Dak Prescott stats when the game is tied in the 4th quarter or OT

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Irvin88_4life said:
Well you said everybody...... that's not a true statement. Sure, you and others have continued to doubt him but others have not. Even after the ankle, shoulder and no preseason others were still saying he was a top 5 QB, which makes your statement that Dak is playing better than everybody expected.

I will help you write the correct statement.......

Dak is playing better than his haters thought he would.
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If that makes your day feel better have at it.
 

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RonnieT24 said:
I was going to ask it in a completely new thread but I can just as well ask here.. Why is it so hard for some people to accept that Dak Prescott now throws the ball as well as ANYBODY. He doesn't have to take a back seat to Rodgers, Mahomes, Herbert, Stafford, Brady.. whoever people wanna hold up as the flavor of the month.. Just watch the guy play.. He's droppin more dimes than a stool pigeon in an Edward G Robinson movie.. The old "so and so has better arm talent" canard needs to be put to bed once and for all. Those guys just came into the league better prepared to make NFL throws based on the offenses they played in at college. People have been lazily equating "better prepared as a passer" with having better arm talent. Sorry but it's just not true anymore, if it ever was. Dak is able to put it between the numbers from 40 yards away now. The evidence is steadily mounting that now that that he has had 5 years to work on his craft Dak has arrived at a level where he can spin it as well as anybody.. Brees has said it, Peyton and Eli said it.. Belichick said it.. Why are there morons in this fan base still hell bent on denying it? Are they just blind?
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I'm just commenting to tell you that I learned a new word. I consider myself fairly well-read. That said, "canard" was new to me. Awesome.

I also couldn't agree more with what you've said. Dak has become really, really accurate and has the strength to throw all over the field.
 
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Irvin88_4life said:
Well it's true.

Did you or did you not say "everybody"

What you wrote was a false statement.

You could have just said "I" or "some" and i wouldn't have said anything
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Actually what he said was "better than ANYONE expected." I know it's splitting hairs but if we're going to attack a man on his words then attack him on HIS words not our interpretation of his words. Yes there were plenty of us who thought Dak would get to this level but there were also plenty who had doubts.. Frankly I think what is surprising us is the rest of the team.. the defense in particular. They're not WASTING these great performances by Dak. They're also not so bad that he's going out there thinking he has to press and score every damn possession. I think the TEAM is playing better than anyone expected.. But I don't think Dak is..
 
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Scotman said:
I'm just commenting to tell you that I learned a new word. I consider myself fairly well-read. That said, "canard" was new to me. Awesome.

I also couldn't agree more with what you've said. Dak has become really, really accurate and has the strength to throw all over the field.
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Yeah.. it's painfully obvious when I watch him throw that the ball is going to within 5-6 inches of where he wants it. And it's getting there in a hurry. I really think if they could blur out Dak from the video or superimpose Mahomes or Rodgers people would be able to see just how well he's throwing the ball. It's like the fact that it's leaving Dak's hand messes up their vision or something. I can readily acknowledge that he could not throw it this consistently well when he came into the league.. Why can't people do the same and acknowledge that he now can?

Oh and you're welcome.. Canard is a good argument word..
 

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pansophy said:
I think once people have a story about someone it’s hard to rewrite it, especially when people are arguing their points for a few years. He really wasn’t an accurate passer his first 3 years. End of year 3 command of the offense and anticipation really started to show. Year 4, and the new throwing motion, is what sold me. Those first 3 games was watching a different guy. He had shoulder issues the 2nd half of the year and that affected his accuracy. In hindsight, it was probably due to the new motion and the same issue he felt this year that led to shutting down the arm and a new warm up.

Point being, people saw inaccurate throws and so the story wasn’t rewritten even though it was due to injury. Had he gone all year without injury I don’t think these conversations would be happening. Last year would have done it except the ankle injury knocks him out. I think some guys just need to see a whole season of him throwing like he has to rewrite the story in their head.
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very good point. people hate to be wrong and have a hard time admitting it. its their mental weakness to think that way.

and to your point, yes he was not very accurate his first 3 years. Kitna helped him tremendously, with his foot work, which improved his accuracy. a lot of his issues and sacks were becaue he didn't trust his own arm so he would hold on too long. I advocated back then not to extend him, until he can improve that. if he did, he would be good and we pay a little more and at least we got the QB right. if he didn't it would be hard to get out of a large contract.....and he proved he can. he has improved his game every year.......
 
