Jerry should try to get A.Rodgers, or Wilson here is why

[DandyDon52]

You know that Rodgers and Russ want $50 million a season right? I would love to see what the Cowboys roster would be like with two $45 million quarterbacks.

that is to keep playing for their current teams lol
And Dak would leave if dallas got another qb. He isnt going to sit on a bench.

 

[blueblood70]

That is probably what jones boys are thinking too lol

good luck with that.

I know that if dallas got Rodgers, or even wilson, tv ratings would sky rocket, and psl owners could get premium prices for tickets, or they might even
go to the games themselves!

Either one would have cowboy fans excited.

I dont think another year of dak excites anyone.

It would also be fun to see how dak would do on another team.

sorry you forget and skip over facts Jerry has zero control over this

Rogers and Wilson are NOT FAs like Tb12 and PM were!

the teams have 50% control and the player have 50% and they will want massive compensation for the trade and limit where they can go.sorry its was a massively poor post its so unrealistic and the spewing of nonsense after like jerry could do it IF he wanted, no he couldn't

the packers wont allow him to go here , one, two doubt its on eithers list as the players at this stage in their career have very short list and its more important than team its geography etc..

RW more likely to go to a NY or Cali team and rogers is almost 100% wants back in cali and the packer want him in the afc so theres that,,

keep skippy over facts..last fact daks got 100% control no Tags allowed no trad because and his compensation and salary makes that a very unrealistic trade. Sorry Charlie your post was nonsense as soon as you hit send.

MY post was correct RW is not better than dak, RIGHT NOW, he slipped to daks level. Those are facts he wouldn't be an upgrade, so the trade makes zero sense,

 

[Ranching]

we don't want to win, we like our loser

Don't talk about Pappy like that! Show some respect!!

 

[blueblood70]

To be fair to Russ, I think the Seattle roster has dropped to where they have not been good enough to be elevated into contention.
The defense is a shadow of what it was and the Oline is one of the worst in the league.
For much (not all) of his career, he has had a good defense and a solid Oline (though not lately)

UM that makes him DAK needing MORE talent now then back when he was more elite,Dak would have sure liked that defense and OL and run game etc Russ had his first 3 seasons..lmao that the issue most overlook needs as much help as dak at this point.

 

[Creeper]

This sounds financially impossible

You think Rodgers would take a giant pay cut to be… a Dallas Cowboy? A guy who plays for the Packers and grew up the worlds biggest 9ers fan?

If they trade Dak after June 1 they actually get a $20 million CAP save in 2022. The problem is, they would have $43 million in dead money in 2023, even though it nets out to a $2.1 million save against the 2023 CAP. Dead money cannot be restructured into CAP relief.

The other problem is, they would need CAP relief before March 16 or whenever they sign Rodgers or Wilson. It is just not feasible, unless they are willing to let other players go and not re-sign any of their own free agents. What good is Rodgers if all the WRs leave via free agency and Cooper is cut to clear CAP space?

Does this make the team better? I don't think Wilson is the answer. I don't think Rodgers would come to Dallas to play. Even if he does, maybe he plays for 1 more year. 2 on the outside. Then what?

I think the easier solution is to fix the offensive line in the draft. Re-sign Kearse and Gregory. Get stronger on defense, and improve the running game. Take the focus off Dak. The mistake Jerry made was paying Zeke so much money to be a featured back then paying Dak so much money to be the focus of the offense. They both can't be worth the money they make.

 

[DandyDon52]

Wilson has never been elite. He falls into the dammm good category.

just 1 question, ....or 2
if wilson was starting qb for the cowboys in sept, would you be more excited to see that game , or see dak start?
What if rodgers was starting? would that be more exciting than just another season of dak?

 

[blueblood70]

I believe the Joneses are all in on Prescott because of that contract. The reason they like their guys is because they are their guys. What they really like are themselves.

daks top 10 qb stil and yet fans here speak as if hes bottom 10 this is insane sure they like him a TEAM should be able to win with top 10 qb..

hater alerts all over these threads.

fix the OL, play calling, and run game for dak same as Russ get that yet? dak will be fine..

