Do the refs really favor Packers/Steelers & scrutinize Cowboys?

[G2]

Lamb: 10.3 K fine for waving at a Patriot.

Aaron Rodgers:0.00 for yelling "I still own you" at the Bears and their fans.

Exactly. And you're being nice on what he actually said. The dude is a D-bag.

 

[sunalsorises]

Irvin’s move was the helmet slap at the line of scrimage to get off clean from the DB. I also think the trash talk move Irvin made famous was the throat slash. I tend to agree that the throat slash crosses a line.

Whose long hair made the NFL create the hair is part of the uniform rule? Was that a Cowboy?

PS. I’m not talking Irvin and the scissors to the throat. I remember him actually starting the throat slash gesture on the field.

 

[JayFord]

theyve taken away 2 qb sneak touchdowns away from us other than that officiating is horrid across the league

only time ill say they had an agenda is that year where we went about 10 straight games and offensive holding was never called on other teams against us

theres no possible way offensive holding cant be called for 10 games....Lineman hold, it would be almost impossible not to hold elite lineman can block without holding for 5 seconds after the ball is snapped which is an eternity to sit in the pocket so theyre telling me all 5 lineman were elite for 10 games?

 

[shabazz]

The Maras, Krafts and Rooney’s are respected, consulted, and cherished by the NFL

In no particular order these 4 teams have never, and will never have any penalties called against them in game winning drives.....Steelers, Packers, Giants, and Patriots

You can count on our offense having to gain 140 yards of offense to beat these teams on a last minute drive

Raiders had the same crap to deal with as well. 30 years of different players and coaches but mysteriously they led the league in penalties

And most importantly, it’s more about the timing of phantom penalties rather than the quantity

 

[nalam]

Refs may or may not be biased, but they are definitely inconsistent and downright incompetent at times lol

LOL, inconsistent one way in the same game , wink wink

 

[Ranched]

Get ready for scoffing and scolding from the forum know-it-all “realist”!

You forgot the grammar cops! So annoying. Gosh forbid a fat finger hits the wrong letter on a tiny keyboard. Must live a very secluded & lonely life.

 

[ESisback]

I don’t know. Some of these calls and the convenience of them is not a coincidence.

I refuse to believe there is never calls made that are more harsh because 1 team is pulling away and they want to keep people interested.

There is too much money at stake for the NFL to not encourage a simple throw of a flag to solve those problems.

Exactly. That is all I’m debating about. IMHO, 90% is real. The other 10% is divided somehow between human error and penalties of a speculative nature that influence games, like holding or interference or unnecessary roughness. Now, they’ve added taunting. While excessive celebrating and taunting has gone too far, necessitating rule changes, consistent fairness has yet to be worked out. JMO.

 

[xwalker]

One has to remember every fan from around the league, feels the same way, not just Dallas fans.

From what I understand, refs in general don't have any interest whatsoever. Those who do are promptly demoted or fired.

No, fans of other teams believe that the Steelers and Packers are favored by the refs.
- That is not just a Cowboys fan concept.

Review comments by fans from other teams with regards to games NOT involving their own team.
- There is a consistent theme that many fans believe specific teams are favored and specific teams are more heavily scrutinized.

 

[pete026]

I don't know about a conspiracy but it is known that certain head coaches/players will talk to refs before the game to predispose certain calls. "Hey ref, watch out for such and such, he holds by doing this".

 

[xwalker]

I do not buy into the Cowboys bias from the refs or the league.

As far as the league is concerned, the TV ratings are the Golden Goose and no team lays better eggs than the Cowboys. If anything, I could see them leaning the other direction.

I do not know why this happened but one of the reasons the Cowboys are disliked as much as they are is because of how many fans always blamed the refs for losses and that is real, I've seen that for over 50 years and it is the ultimate in whining.

Humans are fallible. Officials are human. Therefore, officials are fallible.

The speed at which these players are moving and at which the human eye moves amazes me that they can get some of those calls as they do.

The area that is always questionable are the judgment calls and those with regards to what constitutes holding and PI can be very inconsistent and actually from game to game with the same crews.

However, I do think since there is already a chip in the ball, they could activate that for TD's and remove that part of it.

I don't think that it is a conspiracy per se.

If individual refs favor or scrutinize specific teams because they believe that is what their employer prefers, it's still not a conspiracy.

IMO, it's only a conspiracy if the NFL demands that they do it.

The Cowboys draw viewers regardless of that happens.
- Controversy draws more interest.
- It is the foundation of the media. All media, not just sports media.
- Studies have concluded that the ratio or negative to positive new stories is in the range of 90% to 10%.

It would be great to see a map of where NFL refs live and where they lived during childhood years when they likely became fans of a specific NFL team.

It is well known that there is a high percentage of NFL refs from the North & specifically the North East.

That seems odd considering that it is also well known that the highest percentage of college refs are from the South.

It is logical to think that the top source of new refs for the NFL would come from the pool of college refs.

 

[Wezsh0T]

One has to remember every fan from around the league, feels the same way, not just Dallas fans.

From what I understand, refs in general don't have any interest whatsoever. Those who do are promptly demoted or fired.

