect.

True.. but there are probably 15 QBs who could have won a Super Bowl with that team. It's loaded.. tremendous defense.. stupid receiving corps.. hall of fame tight end and thousand yard rusher. They just needed to jettison the guy who committed 40 turnovers.. This really isn't rocket surgery.
 
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