Please somebody hire Mr. "Yards are Yards" Kellen Moore

RonnieT24

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Same here.

Now, I do believe KMo is salvagable, but he desperately needs help. He's had no one to learn under.

I honestly don't know at this point. He was clearly handed the keys to the Ferrari before he was qualified to drive it. The car can still go fast as hell but ends up in the ditch a lot because the guy driving it can't handle 650 horsepower.. Some want to put the blame on Dak but Dak isn't the one calling the "three receivers run to the sticks and turnaround" play on nearly every third and long.. and Dak is not the one who is refusing to call any running plays.. and if he is then Kellen Moore needs to get in his face and tell him to quit audibling out of them. And given the number of times we break the huddle in empty backfield.. I am extremely dubious about the number of times Dak allegedly audibles out of run plays.. I mean did he audible while still in the huddle?
 

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I'm all for watching Zeke run the ball 30 times for 75 yards a game.

We're not going to win any games that way, but hey, we'll get 3 high first round draft picks and be ready in 3 years when Dak's contract is finally up and we can get a real QB.

I'm on your side. Run the ball more. Anything that has Dak less involved I'm okay with.

You can do better than this.. How many times in his career has Zeke even had 30 carries? How many of them has he ended up with 75 yards. I get that you're all giddy that Dak stumbled down the stretch and you will spend all offseason crowing about how "you were right" about him.. Enjoy.. but you know as well as I do that when he comes back healthy next season Dak is going to go back to playing the same way he did to start last year. And if he stays healthy I expect him to keep playing at that level.. Which of course will piss you off to no end.. but you have months to come up with a new angle to explain why Dak isn't responsible for the wins.. I'm sure you'll find one.
 

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Moore's offense was dead last in running plays with motion. And I think near last in passing plays with motion. How do you expect an offense to be productive when you're spoon feeding the opposing defenses?
Heard when he used motion in the playoff game it was run every time. It allowed them to know. Not that they needed to know. It was up the middle..
 

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You can do better than this.. How many times in his career has Zeke even had 30 carries? How many of them has he ended up with 75 yards. I get that you're all giddy that Dak stumbled down the stretch and you will spend all offseason crowing about how "you were right" about him.. Enjoy.. but you know as well as I do that when he comes back healthy next season Dak is going to go back to playing the same way he did to start last year. And if he stays healthy I expect him to keep playing at that level.. Which of course will piss you off to no end.. but you have months to come up with a new angle to explain why Dak isn't responsible for the wins.. I'm sure you'll find one.
I don't know how many times Zeke has done that, but I'm all for him doing that now.

I also know, as well as you do, that when Dak puts up some pretty stats against the Eagles or Giants ya'll are going to buy into that fools gold hook, line, and sinker once again, and I'll be right there to tell ya "I told ya so" when it all comes crumbling down again.
But hey, 7th times a charm, right? :lmao::lmao::lmao:
 

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I don't know how many times Zeke has done that, but I'm all for him doing that now.

I also know, as well as you do, that when Dak puts up some pretty stats against the Eagles or Giants ya'll are going to buy into that fools gold hook, line, and sinker once again, and I'll be right there to tell ya "I told ya so" when it all comes crumbling down again.
But hey, 7th times a charm, right? :lmao::lmao::lmao:

Lemme help you.. Zeke has had two games in his career with at least 30 carries.. he had 140 yards in one and 153 yards in the other.. He only even made it to 20 carries twice in 2021.. and topped 100 yards in both games.. They got him to 20 carries 11 times in 2019 and 2020.. he hit 100 yards 8 times in those games.. So in the last three seasons.. when the Cowboys have managed to stick to the run long enough to give him 20 carries.. he has hit the century mark 9 times out of 13. And the Cowboys have won 9 of those games.. Including the two this season.. Seems like to me that would be compelling evidence that they need to get dude the ball. I can half excuse them for this year because of the knee injury.. But frankly letting him play with that thing is yet another nail in the Moore coffin if you ask me. At some point doesn't the OC need to step in and say I need my running back to be able to actually run? But Moore never did.. because he had no intention of running the ball anyway... They could have trotted 52 year old Emmitt out there for all he cared.
 

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I wish someone would hire him too just to show ya'll that it doesn't matter who the OC is he will be limited with what he can do because his QB is limited in what he can do.
its probably 6 of one, half a dozen of the other....we can't blame the lack of running game on Dak....
 

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Lemme help you.. Zeke has had two games in his career with at least 30 carries.. he had 140 yards in one and 153 yards in the other.. He only even made it to 20 carries twice in 2021.. and topped 100 yards in both games.. They got him to 20 carries 11 times in 2019 and 2020.. he hit 100 yards 8 times in those games.. So in the last three seasons.. when the Cowboys have managed to stick to the run long enough to give him 20 carries.. he has hit the century mark 9 times out of 13. And the Cowboys have won 9 of those games.. Including the two this season.. Seems like to me that would be compelling evidence that they need to get dude the ball. I can half excuse them for this year because of the knee injury.. But frankly letting him play with that thing is yet another nail in the Moore coffin if you ask me. At some point doesn't the OC need to step in and say I need my running back to be able to actually run? But Moore never did.. because he had no intention of running the ball anyway... They could have trotted 52 year old Emmitt out there for all he cared.
I'm all for running the ball 30-40 times a game. The less Dak passes the better.

