Potential veteran cuts

[quickccc]

I strongly believe Gregory returns and DLaw is going to have to accept a pay cut or he will be gone. I'm on the fence with Cooper, my gut tells me he is playing elsewhere next season after recent developments.

So what's your game plan for replacing Dlaw ?..... Especially as we're in such a win- it -now mode ?

 

[Cowboyny]

So what's your game plan for replacing Dlaw ?..... Especially as we're in such a win- it -now mode ?

I think their plan is to try to keep both he and Gregory, but if they are unable to restructure/extend DLaw's deal, he will likely be gone. We know how the Cowboys work under Stephen, if DLaw is gone, they will sign a veteran stop gap and draft a future replacement. Believe releasing him would create 8 million of cap space and could be more if a June 1st cut.

 

[Cowboyny]

Lawrence and cooper simply aren’t worth the money. If we can move on and get huge savings that can be used elsewhere then we should. Jarwin and brown we should definitely move on.

I think they value Brown over Lewis as he is the better nickel slot guy and can play on the outside. Jarwin is interesting as it looks like Shultz has priced himself out. Do they gut the entire room at the position?

 

[Cowboyny]

Re: ...It helps Steele to have double team help, chip help, scheme help and committed to running the ball - less exposure

Whereas this tactic helped Steele become a decent fill in, - the lack of development with Steele at LT, .failures of both the Conners, Dak running for his life and having to quickly get the ball out vs rush so often and the lack of a run game, doesn't hold well for Philibin as an OL coach, ..he and this particular zone scheme wasn't an upgrade over Columbo's scheme and his OL unit performance.

I agree, think Steele is more tied to Philbin as he appears to really like the player. A new OL coach will probably see otherwise.

 

[quickccc]

I agree, think Steele is more tied to Philbin as he appears to really like the player. A new OL coach will probably see otherwise.

Or a Marc Columbo may see just the same as a Philibin,

- Just depends upon the OL coach - coaches are there with him on and off the field, they see work ethic, ..effort,.. motivation,.how much they work hard in the offseason strength program and film room
. they observe their ability to bounce back mentally from lapses... how they respond to coaching,.. how they keep up with techniques,..
some players are quick learners while some need more on hand tutoring.
- That's the individual basis,,

- In terms of Position Role - some OL coaches may see this or that player position role as a flex utility that can be placed both outside or inside, OT and OG,
..while another OL coach is set in his ways with prototype and measurements that will only see a certain player as an interior guy,
..and Not an option such as outside OT such as Connor Williams who was an exceptional collegiate OT, but did not fare so well as a flex emergency center.

 

[jnday]

With Lael Collins:

- I don’t understand why Collins would fall into your prediction as a cut-casualty. Why would you cut your best starting RT? … just for the sake of saving money ?
And that’s a guy that can also factor and play both OT and OG.
What does still remain with me with Lael, is why he is currently starting at RT, I'm still not sure if he is a natural RT.

- Steele is a luxury as being a utility backup guy, but he can only factor the best as a fill in RT.
And that’s what Steele is, imo….a fill-in backup RT, ..and one that you have to scheme-fit for best effectiveness at that.

He’s serviceable enuff to let you get by, but as a 16 game starter that’s asked to one up vs better edge rushers on a frequent basis thru entire games, you’d be
overwhelming him and ourselves.
That’s a Jeremy Parnell only status quo.

Collins has come into camp out of shape, which caused his injuries and it was well known that his efforts in practice and games have been horrible.

 

[conner01]

D-Law and Elliot and likely Elliot will be restructures. Kicking the can a little but needed. Maybe some other. We have to get the cap down. Need money to pay some others. Some will walk. We will lose talent but hoping to regain through players we have that should come up. Ball was injured but supposed to be good. We will draft some talent. We will be ok..

I would not restructure Zeke
But you really have no choice but restructure some guys
Dlaw is a possibility but I think Dak is an almost certainty

 

[quickccc]

Collins has come into camp out of shape, which caused his injuries and it was well known that his efforts in practice and games have been horrible.

You're talking about last year in 2020, that's dead and gone and behind in the rear view mirror by now . ..but he rebounded to playing himself back into form after the suspension.

 

[Teague31]

Cut everyone not named Micah Parsons, Zack Martin or Trevon Diggs.

