Are we so much better than 2014, 2016, 2007?

[CowboyFrog]

So you pull the Rams game out? They just flat ran the ball down our throat. How bout the 2 losses to the Packers in 2014 and 16. It wasnt the game plan that lost those games. DeMarco Murray's fumble on what should have been a long touchdown cost us that game... not a game plan.

2016, Jeff Heath had a blind side sack on that last drive and instead of stripping the ball, he was content to get a sack. Then we know Rodgers had that 3rd and 55 to go and completed a miraculous pass. Was that game plan that cost us the game.

again its not a secret JG was outcoached, if you disagree thats fine, we disagree. But when we had injuries in the JG era..we lost ALOT. This staff has overcome injuries by gameplanning and no teams players are saying after the game "we knew what they were gonna do....everyone knows"

 

[Big_D]

wait..... I just read a few days ago Jerry still calls down to Mike and tells him what to do. Even making the decision on if Dak played against the Vikings. Isnt Mike a "Puppet?"

And you are looking at end of year results. Im comparing all these teams AFTER 7 games.

After 23 games the coach is better. D is better and more opportunistic, the player development is better on every level, the gameplan is better, the preparation and adjustments are better. Accountability better. A long term plan.. better. You talk like those 3 years were legitimate championship runs. lol After 7 games this team looks more promising than anything in those 3 "magical" seasons. Odd how some fans still brag about 2 wildcard wins? Hold it up as some sort of goal that can't be reached.

And he's not even close to being a puppet.

 

[CowboyFrog]

But that’s purely a speculative opinion. One I could see a valid argument. I’m not saying this team doesn’t look formidable. And can see they could be a tough out.

We were a tough out in those other seasons in playoffs as well coming down to last possessions.

Im not prematurely waving any SB banners yet. I see some more proven coaches, QB’s and teams awaiting in the playoffs.

In the end the result will determine final analysis.

But in one argument its "they have been there before" and again I'm saying this coach who has "been there before " is the reason im giving them the edge....JG as a coach has never been there. Compared to other Cowboys rosters in the past who had never been there either. The thread is comparing this team to other Cowboys teams. Your comparing this team to other league teams....diferent argument.

 

[Reid1boys]

Thats fine and totally within reason....the question was why would anyone give this team a better shot than the others and my reason is the coaching staff.

actually, that wasnt what the question was.

I simply said this team AFTER 7 GAMES can not be said to be better than the 3 teams I mentioned. Not if we would go further at the end of the year, not if the roster was more talented... simply comparing those teams AFTER 7 games.

 

[CowboyFrog]

actually, that wasnt what the question was.

I simply said this team AFTER 7 GAMES can not be said to be better than the 3 teams I mentioned. Not if we would go further at the end of the year, not if the roster was more talented... simply comparing those teams AFTER 7 games.

yes after 7 games this team is a better team because the coaching staff

 

[diamonddelts]

The main reasons why this team is better than any of our playoff teams since 1995..

1) The QB.. This version of Dak is better than 2016 Dak and better than any version of Romo we ever saw.
2) The secondary and backers.. Diggs gives this defense the best ballhawk it has had since Everson Walls and Parsons is the best linebacker we've had outside of peak Sean Lee. The safeties have all been solid if not spectacular.. except for Kearse.. who absolutely HAS been.. He is doing what Roy Williams used to do against the run without getting beat like a drum by tight ends like he did.
3) The pass rush.. This is a projection but I do think the combination of Lawrence and Gregory will be at least as good as Ware and Spencer and better than any other combo we've had since. Gregory is wreaking havoc very similar to what Ware was doing these days.. If we get Lawrence back healthy he would have to be considered an upgrade over Spencer.
4) The running backs.. The Zeke/Pollard tandem is better than Julius/Marion and better than Murray/Randle and no matter what people say, better than rookie Zeke by himself.
5) Last but not least, coaching.. McCarthy, Moore and Quinn is the best combination of head coach and coordinators we've had since Jimmy, Norv and Wannstedt. They give us a chance to go into any game with the possibility of having an advantage on the sideline against most anybody at one or more of the three.

They play much better without Lawrence. I hope he stays out permanently.

 

[dwmyers]

why is everyone skipping 2018 win a playoff game against Seattle and get to the 2nd round ..this is after an unlikely late run much similar to this early run..no one wants to give credit to garett or what? zeke won the rushing crown etc

explain the Omission

That team sucked on offense. Rounded to tenths, it was rated as -2.0 points per game relative to the norm.

D-

 

[Reid1boys]

After 7 games the coach is better. D is better and more opportunistic, the player development is better on every level, the gameplan is better, the preparation and adjustments are better. Accountability better. A long term plan.. better. You talk like those 3 years were legitimate championship runs. lol After 7 games this team looks more promising than anything in those 3 "magical" seasons. Odd how some fans still brag about 2 wildcard wins? Hold it up as some sort of goal that can't be reached.

And he's not even close to being a puppet.

Do you read?
Why did you put "Magical," in quotes. Not anywhere did I say that. You twist the framing of my post to suit your needs. and if you think losing 2 games on last second plays menas they were simply outplayed and outcoached by far superior teams... well, you and I disagree quite a bit.,

 

[diamonddelts]

2021 Cowboys season:

It's enough to make kings and vagabonds believe the very best.