I'm on your side on this one.
 

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See you found a positive....only an eejit would have continued running the ball.

At the end of the day it may be Moore's responsibility, but that could be that he's not dumbing down the plays to meet Dak's shaken confidence, and until he can prove it, his ability.
In this league.....and especially NFC East...you HAVE to run the dang ball.

But running three times up the clogged middle with our QB literally tripping over the center before the handoff then claiming the run game don;t work....


probably isn't a good run game plan. It doesn't mean stop running. It means figure out a run game we can do. Pollard showed us what a play IN SPACE can do. We DIDN'T go back to the something that worked.

Moore is an idiot.
 

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I'm all for watching Zeke run the ball 30 times for 75 yards a game.

We're not going to win any games that way, but hey, we'll get 3 high first round draft picks and be ready in 3 years when Dak's contract is finally up and we can get a real QB.

I'm on your side. Run the ball more. Anything that has Dak less involved I'm okay with.


With ONE run play designed for zeke....12 times a game....it will be like 46 yards.

Because we have a mooron for OC.
 

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its probably 6 of one, half a dozen of the other....we can't blame the lack of running game on Dak....

Yeah some people are still hanging onto Moore's quote when he threw Dak under the bus for allegedly audibling out of 12 running plays against Tampa. Like Dak was out there going rogue and just waving off any running plays.. It's common knowledge that in most cases they send in two plays, one pass and one run, and the QB is supposed to go to whichever one he thinks will work best against the defensive alignment. Since pretty much every running play seems to be delay handoff up the middle it's not hard to imagine that Dak would walk up to the line and check to the pass play against most good fronts.. Maybe send in something that isn't going to get blown up in the backfield because we have a tight end trying to block an all pro DE or trying to run behind our undersized guard or center matched up against a 340 pound moose, Kellen?
 

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He could possibly get it by default now with the situation they are having.
 

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With ONE run play designed for zeke....12 times a game....it will be like 46 yards.

Because we have a mooron for OC.


I would not go that far.. I think Moore is a pretty smart guy.. but lots of pretty smart people freeze up when taking exams.. That's what games are for OCs.. they're the end of the chapter exam for exam for this week's chapter of the book. There are two things working against our running game.. Lack of diversity in the plays we call and obviously the lack of good blocking.. We are weak up the middle so the insistence on 90% of our running plays being right up the middle is mind boggling. The fact that none of our tight ends can even slow down a decent edge rusher is an indictment on the people choosing the players.. but again that's on Moore.. He should know that his running plays need tight ends who excel at sealing off the back side.. He should have insisted on having one on the roster.. But you only need a good blocking tight end if you actually plan on running the ball...ergo......
 

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The problem with consistently running the ball in this offense is that when you end up in 2nd or 3rd and long the odds are very much stacked against a conversion with this QB. He did run the hell out of the ball when it was working early in the season.

I'm not a big Moore fan but he has to overcome his own inexperience and some significant personnel issues.

I wouldn't hire him as a HC based on the former alone.
 

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I would not go that far.. I think Moore is a pretty smart guy.. but lots of pretty smart people freeze up when taking exams.. That's what games are for OCs.. they're the end of the chapter exam for exam for this week's chapter of the book. There are two things working against our running game.. Lack of diversity in the plays we call and obviously the lack of good blocking.. We are weak up the middle so the insistence on 90% of our running plays being right up the middle is mind boggling. The fact that none of our tight ends can even slow down a decent edge rusher is an indictment on the people choosing the players.. but again that's on Moore.. He should know that his running plays need tight ends who excel at sealing off the back side.. He should have insisted on having one on the roster.. But you only need a good blocking tight end if you actually plan on running the ball...ergo......
Okay....maybe too far.
But.....you know the definition of insanity. He did this FAR too often for an alleged smartie.
 

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And put us out of this misery. It should be very instructional to the Cowboys brain trust that this team had the #1 scoring offense and the #1 offense in yards and yet nobody is interested in hiring the architect of that greatness. They were also #1 in yards and #6 in scoring in 2019, his first season. And I believe they were #1 in both categories in 2020 before Dak got hurt. Up until this year we blamed the defense for not reaching the mountain top with all this great offense going on.. But what we learned this year, and really should have known all along, is that this offense pads its numbers against patsies and mostly fall flat when facing the big boys. Good DCs can handle this offense and it becomes a matter of the guys being super human for it to succeed. Obviously that's no way to make a living.

These aint the 90's Cowboys.. Those guys could go super human even against good teams.. hell against other GREAT teams.. and make no mistake.. those 90's Packers, 49ers and Bills were great teams.. The Cowboys were just greater. But those guys don't play for this team. These guys need help .. in the form of the OC.. and the bottom line is I don't think Mr. Yards are Yards is the answer. He doesn't want to run the ball.. he doesn't want to feature one receiver or focus on favorable matchups. He wants to "take what the defense gives us.." Which works when the defense sucks.. but good defenses give you crap.. And you can have all the crap you want.. cause you aint winnin no games with it.
Yes! It’s been going on for over a decade now. Play-calling has always held back our mega talented team.
 
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