The talk is Cooper won't be back

[MountaineerCowboy]

If he wasn’t doom and gloom what would he post about lol?

Somebody has to be the voice of reason among the delusional.

That's why you and your buds are left wondering what went wrong all the time while I sit back, laugh, make fun of you, and watch you desperately try to figure out what some of us knew all along and tried to warn you about before it happened.

Have an open mind and listen to folks that know the game better than you.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

Would be a shame, if we do get rid of him, to not get anything in return.

 

[fivetwos]

This is not about Coopers performance.

It's the only big contract the Jones twins didn't get hosed on of late, and it's not beyond complicated to cut him for significant savings.

That's it.

 

[Carson]

Yes, because we have sooooooo much to be excited for given the past 26 years

It's not doom and gloom. It's just not buying the fools gold. This team will 100% be worse next year than it was this year.

Didn’t imply that.

Simply implying that regardless of this move, you said this team was done.

I am not attacking or being a jerk. Just all in good, clean fun my friend. Just giving you a hard time

 

[visionary]

Can't link it because of the rules here but Michael Gehlken is reporting from several sources that it would be considered an upset if Cooper returns this season.

we don’t use him anyway

a competent GM would trade him to Jags or Jets for their rd 2 pick but of course we have Moron and Son so we will release him as a favor to him

 

[Flamma]

The offense will be straight up garbage. You cannot replace 7 or your top 8 pass catchers in one offseason!

WRs : Cooper, Gallup, Wilson, Brown, Turner

TEs : Schultz, Jarwin

Lamb is the only guy left. If this is the plan, you might as well cut all of the big cap hits, go 2-15 and plan to start again in 2024

The one thing the Cowboys don't do, it's preparing for a new season based on the last season. They're not good at this. Any really good years we have is a result of happenstance, not the clever maneuvers of a sly GM. I'm not expecting them to handle this offseason very well. Then Jerry will be shocked anew.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Didn’t imply that.

Simply implying that regardless of this move, you said this team was done.

I am not attacking or being a jerk. Just all in good, clean fun my friend. Just giving you a hard time

I didn't take it that way. I didn't take it as you being a jerk.

I just have zero faith in this organization to build a winner.

 

[Adreme]

We better get a pick from him. If we release him outright, that's a damn shame

Nobody is going to want to trade for that contract and even if someone were everyone KNOWS the Cowboys have to release him in the next week so why offer anything other than maybe a 6th or 7th round pick (if you like that contract).

 

[Carson]

The one thing the Cowboys don't do, it's preparing for a new season based on the last season. They're not good at this. Any really good years we have is a result of happenstance, not the clever maneuvers of a sly GM. I'm not expecting them to handle this offseason very well. Then Jerry will be shocked anew.

Agreed completely.

This reminds me of the Thompson, Hurns, Beasley year.

They will stink, than claim we will improve at receiver next season

 

[Adreme]

we don’t use him anyway

a competent GM would trade him to Jags or Jets for their rd 2 pick but of course we have Moron and Son so we will release him as a favor to him

Why would the Jags make that trade? Why would the Jags, who are early in a rebuild, want an overpaid WR coming off a down year who has now been woefully inconsistent in production with two different franchise QBs?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

The one thing the Cowboys don't do, it's preparing for a new season based on the last season. They're not good at this. Any really good years we have is a result of happenstance, not the clever maneuvers of a sly GM. I'm not expecting them to handle this offseason very well. Then Jerry will be shocked anew.

Yup.

That's why no NFC East team has won the division back to back for like 20 years. It seems none of the franchises know how to build on a successful season. Instead of getting better and adding needed pieces they get worse.

 

[visionary]

Why would the Jags make that trade? Why would the Jags, who are early in a rebuild, want an overpaid WR coming off a down year who has now been woefully inconsistent in production with two different franchise QBs?

