Is anyone else tired of Parsons being a normal player?

CowboyRoy

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I said he was good going sideways and coming down hill.

He wasn’t natural doing anything that involves him going backwards or in coverage but that he obviously had the athleticism to get better at those things.

I feel like I nailed that based on what I’ve seen.

What I didn’t account for, and neither did the NFL or we wouldn’t have got him, is his impact as a pure pass rusher.

I said that Parsons has to impact the pass game to validate that pick or it’s a waste.



I had Jaelan Phillips as the top defensive prospect in the draft because of his position value and potential as a pass rusher.

You blew everything with parsons. You hated the pick and said “parsons is a one dimensional linebacker that doesn’t impact the passing game”.

I even went out of my way multiple times to education you how good he was at rushing the passer.

Another example of your inability to analyze football or admit when your wrong about it.
 

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Too be hones, he seems to "fly around" quite a bit, but I'm not seeing a whole lot of actual tackles. Kind of reminds me of someone now playing for GB...ouch!!! BTW, after today's home loss to the Illini, he may want to forget about the "Lion" thingy....hahahaha....hohohoho.....hahahaha. :muttley::muttley::muttley:
 

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Parsons is a pass rusher pretending to play linebacker.


My Martin take with the information available was the right call and I stand by it. I’m glad Steele he worked out so well but with the information available from last year and how good McGovern was it made sense to make Martin play out wide and I do not regret my opinion at all.


With that said. Steele was more of a unknown commodity.

We get to see Parsons every week and it’s clear as day where he has his biggest impact.

He’s ready right now at this very second to be one of the leagues best pass rushers and instead the Cowboys have elected to play him at linebacker and watch him be mediocre.

It's one of those times where you realize the coaches have more information available and know what they are doing.

I dont blame you for making the call though. I will say people beat up on the young tackles a little much last year considering where they came from and where they needed to get to.

I think we need to give Parsons more pass rushing opportunities.
 

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This is very very interesting.

But is it due to LVE and Neal being such liabilities in middle or that Parsons is just so much more effective at that spot.


This has been the point for the jump. Ask who's playing MLB if Parsons plays DE, and be meet with loud crickets.
 
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Has anyone else gotten tired of Dallas wasting his talents at linebacker yet and ready to watch him chase QBs again?

Could he be a great linebacker someday? Sure.. But he has a lot of growing to do.

He’s just not making a impact on games anymore and Dallas is helping out opposing offenses playing him this way.

You had legit 1 of the best edge rushers in football and now you have turned him into a mediocre linebacker that we have to hope develops into something sometime down the road.

I just don’t get it and hopefully they come to their senses soon and put him in position to be elite on the field again.

Watching Micah Parsons after the game you can tell he is frustrated with his lack of impact plays and it’s not his fault that the coaches are not putting him in a position for success.
The problem is Parsons is the only true mike lb on this roster, he is needed to stop the run on the early downs. Agree against the pass he should be rushing the QB, not playing in coverage.
 

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He is a better EDGE than LB today. However, perhaps we should consider his time playing LB this season as an investment. As the season progresses, so will he at the LB position. There's just a lot more information to digest

Besides, do we really want him stationary, predictable and gameplanned? I'm sure we haven't seen the end of his playing days as an EDGE. Better to keep the opponents guessing.
 
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I think it's difficult for a rookie to be switched around from one position to the next, without it negatively affecting his development. It's a lot to ask for any rookie to avoid hitting the rookie wall, without having to deal with such demanding expectations. Maybe he really needs to concentrate more upon one position before being asked to take on others. It seems fairly conceivable that it might hinder his development on any one thing.
 
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Before he can be really effective, Parsons must learn to play a position w/i a system.
 

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:facepalm:

Parsons is a LB, will be a LB, and needs the reps at LB at some point. Do we wait until year 5 to do that?

I'll just file this under "If the coaches don't move Martin to RT then they just don't get it" type of take.
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Alot will combine if they move him to edge and the running lanes get bigger and bigger
 

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My Martin take with the information available was the right call and I stand by it. I’m glad Steele he worked out so well but with the information available from last year and how good McGovern was it made sense to make Martin play out wide and I do not regret my opinion at all.

The road not taken, of putting Martin at RT, would have put McGovern on the field who currently has a PFF of 90+. I don't believe he would maintain that with more snaps, but despite Steele's improved play it's still unclear whether you made the wrong call initially.
 

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Parsons is a pass rusher pretending to play linebacker.


