Does anyone think Dak is better than Romo was?

[Aviano90]

Here we go with that “If Romo had this and that” bs. Romo had some good solid teams and he didn’t win anything worth noting. So again. Please explain how he was clutch.

Romo was clutch against 3-13 type teams but if a receiver dropped a pass in the 3rd quarter in the playoffs, was game over.

 

[GORICO]

Here we go with that “If Romo had this and that” bs. Romo had some good solid teams and he didn’t win anything worth noting. So again. Please explain how he was clutch.

might i remind you of Sept 2015 against the Giants...down by 6 with a little over a minute and no timeouts...Romo from own 25 led them all the way down to a 20 yard bullet to Jason Witten in endzone

then unfotunately Romo had clavicle broken game two against Philly....team ended 6-10....Romo he my quarterback ( tears like T.O. )...but i love Dak too...watched him greatly improve footwork and

mechanics except Dak still has a windmill throwing motion that is slow and causes release point of ball difficult to control...that is why sometimes too high or in the dirt.....he needs Kitna to help him

develop maybe not a 3/4 delivery but not 180 degrees either...Dak has to have footwork hips and throwing motion perfect to be accurate....he cannot throw from different angles like Mahommes or

JOsh Allen or Rogers...but Dak has improved greatly throwing ball every year since 2019 since he first worked with Kitna...maybe since his arms so are so big he does not have flexibility?...not sure

but i trust Dak will begin season as usual on fire hitting every cylinder...and when he realizes how to be 2 safety soft shell that denver did and then everyone copied he will be upper tier again...but this is only my lowly

opinion in a forum room....no one cares what i think

 

[GORICO]

A couple of years back, I was watching some of the old games with Staubach and there were playoff games where the defense and running game absolutely carried him and then there were other games where he absolutely came through when the team needed him to. If the defense and running game had failed in those games where Staubach wasn't playing great, I don't know if he would have risen to the occasion or if Dallas would have just lost and we wouldn't have ended up with some of our Super Bowl titles.

Prescott was one of many who did not play well enough in this game, but he did play well enough in the playoff game against Green Bay if other parts had come through. Romo did the same in his playoff game against Green Bay (and a couple of other playoff games). There have been other QBs who did not play great (just look at Garoppolo's stats against Green Bay, 11-19, 57.1 percent, 131 yards, 0 TDs, 1 int.), but won playoff games or even Super Bowls because their defense/running games/special teams did.

We tend to look far too much at success/wins in judging QBs and it's not really a fair measure because they are only a piece of the winning puzzle. Sometimes they can be a big piece and sometimes they are a small piece.

but if you to to utube and google Kurt Warner QB breakdown of dallas against SF in wild card...it was mostly Dak is why we lost...hesitant , not seeing the field, unable to throw receivers open...missing open receivers

holding ball too long...its like 2017 all over again...this occured after calf injury and when Denver realized they dont need to load box cause we cant run and kept 2 safety high and 7 to cover 3 receivers and Moore

did not help him to overcome it and McCarthey did not help Moore to help Dak....if we would had Sean Payton Dak would have known what to look for and where to go with ball....this is why Jerry so ticked at

Fat Mike.....uhhh uhhh ya...i guess we got stuff to look at in offseason....Jerry said why aint you doing it "in season"...because you hired fat Mike who cannot either discipline his team not to foul or manage clock

Jerry did not let him pick OC 2 years ago and after last years horrble debacle did not let fat Mike pick DC either....just do clock managment and discipline during week and Mike failed at both...but he is enough of

a puppet Jerry keeps him around until he can get Payton next year or elevate Quinn and he is also paying Quinn HC monies this year to stay...McCarthey is lame duck coach and it could have negative affects

on lockeroom....cause everyone knows...McCarthey does not outcoach the guy across from him...we just play infeiror teams...and when good teams come we lose usually...Quad Plat Guarantee this is last

year of McCarthey....they know he is not very good...we have good under coaches and good-great players

 

[Buzzbait]

The Romo versus Dak argument is moot.

Truth. It's a senseless, meaningless war of words. I was a Romo fan in his day, but when it was time for him to go, it was time to go. But some people will just never let it go. I liked him, but Romo was not elite, and neither is Dak. Bottom line.

 

[Motorola]

might i remind you of Sept 2015 against the Giants...down by 6 with a little over a minute and no timeouts...Romo from own 25 led them all the way down to a 20 yard bullet to Jason Witten in endzone

then unfotunately Romo had clavicle broken game two against Philly....team ended 6-10....Romo he my quarterback ( tears like T.O. )...but i love Dak too...watched him greatly improve footwork and

mechanics except Dak still has a windmill throwing motion that is slow and causes release point of ball difficult to control...that is why sometimes too high or in the dirt.....he needs Kitna to help him

develop maybe not a 3/4 delivery but not 180 degrees either...Dak has to have footwork hips and throwing motion perfect to be accurate....he cannot throw from different angles like Mahommes or

JOsh Allen or Rogers...but Dak has improved greatly throwing ball every year since 2019 since he first worked with Kitna...maybe since his arms so are so big he does not have flexibility?...not sure

but i trust Dak will begin season as usual on fire hitting every cylinder...and when he realizes how to be 2 safety soft shell that denver did and then everyone copied he will be upper tier again...but this is only my lowly opinion in a forum room....no one cares what i think

'GORICO' - your opinion is welcome here because you take the time to elaborate on your views.
Other CZ members can agree or disagree...it's what makes the forum.