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RonnieT24 said:
I have to trust Dak and the other leaders on this squad to keep guys focused on "the brotherhood" as he calls it. I also have to trust that these coaches will jettison anybody that threatens to upset that. I think dropping Jaylon Smith, knowing how the guy in the owner's box feels about him, illustrates that these guys will do what it takes to keep this train on the tracks and not let one selfish arse derail it. None of the guys coming back strike me as the sort who would be a problem. DLaw has been a good soldier about rotating his entire career. Gallup runs more go routes than anybody in the league not named Desean Jackson so he aint gonna complain about getting a lot of blows either. The only one that might be a bit dicey is gonna be Collins.. But the coaching staff knows how much they have been having to help Steele versus what they would have to do with Collins. If the help percentage has been above whatever threshold they have set then you re-insert Collins and don't look back. Maybe you rotate Steele in under the guise of getting Collins back up to speed. We have not even talked about Hill and Gallimore.. but frankly neither of them has any station to be demanding playing time either. They will need to bring it in practice just to get a jersey on Sunday.
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I think, thankfully, DLaw dropping the whole Hot Boyz nonsense and these younger players stepping up will humble him a bit. Collins I fear may be a possible issue seeing as how he showed up to camp last season in really poor shape before his injury and then the whole suspension thing this season.....needless to say Steele stepping up puts Dallas in a better position to deal with him. Hill, he seems another 2nd round afterthought but Gallimore I would like to see more from alongside Osa.
 

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USArmyVet said:
Takes a special QB to snap himself the ball, block, throw,catch, kick the extra point, and play defense. Dak is special that way.
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oh, so now its the team...not Dak, but you, yes you were here talking about Dak's record....

I call you flip flop..... because that's what you are....

you are butthurt, that much is clearly obvious
 

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phildadon86 said:
Go cry about it. You are the first to blame Dak in losses but when the team wins its a team win. You are part of the problem. Let me ask you. How is it that Dak is responsible for losses but not wins? If its a team game. As you say it is. The TEAM loses and WINS. It doesnt change to fit your narrative.
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USArmyVet said:
You mean when I counter members points that "Dak" is 47-28"? The team wins and the team loses, it's that simple.
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no, its that you counter that Dak lost the game to Tampa, right after the TEAM lost to tampa....its the counter that you point to his 2019 record....that Dak lost the Philly game, not the TEAM. the the counter that you blame him for playoff losses, not the TEAM. its the counter that you have 12,345 posts about Dak's win record against winning teams.....not the TEAM record.

go stick your head up your own "where the sun don't shine".....you are not fooling anyone USArmyFake
 

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USArmyVet said:
Too bad members on here can't openly critique Dak when he falters instead of blaming coaching, defense, special teams, waterboy, etc. Some people can learn from Dak I suppose.
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too bad members on here can't openly credit Dak when he plays well, they credit coaching, defense, special teams, waterboy, etc. some people can learn from Dak I suppose.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I'm all for constructing criticism, but how you and others spent the entire off season ragging on Dak to now come out and say well it is all the about the team. BS sale that crap some where else. You dogged him and not man enough to stand up and say Dak is playing top football and leading this team.

When Dak has had bad games I say so but you guys do not let up, but now that he is making some here look like fools and now it is all about team and Dak is merely just driving the bus.
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USArmyVet said:
Yes, to counter those that cherry pick records and stats. The simple fact is all I am doing is offering stats just like anyone else.
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you are ignoring and dismissing stats....all summer you did the same...now all of a sudden you want people to pay attention...

nahh, you made this bed. you lie in it and take it like a man. I thought that's what they teach in the Army....integrity and manhood, neither of which you have shown...you are nothing but chicken little.
 

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phildadon86 said:
You are offering cherry picked stats. So no its not like anyone else. Everyone else uses his ENTIRE body of work. You eliminate a year when he won Rookie of the Year and won 13 games lol. Its not even close to the same thing. Its apples to bowling balls.
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he has an agenda to drive......so he has to cherry pick. his intention is not to be realistic, his intention is to prove himself right....he is lurking there...in the corner. trying to show everyone he has changed, but the ahhole is still in there. its in the genes....so as soon as we lose he will come our swinging......he can't help himself.....its who he is. gauranteed.
 
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