Finally got to watch this game and this game was not on Dak

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He wasn't in the throwing lane. Dak had a clear view of the WR. The blitzer lunges with his arm to reach the throw but Dak has a clear view. He takes the snap, quickly tries to throw it out, the blitzer lunges but isn't even close to Dak or the throw. Baker is actually still moving towards the line before Dak even snaps the ball. He got a running start on the play.

You make it sound like there is a defender running straight at him, which is false. When Dak turns to make the throw, the blitzer isn't near him and Dak has a clear view of the WR bunch.
Dak was never looking towards the 3 WR set until he received the snap. Hard for any QB to guess a Safety is going to read the play and jump the pass at that moment.
 

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Dak - as awesome a guy as he is - has always seemed to require optimal conditions (i.e., a top-flight roster) to perform on an average level. Looking like a deer-in-the-headlights for huge swaths of this season...especially when playing from behind. Not to mention that he gets no help from an O-line with a clueless center (no Mark Stepnoski) and less-than-predicted uptick from the much-awaited return of Tyron Smith. The team looking very much (this week) like the runt of the litter & a one-and-done in the playoffs. Perhaps there's a sports psychologist somewhere who might be able to navigate Dak through what appears to be a persistent crisis of confidence (it ain't the calf, fellas).
 

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Against a bandwagon jumper? Are you serious?

At least the hardcore Dak haters have always hated Dak. You, you jump on then off without any integrity. Now you want to bet? Go play games with other flip-floppers.
You are a bigger troll than Pappy.
 

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Wrong.

Batted and tipped passes most definitely are not on a QB. IT'S ON THE OLINE.

Ask anyone who has played on the Oline.

Wrong! It can be on Oline but there is a reason shorter QBs used to be a nono in drafts. There are also guys who are known to have motions proned to batting. It’s why Rodgers and Mahomes adjust arm angle on so many throws. Look at one of Rodgers TDs tonight where he side armed it.

Stop just being Dak homers. Many of us like the guy but watch a game and think “bad game.” He’s had 3-4 in the last 5 weeks. It happens

"I believe batted passes are a shared responsibility," Hasselbeck said. "The quarterback has to find passing lanes. The offensive line and the guys in pass protection have to do a good job of getting defensive linemen and linebackers' hands down."
 
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Ya'll haters are crazy with hate.

This game was not on Dak. If anything, Dak kept us in this game.

I counted 5 batted balls and 2 drops. That is 7 of his 14 incompletes for the game.

There were 2 passes I would deem bad by him. 2.

His fumble in the 2nd to last drive...it sucks, but it happens and was a great play by the defender. I am more happy that he ran the way he did making people miss (more than Zeke did all game) and not afraid of his leg. If that 22 yard run didn't get called back, he had 2 less yards running than Kyler that you all think is the 2nd coming.

THis game was not on him but here is what was the cause of the loss:

  • The total lack of a running game and threat of the run. Just anemic. No one respects Zeke as he is clearly hurt.
  • Horrible penalties. Many advantageous 3rd downs turned into much more difficult 3rd downs.
  • Another crushing missed chip shot fg.
  • Jayron dropping that gimme pick in the end zone.
  • The HORRIBLE non-fumble call on a clear fumble at the end of the game. The defense finally made a play and the refs screw us. We last saw the ball with over 4 min left...never get it back. Clearly this is Dak's Fault.

You guys are all dejected and blaming our QB but I am encouraged. I see us beating them in the playoffs. I really do. I expect our defense to clamp them down even more and I expect our offense to not shoot themselves in the foot like they did today.
..you tell em', Ken. They wont listen, Dak will be whipped and tied to horse, to be dragged around. ;)..
 
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Batted passes are on the qb....where did this lunacy come from?

Skipping balls left and right? No.

Yes they are at times.

https://es.pn/2bzlBLD

Hasselback says it’s a shared responsibility with QBs finding lanes and lines keeping hands down. But keep living in fantasy land

"I believe batted passes are a shared responsibility," Hasselbeck said. "The quarterback has to find passing lanes. The offensive line and the guys in pass protection have to do a good job of getting defensive linemen and linebackers' hands down."
 
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He wasn't in the throwing lane. Dak had a clear view of the WR. The blitzer lunges with his arm to reach the throw but Dak has a clear view. He takes the snap, quickly tries to throw it out, the blitzer lunges but isn't even close to Dak or the throw. Baker is actually still moving towards the line before Dak even snaps the ball. He got a running start on the play.

You make it sound like there is a defender running straight at him, which is false. When Dak turns to make the throw, the blitzer isn't near him and Dak has a clear view of the WR bunch.

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Here is a photo...he is clearly blocking Dak's view of Buddah. Keep in mind all pf this happens in like a second. Dak had to trust that the TE blocked Buddah but they didnt.
 