I live in Seattle. The only time I've heard about ref bias here was during the one Super Bowl when Seattle was clearly jobbed. Other than that, I never hear people say anything about reffing bias against the Seahawks.

 

[CouchCoach]

Exactly. And you're being nice on what he actually said. The dude is a D-bag.

I wish the entire state of Illinois had called State Farm and cancelled their insurance with them.

 

[Hayseed]

Dez CATCH playoff game, Our first drive. Went down the field and scored with a TD pass to the fullback. Romo throws pass, count one thousand one one thousand two....Mathews takes him out late. Way late. And right at the knees. No flag. I looked at my son and said ...well, this ones over.

 

[CouchCoach]

I don't think that it is a conspiracy per se.

If individual refs favor or scrutinize specific teams because they believe that is what their employer prefers, it's still not a conspiracy.

IMO, it's only a conspiracy if the NFL demands that they do it.

The Cowboys draw viewers regardless of that happens.
- Controversy draws more interest.
- It is the foundation of the media. All media, not just sports media.
- Studies have concluded that the ratio or negative to positive new stories is in the range of 90% to 10%.

It would be great to see a map of where NFL refs live and where they lived during childhood years when they likely became fans of a specific NFL team.

It is well known that there is a high percentage of NFL refs from the North & specifically the North East.

That seems odd considering that it is also well known that the highest percentage of college refs are from the South.

It is logical to think that the top source of new refs for the NFL would come from the pool of college refs.

Not anymore than NFL coaches would all be ex college and that's actually the minority.

The concentration throughout the years for the NFL has been the Northeast and Midwest so that's where a lot of the refs come from and the NFL prefers they train their own instead of retraining college refs.

As far as personal bias, the NFL Officiating department reviews every official and every call. If they sensed a bias, we wouldn't necessarily hear about it but they would deal with it. That is a 15B shield in revenue and 4X that in team value they are protecting and calling out officials for incompetence and inconsistency is expected but bias is not. The integrity of the NFL is with those officials and do we have an idea what security measures and private investigative procedure are available to billionaires? They are not the types to get blindsided.

 

[MarcusRock]

Isn't this a thread for when we're 1-5 instead of 5-1? At least it confines the 'spiracy crew to one thread. Lol.

 

[MarcusRock]

I don’t know how anyone can watch that Patriots game last week and say that game was being officiated the same way for both teams.

I also think we’re undefeated right now had it not been for officials in week 1 deciding a close game with crucial calls and no calls.

Levontae David spiking his helmet for a no call.

2 timely holding penalties at the end when we could’ve ran the clock out and kicked a FG to end it. (Dramatics / theatre)

Jourdan Lewis thrown to the floor.

And if they call that facemask on Anthony Brown late in the game, do we win at NE?

 

[Kareemovweet]

No friggen doubt in my mind that there is a bias.. I cant believe that Jerry hasn't had some of his folks get film together after every game and sent into the field office showing it.. every game I watch I see blatant holding against the Cowboys defense and it rarely gets called.. and I know there is holding on every play for both sides, but I think there is definitely more one sided...

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I don’t know. Some of these calls and the convenience of them is not a coincidence.

I refuse to believe there is never calls made that are more harsh because 1 team is pulling away and they want to keep people interested.

There is too much money at stake for the NFL to not encourage a simple throw of a flag to solve those problems.

Nuff said.

 

[CWR]

There might really be some truth to the Packers being favored by the refs and/or the Cowboys being more scrutinized by the refs.

In another thread I speculated that McCarthy/Philbin are teaching the infamous holding technique associated with the Packers.

My question was "Are the refs calling holding on Cowboys players for using the same technique that was not penalized when Packers players used it?"

The fact that multiple NFL rules are directly attributed to specific Cowboys players supports this concept:

Mike Irvin:
The Rule: Pushing-off by receivers by allowed until Irvin became know for it.

Mike Irvin:
The Rule: Taunting. Irvin’s trash-talking spurred the NFL to ban taunting during a game.

Emmitt Smith:
The Rule: In 1997, the NFL passed a rule that prohibits a player from removing their helmet while on the field.

Deion Sanders
The Rule: A prorated portion of a player’s signing bonus would be used to count against the team’s salary cap.

Roy Williams
The Rule: In 2005, the NFL owners passed a ban on the horse-collar tackle 27-5.
Repeat offenders, like Williams, would suffer disciplinary action from the league.

Erik Williams:
The Rule: Hands to the Face (Neck): Erik Williams.

Mel Renfro:
The Rule: Tipped pass by offensive player.
Prior to this rule in 1978, a pass tipped by an offensive player could only be incomplete or intercepted.
If a ball was knocked in the air, only a defender was allowed to legally catch it.

Links:
https://whodatdish.com/2014/04/09/considerable-rule-changes-players/4/

https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports...ges-inspired-by-cowboys-players/287-426219509

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...-romo-deion-sanders-marion-barber-mel-renfro/

Was about to comment on MB3, but I see his rule change at the bottom of the last link. A lot of rules have been changed because of Cowboys

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Frankly sounds like you refuse to consider the possibility. Which is pretty stupid.

Stupid is believing there’s bias and still watching the games and complaining about the outcomes.

Do you whine about pro wrestling too?