 

[silver]

We have at least 3 impact players on defense this season as opposed to 1 or none at all during those seasons.

 

[CATCH17]

This is such a Cowboys fan post by OP.



Here.. Let me do my Cowboys fan post.

This season reminds me of 1992 when everyone thought we might be a year away and too young and we went on to win the Super Bowl…….





The truth. The past, especially the Cowboys past, is irrelevant to this team.

 

[CWR]

That 2007 team was supposed to be on the rise. Instead we got a 1 year window and then Jerry closed it immediately.

It's been awhile but if I'm remembering correctly that was the year Minnesota dominated us in the playoffs. Thier pass rush was ridiculous. Our oline got old overnight and they were never the same. I was at a fire station in Houston and my co-workers were absolutely destroying me. 24 hours with those *******s and I couldn't do anything but take it. Lol One of the worst losses I've endured. We looked so good prior to that game, only to he humiliated.

 

[Diehardblues]

But in one argument its "they have been there before" and again I'm saying this coach who has "been there before " is the reason im giving them the edge....JG as a coach has never been there. Compared to other Cowboys rosters in the past who had never been there either. The thread is comparing this team to other Cowboys teams. Your comparing this team to other league teams....diferent argument.

If you want to bring in prior coaching success then that actually works against us as no NFL HC has ever repeated for another franchise.

And yes I did introduce comparing to other teams because that brings more reality into the discussion with the hype over this team.

But If this team which you have heralded as so much better than our other playoff teams mentioned this era comes up short in similar fashion then what will that say about your insight and beliefs?

 

[zrinkill]

Those teams were one dimensional ...... This team does not appear to be.

 

[CowboyFrog]

If you want to bring in prior coaching success then that actually works against us as no NFL HC has ever repeated for another franchise.

And yes I did introduce comparing to other teams because that brings more reality into the discussion with the hype over this team.

But If this team which you have heralded as so much better than our other playoff teams mentioned this era comes up short in similar fashion then what will that say about your insight and beliefs?

It depends on how and what happens....Again if you think there is no diference between those coaching staffs and this one thats fine....Its not hard to take the odds and say "they will probably lose in the playoffs" as there will only be one winner and those are good odds. But I think right now this staff puts this team above those other teams.

 

[Doomsday101]

This is such a Cowboys fan post by OP.



Here.. Let me do my Cowboys fan post.

This season reminds me of 1992 when everyone thought we might be a year away and too young and we went on to win the Super Bowl…….





The truth. The past, especially the Cowboys past, is irrelevant to this team.

I agree what you did 5 years ago or last season is irrelevant and has no bearing on the outcome of a game being played now. Thing about football unlike the other major sports, it is a 1 game winner take all, there is no series you win and move on or you go home.

 

[Big_D]

Do you read?
Why did you put "Magical," in quotes. Not anywhere did I say that. You twist the framing of my post to suit your needs. and if you think losing 2 games on last second plays menas they were simply outplayed and outcoached by far superior teams... well, you and I disagree quite a bit.,

Far superior? Yet you talk like those 3 teams were superior to this team. lol Far superior due to coaching, an ability to build a complete roster plus all those things I mentioned earlier. That's what makes this team better. Forgot to add confidence. Another key ingredient that was missing during the Garrett years. I could've told you in August how things would go while some were still delusional enough to think they had a real shot. No Hope was absolutely the case here. Another major difference. Very odd how you devalue the importance of coaching. You'll never see it if you don't see it already.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is such a Cowboys fan post by OP.



Here.. Let me do my Cowboys fan post.

This season reminds me of 1992 when everyone thought we might be a year away and too young and we went on to win the Super Bowl…….





The truth. The past, especially the Cowboys past, is irrelevant to this team.

Depends on what context you want to use.

In this thread we are comparing the expectations and potential results . I think some fans only want to use this season and not where we stood going into playoffs . Twice as #1 seeds we definitely were considered contenders.

And going down to last possession in all of those divisional playoff games with an opportunity to advance to championship game is certainly a comparison that could be made to the expectations and potential results .

 

[CATCH17]

Depends on what context you want to use.

In this thread we are comparing the expectations and potential results . I think some fans only want to use this season and not where we stood going into playoffs . Twice as #1 seeds we definitely were considered contenders.

And going down to last possession in all of those divisional playoff games with an opportunity to advance to championship game is certainly a comparison that could be made to the expectations and potential results .

That isn’t strictly a Dallas Cowboys thing.

But this is the fan base that if you say Tony Pollard is good they’ll tell you about Troy Hambrick or something bizarre.

 

[blueblood70]

That team sucked on offense. Rounded to tenths, it was rated as -2.0 points per game relative to the norm.

D-

sucked lol we had the rushing leader and dak and new shiny toy in cooper.,.that not sucking somehow the word suck doesn't apply to 2nd round playoff loss by 8 points on the road to the eventual sb representative for the NFC..

sorry man we didn't suck it was an illusion because we were horrible the first 8 games got Coop and went on fire..last 8 games and the playoff are all that counts and 2018 was close to the best Garett year he had..the last 8 were like the first 7 this year and btw we al know its how you finish not how you stat and somehow gloating over 6-1 in 17 game season as if we already made it..

well step back..reality's is we messed up 2019 late back half and we could mess this up..

do better research part 1 2018 bad, part 2 great...