 

[Ranching]

daks top 10 qb stil and yet fans here speak as if hes bottom 10 this is insane sure they like him a TEAM should be able to win with top 10 qb..

hater alerts all over these threads.

fix the OL, play calling, and run game for dak same as Russ get that yet? dak will be fine..

Hater is to tame a word for some of these guys....I admit, they are pretty comical.

 

[blueblood70]

Hater is to tame a word for some of these guys....I admit, they are pretty comical.

right excuses for Russ not having as good a defense OL and run game for his drop off yet they want to get him here and we have the same issues and daks dealing with that lol

were we 12-5 6-0 in the division and made the playoffs as the 3rd seed with dak i mean maybe i woke up in different reality but these threads act as if we were 6-10 and played horribly. they are blaming the qb when the facts say while he wasnt perfect there were obvious issues that need correcting the team to improve its playoff chances and its not going after rogers or Wilson at all costs lmao.

yes at one point RW was elite he was better then dak but no more daks improved some and Russ has declined some, both are good i see the same QB in both at this point.

 

[kskboys]

just 1 question, ....or 2
if wilson was starting qb for the cowboys in sept, would you be more excited to see that game , or see dak start?
What if rodgers was starting? would that be more exciting than just another season of dak?

Maybe a little, but there are two things that generally get teams into the super bowl. Decent QB's and strong disruptive DLines. No QB will make a difference here until we can stop the run and disrupt the other team's QB. Other important factors are a strong running game or consistent short passing game, strong MLB play, and strong S play.

This team as is does not possess super bowl capabilities until we fix the DLine where it can stop the run and disrupt the pocket.

 

[DandyDon52]

they would have $43 million in dead money in 2023, even though it nets out to a $2.1 million save against the 2023 CAP. Dead money cannot be restructured into CAP relief........Can you explain this?

The other problem is, they would need CAP relief before March 16 or whenever they sign Rodgers or Wilson

The other problem is, they would need CAP relief before March 16 or whenever they sign Rodgers or Wilson......This would be a problem,
but there probably is a way to get it done.
I admit I dont know about all the cap stuff and dead money, but there is always a way.

 

[DFWJC]

UM that makes him DAK needing MORE talent now then back when he was more elite,Dak would have sure liked that defense and OL and run game etc Russ had his first 3 seasons..lmao that the issue most overlook needs as much help as dak at this point.

Dak has a WAY better Oline and also a better defense than Russ.

Russ would have a far better overall team around him in Dallas than he's had in Seattle the last two years.
Not even remotely close.

But this is all fantasy.
Not happening.

 

[DandyDon52]

were we 12-5 6-0 in the division and made the playoffs as the 3rd seed with dak

yes and were one and done in playoffs with a last play where they looked like idiots.

Dak has won 1 playoff game in 6 years lol , I think I have seen enough.
Is it all daks fault? no it isnt, but with a better qb I think some more of those playoff games could have been won.

Dak would be better off on another team, I think him and elliot should go to colts on a pkg deal!
They need a QB, and add elliot to J. Taylor and they would have best run game in nfl.

If the 92 version of Jimmy were here, he would get 1 of these 2 qb's.

 

[baltcowboy]

that is to keep playing for their current teams lol
And Dak would leave if dallas got another qb. He isnt going to sit on a bench.

Listen if Dak plays bad next season, the Cowboys will move on from him by drafting his replacement. Dak has two years more to prove himself. Luckily he signed a short term contract.

 

[blueblood70]

yes and were one and done in playoffs with a last play where they looked like idiots.

Dak has won 1 playoff game in 6 years lol , I think I have seen enough.
Is it all daks fault? no it isnt, but with a better qb I think some more of those playoff games could have been won.

Dak would be better off on another team, I think him and elliot should go to colts on a pkg deal!
They need a QB, and add elliot to J. Taylor and they would have best run game in nfl.