Jags will want a reliable veteran target for their young QB. They will take OL in rd 1. They can restructure Cooper to a longer cap friendly deal and Cooper is a 1b WR who will be very productive for several years . I would want to keep him if I had any faith in our QB leading us to a championship

it’s not complicated

 

[Carson]

Why would the Jags make that trade? Why would the Jags, who are early in a rebuild, want an overpaid WR coming off a down year who has now been woefully inconsistent in production with two different franchise QBs?

That’s easy.

• They have tons of cap
• Cooper is a proven #1 league
• Chark who was their #1 is a free agent
• Helps Lawrence grow

 

[Adreme]

Jags will want a reliable veteran target for their young QB. They will take OL in rd 1. They can restructure Cooper to a longer cap friendly deal and Cooper is a 1b WR who will be very productive for several years . I would want to keep him if I had any faith in our QB leading us to a championship

it’s not complicated

He is not worth 20m per year. He has shown to be inconsistent with 2 other established franchise QBs. Unless he willingly agrees to take a 5 million a year paycut then why would you trade for him when you can just wait a week knowing NO ONE wants that overpaid contract on the books when they can easily sign him for 15m per after being cut.

 

[Carson]

He is not worth 20m per year. He has shown to be inconsistent with 2 other established franchise QBs. Unless he willingly agrees to take a 5 million a year paycut then why would you trade for him when you can just wait a week knowing NO ONE wants that overpaid contract on the books when they can easily sign him for 15m per after being cut.

Washington offered him $23 per year.

Teams with that much cap can easily take on his cap hit.

 

[Adreme]

That’s easy.

• They have tons of cap
• Cooper is a proven #1 league
• Chark who was their #1 is a free agent
• Helps Lawrence grow

They have cap but are unlikely to waste it on a player making 5m more per year than he would get on the open market. He is a WR and there are no shortage of players who can put up 1000 yards a year on their best years currently in the NFL as there has been a boom in the amount of WRs lately. If anyone was offering anything of value for Cooper he would be traded but clearly no one wants that contract because they have seen a player who seems to have serious effort issues.

 

[visionary]

He is not worth 20m per year. He has shown to be inconsistent with 2 other established franchise QBs. Unless he willingly agrees to take a 5 million a year paycut then why would you trade for him when you can just wait a week knowing NO ONE wants that overpaid contract on the books when they can easily sign him for 15m per after being cut.

this is why you don’t tell the world you will cut him unlike our idiot GM

 

[Flamma]

Yup.

That's why no NFC East team has won the division back to back for like 20 years. It seems none of the franchises know how to build on a successful season. Instead of getting better and adding needed pieces they get worse.

The Eagles did a fantastic job between 2016 and 2017. Makes me want to puke just saying that, but it's true. They made moves to improve the team based on their last season. The Cowboys, Giants, and Commies aren't as good. The Cowboys do nothing based on the previous season.

Don't get me wrong, the Eagles GM has been horrible at drafting lately, but that's not what I'm talking about. You make moves based on your previous season. Not do the same thing every year and cross your fingers.

When was the last time Jerry traded up for a good player? Claibourne? We have a possible very good D. Take advantage of that. Good Lord, do something.

 

[Adreme]

Washington offered him $23 per year.

Teams with that much cap can easily take on his cap hit.

Yes and then he showed he was not worth 20 which is why most of the league laughed when he got 20 in the first place. Time showed that both Dallas and Washington were wrong (funny how both those teams are 2 of the 7 who haven't been to a conference championship game in a quarter century).

At the time Cooper was good player who it just seemed like was not working out for the Raiders because he was having a very bad year after a very bad year the year before. Now there is a second team where he suddenly is falling off in production. When it happens once, you can assume it is a blip, but happening twice is a trend and hence why no one is biting. Nobody wants to offer anything of value for a contract that is top tier for a player who just had a down year.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

So the first round picks from 2017, 2018, and essentially 2019 are gonna be gone.

2012, 2013, 2015 are already gone, and Dallas is counting the seconds until they can cut 2016.

Which means Zach Martin in 2014 is the only first round pick in the last 10 years that worked out long term (For now, Hopefully Micah.)