glimmerman
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Was a fumble. Dak would have screwed the pooch or won the game. We never got the chance to see but not the first time they do this..
You are unsurprising.I'd name call too if I couldn't overcome by knowledge. Thus, not surprising.
You are unsurprising.
That really is a dumb NFL rule. You should be able to challenge with or without timeouts. Many teams. See Tampa Bay, like to use their timeouts on defense before the 2 minute warning.This play was outside of 2 minutes. We could have challenged if we had a timeout. We had none because we had to burn them being confused and stuff.
Here's the REAL review rule, not something someone tries to shoehorn into a reviewable play that isn't. Highlights in red.
RULE 15 INSTANT REPLAY
SECTION 1 INITIATING A REPLAY REVIEW
ARTICLE 2. REPLAY OFFICIAL REQUEST FOR REVIEW. Only the Replay Official or the Senior Vice President of Officiating
or his or her designee may initiate a review of a play:
(a) that begins after the two-minute warning of each half;
(b) throughout any overtime period;
(c) when points are scored by either team;
(d) that is a Try attempt (successful or unsuccessful); and
(e) when on-field officials rule:
(1) an interception by an opponent;Such plays may be reviewed regardless of whether a foul is committed on the play that, if accepted, would negate the on-field
(2) a fumble or backward pass recovered by an opponent or that goes out of bounds through the opponent’s end zone;
(3) a scrimmage kick touched by the receiving team and recovered by the kicking team; or
(4) a disqualification of a player.
ruling.
The Replay Official may only challenge a play until the next legal snap or kick. The Replay Official may consult with a
designated member of the Officiating department at the league office regarding whether to challenge a play.
Just admit you were wrong. It's pretty obvious. Not hard to man up.I know you are but what am I?
Just admit you were wrong. It's pretty obvious. Not hard to man up.
Seems clear here but Article 9 adds confusion and doesn't appear to be well written.
Just admit you were wrong. It's pretty obvious. Not hard to man up.
Article 2 clearly states that the Replay Official initiates the review. Article 9 appears to be cases where the Officials need assistance to manage something in a game and is not initiated by the Replay Official. On this play, the refs ruled down by contact so they were not in need of assistance or clarification. If a team is in doubt, they can challenge which is why there's that wording at the end of Article 9. Confusing yes (just ask JBS), but it seems clear-ish to me.
My question is could we have challenged within the last 2 minutes. I thought a team couldn't because it is automatically reviewed in the booth.
As I showed you in the Game Thread, delay of game has an extra second built into it. We've benefitted from it as well. Here's the link .... again.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...echanics-have-an-extra-second-or-so-built-in/
I'm not wrong. Read the rules I posted. Rational trumps emotion in these cases.
I do appreciate what you bring to the board, but do you get tired of being the "well actually" guy to your own fanbase?
Nope. I'm about truth and anti-whining which means I get a lot of opportunities. I don't even take them all. Lol.