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Yes they are at times.

https://es.pn/2bzlBLD

Hasselback says it’s a shared responsibility with QBs finding lanes and lines keeping hands down. But keep living in fantasy land

"I believe batted passes are a shared responsibility," Hasselbeck said. "The quarterback has to find passing lanes. The offensive line and the guys in pass protection have to do a good job of getting defensive linemen and linebackers' hands down."
I mean...sure...qbs manuever to try and get a clean pass off but you can't help if a guy is going to sit back and wait for you to throw to bat it. Like Dlaw last week...that wasn't on the qb...it was just a great play.

If it is the qbs responsibility...Dak must be great at it because batted passes rarely happen to him. Today was an exception that i can remember.
 

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One fact the OP is missing is Dallas got outplayed on both sides of the ball. Arizona's defensive line was disruptive in the run game and got pressure on Dak and when they didn't they were batting balls down and drawing holding penalties.

I think there is plenty of blame to go around but let's be realistic this team is far too sloppy to win 4 games in a row vs playoff-caliber teams.
 

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I mean...sure...qbs manuever to try and get a clean pass off but you can't help if a guy is going to sit back and wait for you to throw to bat it. Like Dlaw last week...that wasn't on the qb...it was just a great play.

If it is the qbs responsibility...Dak must be great at it because batted passes rarely happen to him. Today was an exception that i can remember.

Listen I’m not even here to debate batted passes. Overall he was not good until the 4th. Again I’m a fan. It’s not a sin. He was part of many problems today…him, Oline, play calling(no run game) etc. I said this during the game but I always had confidence he’d make plays. I’m losing that as he seems to have some confidence issues
 

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One fact the OP is missing is Dallas got outplayed on both sides of the ball. Arizona's defensive line was disruptive in the run game and got pressure on Dak and when they didn't they were batting balls down and drawing holding penalties.

I think there is plenty of blame to go around but let's be realistic this team is far too sloppy to win 4 games in a row vs playoff-caliber teams.
I mean...i believe that is my point in general. It isn't all on Dak, there were many issues the team had in this game. While not Dak's best game, it was a good game with some issues.

The only thing I am concerned with is our running game. That is it.

I also don't think we will get it resolved so it may be our undoing. Unless they sit Zeke next week in hopes that he recoups a little...we don't have a running game we can count on. Unless we use him extremely sparingly and lean on Pollard and Clements...i just don't see it.
 

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Listen I’m not even here to debate batted passes. Overall he was not good until the 4th. Again I’m a fan. It’s not a sin. He was part of many problems today…him, Oline, play calling(no run game) etc
It is ridiculous that we have to debate who's fault a batted pass is. Only when everyone pins literally everything on the qb are we forced to have these ridiculous conversations.

I assure you, you will never hear me blame a qb, even Wentz lol, for a strip-sack while throwing (unless they hold onto it forever) or a batted pass.
 

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Wrong! It can be on Oline but there is a reason shorter QBs used to be a nono in drafts. There are also guys who are known to have motions proned to batting. It’s why Rodgers and Mahomes adjust arm angle on so many throws. Look at one of Rodgers TDs tonight where he side armed it.

Stop just being Dak homers. Many of us like the guy but watch a game and think “bad game.” He’s had 3-4 in the last 5 weeks. It happens

"I believe batted passes are a shared responsibility," Hasselbeck said. "The quarterback has to find passing lanes. The offensive line and the guys in pass protection have to do a good job of getting defensive linemen and linebackers' hands down."
Wrong!

3 of Dak's 5 batted passes WERE THROWN IN PASSING LANES. The Oline and RBs have to do a better job of knocking the defenders on their ***** whenever they jump up or swat their hands into a passing lane. Make those defenders fall awkward and possibly tear up a knee, etc.

Dak is not short. He's 6' 2.5", and he has changed his throwing motion over the years to help throw over taller Dlinemen.

It's ok to blame the blocking up front, instead of the QB all of the time. Stop being lazy.
 

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Was told our FG kicker was good.

The Dallas FO failed miserably to replace Zuerlein when the occasion called for it. They totally lack a workable knowledge of how to field a Super Bowl team. They've proven as much for the last several decades. That's not likely to change anytime soon. A capable GM could change that, if only they were willing to hire one and leave him to do whatever was required. Jerry wouldn't hear of it and it's anyone's guess if Stephen would, either. It's sad. o_O
 
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All batted balls were daks fault? cmon guys. he wasn’t great but let’s not exaggerate.
 

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One fact the OP is missing is Dallas got outplayed on both sides of the ball. Arizona's defensive line was disruptive in the run game and got pressure on Dak and when they didn't they were batting balls down and drawing holding penalties.

I think there is plenty of blame to go around but let's be realistic this team is far too sloppy to win 4 games in a row vs playoff-caliber teams.
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Speaking of batter balls, I wonder how other teams are going to try and utilize that tactic moving forward after watching the film.
 

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The Cardinals were simply better than the Cowboys. At least yesterday.

It was pretty obvious.

I don't think you can point the finger at any one person and draw any conclusions from that.
 
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