My Martin take with the information available was the right call and I stand by it. I’m glad Steele he worked out so well but with the information available from last year and how good McGovern was it made sense to make Martin play out wide and I do not regret my opinion at all.


With that said. Steele was more of a unknown commodity.

We get to see Parsons every week and it’s clear as day where he has his biggest impact.

He’s ready right now at this very second to be one of the leagues best pass rushers and instead the Cowboys have elected to play him at linebacker and watch him be mediocre.
“Information available = I watch the games on fox and then read the forums”
 

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The road not taken, of putting Martin at RT, would have put McGovern on the field who currently has a PFF of 90+. I don't believe he would maintain that with more snaps, but despite Steele's improved play it's still unclear whether you made the wrong call initially.
McGovern has only played 1 game at OG...

Even if PFF was an accurate assessment of players performance (which it is not), the performance of a player in 1 game compared to players that have started 5 or 6 games is just silly.

McGovern's performance at FB or blocking TE is not really relevant to playing OG.
 

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The vast majority of Fans don't have a clue about what impact a player actually has unless it's a sack or a TD.

Parsons is great at lb.

A linebacker is almost never going to impact a game like heat on the QB will.

You can’t compare the 2.

Pressuring the QB is far and away the most important thing a defense can do and we just so happened to stumble upon a guy that looks naturally elite at it and we got him down field trying to figure out how to cover guys.
 

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That's straight up false.

1. He IS still rushing the passer, and from all over the 0lace which is the best way to utilize him.

2. There's been enough film on him now that teams are game planning him. Why do you think Gregory is getting so many 1 on 1's despite DLaw not being out there?


It's not about getting Parsons sacks. It's about making the whole D better, and the way they're using him is opening up opportunities for other 0layers on D.

Quit looking at the stats and saying "oh he's not effective as a lb, the coaches don't know what they're doing". Watch the game and see that he HAS been effective because he's drawing so much attention that other players on D are getting 1 on 1's.
:hammer:truth......
 

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What I’m saying is the reality of the situation.

I did miss on him. So did NFL teams. Is that debatable?

Im not afraid to admit when I’m wrong but watching him play linebacker I don’t feel like I’m wrong. He’s about what I thought he would be playing that position.
You always do this. You always say "well i missed, but so did other NFL teams" You did the same thing when you said Beathard and Kaaya were more pro ready than Patrick Mahomes. Just admit you were wrong man. Why do you have such an issue doing that? Just like with Dak. Instead of saying wow i was wrong you say "well no one expected him to elevate his play to this level". Just take the L man.
 

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You always do this. You always say "well i missed, but so did other NFL teams" You did the same thing when you said Beathard and Kaaya were more pro ready than Patrick Mahomes. Just admit you were wrong man. Why do you have such an issue doing that? Just like with Dak. Instead of saying wow i was wrong you say "well no one expected him to elevate his play to this level". Just take the L man.

Yeah I’m not perfect and neither are they.

Kinda hard to be perfect when “professionals” aren’t either in the same situation.

Also, saying Kaaya and Beathards game translates better to the pro’s isn’t saying they are better.
Mac Jones game translated better to the pros than everyone drafted ahead of him last year. It doesn’t mean he should be the first QB taken. He just played in a pro style system and early on it’s definitely gave him a head start.

They played in pro style offenses.

Mahomes didn’t. He even admitted that he didn’t know how to read a NFL defense up until about a year ago.

So stop trying to find a gotchya moment and take out a pen and paper and learn from my wisdom.
 

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Yeah I’m not perfect and neither are they.

Kinda hard to be perfect when professionals are too.

Also, saying Kaaya and Beathards game translates better to the pro’s isn’t saying they are better.
Mac Jones game translated better to the pros than everyone drafted ahead of him last year. It doesn’t mean he should be the first QB taken. He just played in a pro style system and early on it’s definitely gave him a head start.

They played in pro style offenses.

Mahomes didn’t. He even admitted that he didn’t know how to read a NFL defense up until about a year ago.

So stop trying to find a gotchya moment and take out a pen and paper and learn from my wisdom.
Wisdom? LOL. Yeah. Sure thing. You may be the most narcissistic person I have ever spoken to on here. Wow. You are special man.
 

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Wisdom? LOL. Yeah. Sure thing. You may be the most narcissistic person I have ever spoken to on here. Wow. You are special man.

Lol it’s funny cause you go around quoting me like Rockport jr always whining about something. **** off how bout that.
 
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