 

[Typhus]

Two very different quarterbacks. Better hall. Prescott doesn’t Choke. Romo saw the field better. I’ll take Prescott any day over Romo

Prescott doesn't choke...
Dak might go down as even being a bigger choker than McNabb.

 

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https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4691075/troy-aikman-tony-romo-better-than-i-was

vs Quincy Carter 2.0 (just kidding....mostly)

 

[Aviano90]

Truth. It's a senseless, meaningless war of words. I was a Romo fan in his day, but when it was time for him to go, it was time to go. But some people will just never let it go. I liked him, but Romo was not elite, and neither is Dak. Bottom line.

Both QBs are good enough to be able to use excuses for why a team could have theoretically won if several other things would have been different. Neither are good enough to overcome mistakes to make a deep playoff run, let alone win it all. Our high powered offense typically shrivels up when the season is on the line and has for many years.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I was livid when Romo wasn't even given a chance to compete in 16 and basically tossed to the curb like yesterday's trash. I mean Romo had his bad games. But to me,Tony was definitely a smarter QB as well as a better passer. Seemed to make lesser WRs better. Dak should be all world with this talent and he's not. He's an average QB propped up by the talent of the roster. Give him lesser receivers he's below average.

37 pages of irrelevance. Just as the Dak vrs every other QB comparison. We chose the Dak path and Romo should be a DC or QBc somewhere .

 

[SultanOfSix]

Romo Choked. Dak choked. They both choked. Playoffs are where you make your reputations and they have both failed.

This is a fallacy of oversimplification. It also typically comes with new “definitions”, where the word “choke” is redefined so that it becomes meaningless or irrelevant to its original meaning and amounts to nothing but “losing a game” or “not winning a championship”. For example, if Romo had 26 fourth quarter comebacks, how is he labelled as a choker? Oh, because he never came back when it “mattered” in an “elimination” game and “he” didn’t do enough to win it. By such oversimplification, every game except being part of a championship team is an “elimination” game then with different multiplication factors towards achieving one. Moving the goalposts, or ignoring other factors or variables, just to provide some superficial similarity between two differences to diminish one or elevate the other. No one compares Trent Dilfer (who, by the way, “loved” Romo as a QB, always speaking highly of him) and Dan Marino as equivalent QBs or says the former is superior because the former “won” a SB and the other did not. Because if Marino was on that 2000 Ravens championship team then that team likely would’ve been undefeated and considered one of the greatest teams ever.

 

[Whirlwin]

Prescott doesn't choke...
Dak might go down as even being a bigger choker than McNabb.

McNabb was a drunk he didn’t choke either. Prescott is the best under pressure if you’ve been paying attention. But of course there’s a handful of people they would like nothing better. And watch him fail

 

[shabazz]

Truth. It's a senseless, meaningless war of words. I was a Romo fan in his day, but when it was time for him to go, it was time to go. But some people will just never let it go. I liked him, but Romo was not elite, and neither is Dak. Bottom line.

…..agree. The turnovers kept Tony from going next level. And I believe the Dak debate is unfortunately over

there’s still a chance he can go next level but it’s going into his 7th year and we’re still seeing some of the same mental mistakes

 

[Philmonroe]

…..agree. The turnovers kept Tony from going next level. And I believe the Dak debate is unfortunately over

there’s still a chance he can go next level but it’s going into his 7th year and we’re still seeing some of the same mental mistakes

Do you mean inopportune turnovers? Otherwise I'm not sure what you're talking about because he didn't really throw a lot of ints most years starting esp after the first year or two.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Truth. It's a senseless, meaningless war of words. I was a Romo fan in his day, but when it was time for him to go, it was time to go. But some people will just never let it go. I liked him, but Romo was not elite, and neither is Dak. Bottom line.

I think that's the thing...was it REALLY time?

Everyone says "but he was fragile"...and that is a simpleton way to look at it. Easy way out of the controversy.

Dak FINALLY gave Romo time to fully heal. Romo usually PLAYED hurt or came back still hurt. Playing hurt in the NFL is a good way to stay hurt....as a QB anyway.

Romo's final drive was a sign of what might have been. "Time to go"? Um.....maybe and maybe not.

 

[tarheeldave]

No. Dak is not as good as Romo. Never has been, never will be!

 

[Havic]

Romo had better arm talent and was better at reading defenses. Dak is a better leader.

 

[shabazz]

Do you mean inopportune turnovers? Otherwise I'm not sure what you're talking about because he didn't really throw a lot of ints most years starting esp after the first year or two.

Yup. Inopurtune turnovers. He had to take a lot of risks to try to keep up with all the points the defense was giving up. He was a baller but the turnovers will always be part of his legacy

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Romo had better arm talent and was better at reading defenses. Dak is a better leader.

Out of curiosity how is Dak a better Leader, besides when asking his team mates on pros about Dak they said "He is a great leader." Its the "He's a great leader" is pretty much the generic answer any football player will say about his quarterback if they are not a locker room cancer.

 

[Havic]

Out of curiosity how is Dak a better Leader, besides when asking his team mates on pros about Dak they said "He is a great leader." Its the "He's a great leader" is pretty much the generic answer any football player will say about his quarterback if they are not a locker room cancer.

Dak has the locker room. His leadership traits have never been questioned. Many times it was stated Romo was not the leader of the team and deferred to others instead.

 

[Ranched]

Prescott is currently 105 touchdowns behind Romo, which he may need a little more time to pass based on his current annual output.

And by the way, Dak is currently the highest-rated passer in Cowboys history. His career completion percentage & TD-INT ratio beat any of the other greats.