 

[freemanjc19]

I think most of us forgot what Dak looks like without a legit Number 1 WR. This is the reason Jerry went after Coop. I don't see him being replaced until they have another option for a 1WR. Just my thought.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think they value Brown over Lewis as he is the better nickel slot guy and can play on the outside. Jarwin is interesting as it looks like Shultz has priced himself out. Do they gut the entire room at the position?

We have the two youngsters from last years draft. 2nd and 3rd rounders that should be starting this year. Joseph should be much better than brown. They probably keep one veteran between brown our slot guy. Can’t afford not to play young high picks these days. Need to sure up 2 oline positions this year with new starters. Hopefully first round pick and front line starter in FA. We need an all around te that can block and catch.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think most of us forgot what Dak looks like without a legit Number 1 WR. This is the reason Jerry went after Coop. I don't see him being replaced until they have another option for a 1WR. Just my thought.

lamb is already the new #1. Lol

I guess you haven’t watched the team in two years. Must have missed that.

 

[glimmerman]

I would not restructure Zeke
But you really have no choice but restructure some guys
Dlaw is a possibility but I think Dak is an almost certainty

Yeah I see Dak happening. I think Elliot did last season.. D-Law maybe because it’s a big hit this season. They will turn some of there’s into a signing bonus. Sweet little check..

 

[Cowboyny]

We have the two youngsters from last years draft. 2nd and 3rd rounders that should be starting this year. Joseph should be much better than brown. They probably keep one veteran between brown our slot guy. Can’t afford not to play young high picks these days. Need to sure up 2 oline positions this year with new starters. Hopefully first round pick and front line starter in FA. We need an all around te that can block and catch.

Tight End to me is a priority need. Assuming Shultz leaves, I think they will sign a veteran, but also draft a future starter. Top 3 pick very possible or early day 3 like Shultz. Heard they also really like McKeon.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Tight End to me is a priority need. Assuming Shultz leaves, I think they will sign a veteran, but also draft a future starter. Top 3 pick very possible or early day 3 like Shultz. Heard they also really like McKeon.

Cant have a good run game without quality blocking tes.

 

[Cowboyny]

Cant have a good run game without quality blocking tes.

I agree, but harder to find these days as the TE position in college are oversized receivers.

 

[Verdict]

Moving away from the Sean Payton talk, let's try to project which veterans could be cut in the offseason and have a follow up discussion on projecting whom they resign.

Potential Veteran Cuts

Zeke-he isn't going anywhere this offseason, but there is an out in his contract after next yr. It would be wise not to restructure his deal.

Amari Cooper-there is an out in his contract this offseason. I believe they save 16 million if released. You would think the decision is to keep Cooper or pay Gallup and Wilson.

Collins-there is an out in his contract as well. Believe it's upwards of over 10 million in savings. With the emergence of Steele, you would think Collins has played his last game in Dallas.

Tyron Smith-extremely frustrating player. When he plays, he is still a top 5 Tackle in this league, but he cannot be counted on to play more then 10 games a year. Think until he plays falls off, they will continue to manage him.

DLaw-there is no chance he plays on the 27 million cap number this season. He missed the majority of the season and is now over 30. Either they look to rework his contract or he will be released. Did say after the 49ers game, he doesn't back to come back. In the heat of the moment, but it is very possible he is done here.

I am sorry, but you are dreaming of you still think Tyron is playing at a top 5 level. That is just not remotely true.

 

[conner01]

Tight End to me is a priority need. Assuming Shultz leaves, I think they will sign a veteran, but also draft a future starter. Top 3 pick very possible or early day 3 like Shultz. Heard they also really like McKeon.

Haven’t looked at this years draft class much but doesn’t appear to be much at TE and because it’s weak at QB, other positions are gonna get thinned out early
Does appear to be solid at oline and not terribly bad at LB

 

[stilltheguru]

I think most of us forgot what Dak looks like without a legit Number 1 WR. This is the reason Jerry went after Coop. I don't see him being replaced until they have another option for a 1WR. Just my thought.

That's any qb without a 1wr by the way.

 

[Cowboyny]

Haven’t looked at this years draft class much but doesn’t appear to be much at TE and because it’s weak at QB, other positions are gonna get thinned out early
Does appear to be solid at oline and not terribly bad at LB

I haven't started by draft prep yet, but heard it's a strong TE class.