If the 92 version of Jimmy were here, he would get 1 of these 2 qb's.

Roger's and brady one and done Russ not in the playoffs and titans #1 one and done..like skewing points to make your debate appear better, its not Daks not at fault f the last play call or execution, the ref messed that up and we lost the game before that,,next!

didnt Russ throw pick from the 1yard lione to lose a sb instead if say run the ball himself call a run but odd that blame went to the HC and play caller..huh..

 

[blueblood70]

Dak has a WAY better Oline and also a better defense than Russ.

Russ would have a far better overall team around him in Dallas than he's had in Seattle the last two years.
Not even remotely close.

But this is all fantasy.
Not happening.

disagree but like you said the thread was dead at the send button..fantasy land,

 

[fredp22]

Ok first I know we cant force trade Dak, but if he wanted to be traded, it could be done.

The solution is to bring in Rodgers or Wilson, and tell Dak your now the Bkup dude

I stopped at ur now the backup

you cant tell the highest paid player in the game at 40mil to be a backup as you bring in another 30-40 million a year player to start. what is that 70-80 million plus a year in the qb position not to mention we are already 20 million over the cap. your purchase jumps that to 60-70 million over. you'd have to cut the whole team to get back under the cap.

 

[KJJ]

 

[ondaedg]

Even depleted, we would still have a better chance of winning w/out Dak holding us back offensively.Rodgers and Wilson both have the ability to make others around them better, unlike Dak.

Russell Wilson won a super bowl with one of the greatest defenses in NFL history. Since that defense left he’s done what exactly?

 

[Creeper]

The other problem is, they would need CAP relief before March 16 or whenever they sign Rodgers or Wilson......This would be a problem,
but there probably is a way to get it done.
I admit I dont know about all the cap stuff and dead money, but there is always a way.

If they trade Dak after June 1 only his pro-rated bonus for 2022 hits the CAP in 2022 or (the Cowboys have the options to take the entire pro-rated bonus amount if they choose). His guaranteed salary is paid by his new team and his new team takes his salary against their CAP - and his salary for the next years of his contract. Dallas then takes the remainder of Dak's pro-rated bonus against their CAP in 2023. This is considered dead money because Dak is no longer with the team but they are taking a CAP hit for him anyway.

In 2022 Dak's current CAP impact is $34.45 million. $20 million is salary and the rest is pro-rated bonus. That is $14.45 million. If they trade Dak after June 1, the CAP impact is only the pro-rated bonus amount of $14.45 million which is $20 million less that his CAP impact would have been if he was still with the team. Hence, $20 million CAP save.

However, his signing bonuses were spread out over 5 years, out to 2025. So after 2022 there are still 3 years of pro-rated signing bonus on Dallas's CAP books. That amounts to $43.35 million ($14.45 million x 3). Dak's CAP impact for 2023 is $45.45 million, assuming they do not restructure him in 2022. The remaining pro-rated bonus amount for Dak in 2023 is $43.35 million. So the dead money in 2023 is still $2.1 million less than his CAP impact would have been. That's considered a $2.1 million CAP save. But the problem with dead money is there is no way to restructure it to spread it out further. They have to take the whole thing in 1 year.

Dak's 2022 salary is guaranteed so they can't make him a pre-June 1 cut and save $20 million. In fact, they have to pay him his $20 million no matter when they cut him. And his 2023 salary of $31 million is guaranteed the 5th day of the 2022 leagues year which is March 21st. Only a trades gets them out of the obligation to pay him his salary unless they cut him before March 22.

I know it sounds complicated but it is actually very simple. The net of it is they can trade Dak after June 1 and save some money this year and a bit less next year.

The interesting thing is his new team only takes on his salary. For for them his CAP impact is $20 million this year and $31 million next. They can restructure his deal and convert salary to bonus and lower his CAP quite a bit for both years. This makes Dak very tradeable - if he agrees to the deal.