Twitter: Broaddus: MM refused to help KM with postseason offense

DandyDon52

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This is misleading.....if mm was asked by a reporter will you help out the offense in the playoffs because Of the recent slump and he responds “no that’s kellens job” that’s not him refusing to help. Lol. Him refusing to help would be Kellen asking him and him saying no.

broaddus is playing very loose with this.
true and I doubt kellen would ask for help.
Also it would be hard to just jump in at that point and correct an offense that is all messed up,I mean you have 1 week to correct a bunch of stuff,
and kellen might not want to go along with those corrections.

Thing is jerry set this up in a weird messy way, so now it is a mess.
 

DandyDon52

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Also and this is just IMO
The REAL HC is Jerry, he is the big boss and HC.
Mike is Asst HC, does the pressers, and manages games.
Kellen is Off HC and OC , play caller Play designer.
Dan is Def HC total control of Def
Fossil HC of ST , he decides when to run a fake punt , onside kick, or block a punt or kick.

Mike has no control over any of these coaches, he cant fire them or hire a new one, he would have to ask Jerry to do that , and Jerry would then say no or ok.

So Mike isnt really a HC, the team has 4 HC's all who answer to Jerry.
They are not a TEAM of coaches, they are individuals who only answer to jerry.

It is inefficient, and a mess, but this is how jerry likes it.

This affects the players too, they have no reason to listen to mike or be motivated by him or fear him.
They listen to their HC, kellen dan or fossil, and even then they know jerry is the real boss.
So it is hard to motivate the players, as they all know they dont have to fear any of the coaches. So only jerry could motivate them, and he doesnt know how to do that.
And as a general rule jerry just tells them they are great lol.

And if they lose big game, they just say well we have to get better, and then everything is ok.
 
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MM did what he was told to do. It really is that simple.

He said that is KM's job. KM works for Jerry. So does MM.

What questions do you have?
 

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true and I doubt kellen would ask for help.
Also it would be hard to just jump in at that point and correct an offense that is all messed up,I mean you have 1 week to correct a bunch of stuff,
and kellen might not want to go along with those corrections.

Thing is jerry set this up in a weird messy way, so now it is a mess.
We been *** up for more than one week.
 

SteveTheCowboy

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well sure, but mike cant interfere with kellen, kellen would have to ask for help, and I dont see kellen doing that.
If he doesnt ask then thats it.
Then Mike needs fired. And Kellen.

In fact I demand it.

I don't care if Jerry told him not to interfere. I don't care if Kellen didn't ask for help.

Clearly...problems Mike is incapable of fixing. In fact if I were him I'd quit and tell everyone why.

I guess that's why he got hired to begin with. No balls?
 

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if MM did, then not sure I would be upset with him...you bring in a coach. you let him make his decisions, if it doesn't work, then you hold him responsible. but you can't say I am going to bring you in, here is your OC and he reports to me and leave him alone. he did that with Wade/Garrett and see how that turned out.....
I get where you’re coming from, but that’s the environment MM agreed to when hired. The HC is ultimately responsible (well, maybe quasi-responsible in this circus) and purposely failing to provide one of your subordinates assistance so he would fail is a failure in and of itself. And a terrible miscalculation of Jerry’s commitment to his pets. MM or KM? MM would be the loser.
 

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Kellen goes to Jerry for help on Xs and Os. It’s quite apparent by their performance on the field
 

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Fat Mike didn’t like being told he had to keep wonder boy when he got hired so he let the kid sink or swim on his own.

Such a well run organization, LMAO
 

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My understanding it's not unusual for head coaches to give their coordinators complete control but if something not working, the buck stops with him. So this take by MM is a bit surprising.




Sounds like he is threatened by KM, due to Jerry, and would rather see KM fail by himself so Jerry can see he is not Boy Wonder, but Boy Blunder. Dammmm, risks letting his own team lose the game, which they of course did. Both these knuckle heads gotta go, but in Jones fashion.....both will be back.
 

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Oh great. Yet another media head who thinks he knew what was said on the sidelines.
 

DandyDon52

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In fact if I were him I'd quit and tell everyone why.

I guess that's why he got hired to begin with. No balls?
LOL So you would quit a job that pays 6 mil a year??????/:huh::thumbup:

Also he cant tell all, as in their contracts is a non talk about inside workings clause.
 

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Can anyone tell me that Jerry and Stephen didn't have a hand in this? Everyone wants to keep blaming McCarthy and yet there are several rumors out there where Jerry demanded that L'ael Collins be played over Steele because he was being paid. Just consider that, a GM who demands that a player be played not because he was playing better but because he was paid.
 

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Here something we don't know.......just speculating but can we say for sure MM didn't approach KM and KM brushed him off or didn't listen? Hell, it seems even Jerry and Stephen aren't on the same page. I mean, Stephen gave MM rock solid endorsement but Jerry refused to whether or not he was coming back.
 

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With Jerry in control, this head coaching job will only attract desperate actors or old school romantics that still see the Dallas Cowboys as the premier franchise.
The romantics are dead or dying. There’s never a shortage of desperate actors in this league but they undermine any perceived threat to their job status. They’re desperate after all.
Whoever it was that said this franchise is doomed until one of Stephen Jones weekly duties is putting flowers on Jerry’s grave is right. And that presumes a silver spoon-fed child of privilege has the adequate self-regard to know his place isn’t in the on-field football side of things.
 

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Stuff like this is why I don't think MM is cut out for this job. Why are you letting your ship go down without trying to fix it? You're a offensive mind right? It goes back to his hiring of MIke Nolan...why would you let Mike Nolan ruin your first season? I just don't understand.

Luuuulz, this fake Nick Cannon lovin’ dork was McCarthy’s biggest defender all through this thread.

Now he’s trying to distance himself.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/winning-in-spite-of-mccarthy.485050/
 

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Maybe he wants a different coordinator?

Maybe that's what Jerry told him. The coordinators call the plays, you be a satellite HC.
 

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That is not like Mike. He was given orders from someone else. I know the coordinators all had reponsibilities at Green Bay and he was always involved. The only way he was not helping KM was that he was told not to and if he did he would be fired.
 
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