Video: Mac Engel On Why This Is The Worst Cowboys Offseason Of The Century | Shan & RJ

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And just because you constantly close your eyes, stomp your feet, and scream and cry, doesn’t mean all is lost, ya know?

The Cowboys seem to make you miserable 24/7, 365. Why torture yourself? Life’s too short.
Torture myself?

I am a fan of the Dallas Cowboys. I like to talk about the the Dallas Cowboys. My happiness is not attached to what the Dallas Cowboys do.

I firmly believe, however, that the fans that refuse to acknowledge issues with this team and turn a blind eye to those issues do allow the success and failure of the Dallas Cowboys to affect them in their daily lives. Because in their minds admitting this team has real issues instead of pretending everything is fine really affects them outside of this message board. I feel sorry for those people.
 

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In my opinion as a non-Cowboys fan, this isn’t that bad of an offseason, and not close to the worst you’ve had. What’s happens this year is you’re having to own up to a lot of bad contracts you’ve been giving out lately: Amari lost for a 5th rounder, Jaylon is STILL on the books for 6m$, La’El you took a huge dead cap hit in cutting (that will carry over to next year), Zeke you’re just waiting to cut when you can (as proof by him not getting restructures even though they’d save you a lot of space). I think a lot of people knew this was coming. Maybe you could still be more active in FA with the cap you have, but that’s just not the Jones’s way. Like it or not, it’s just what it is.

That’s not what happened in 2010 though. Does anyone remember this offseason? You just came back on the Eagles after it was almost assured we had the division. Philly went into week 17 at 11-4, looking to end 12-4 and have the 1 or 2 seed and a bye. Instead, you got us in the final game, we both ended at 11-5 and you had the tie breaker. The very next week was in Dallas for round 1 and you blew us out to go to Minnesota to face off against Favre’s big year there.

Even though you lost that game, Dallas’s hype was never higher than it was that offseason, not even after 2007. Everyone thought you were going to run roughshod through the NFC and go to the Super Bowl, especially if Favre didn’t come back. “You would have beaten the SB champion Saints in the NFCCG,” was the common narrative, as you did just that in the regular season about 2 months prior.

This unearned prestige began to fester, I genuinely believe it infected the mindset of the team. Jerry was all over the papers, convincing his players their poop don’t stink, and Stephen was touting Dez Bryant as the next great Michael Irvin incarnation which was all the team needed to replace TO. You proceeded to open 1-4 before Romo was lost for the season, and then the Garrett era started after 3 more losses in a row. Jerry thought if he convinced you that you were already champions then you’d show the world that his words burned a fire in the players’ souls, but just the opposite happened.

That is the worst possible offseason. This is nothing compared to the Psychological “experiment” conducted that year.
 
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Torture myself?

I am a fan of the Dallas Cowboys. I like to talk about the the Dallas Cowboys. My happiness is not attached to what the Dallas Cowboys do.

I firmly believe, however, that the fans that refuse to acknowledge issues with this team and turn a blind eye to those issues do allow the success and failure of the Dallas Cowboys to affect them in their daily lives. Because in their minds admitting this team has real issues instead of pretending everything is fine really affects them outside of this message board. I feel sorry for those people.
There’s a HUGE difference between “everything’s okay” and “everything sucks”. Who’s refusing to acknowledge problems? Just because virtually all of someone’s posts aren’t negative DOESN’T mean they see no problems. It simply means they’re TRYING to be normal, and enjoy A GAME!
 

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Totally refreshing re hash of ALL the events that have transpired concerning this team from TOP to bottom. Heck, and here I thought Jerry had some kind of censor authority to even not allow this type of negative press to be talked about publicly.

Freedom of the press IS actually alive and not muffled in Dallas after all, lol
Agreed....

Interesting.

Which is why I asked above if someone wouldn't mind explaining to non locals who is who in the local media.
 

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Torture myself?

I am a fan of the Dallas Cowboys. I like to talk about the the Dallas Cowboys. My happiness is not attached to what the Dallas Cowboys do.

I firmly believe, however, that the fans that refuse to acknowledge issues with this team and turn a blind eye to those issues do allow the success and failure of the Dallas Cowboys to affect them in their daily lives. Because in their minds admitting this team has real issues instead of pretending everything is fine really affects them outside of this message board. I feel sorry for those people.

How true that is man.
Been an outbreak of many cases of self deception around here reaching truly dangerous levels.
And unfortunately there is no antidote.
 

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In my opinion as a non-Cowboys fan, this isn’t that bad of an offseason, and not close to the worst you’ve had. What’s happens this year is you’re having to own up to a lot of bad contracts you’ve been giving out lately: Amari lost for a 5th rounder, Jaylon is STILL on the books for 6m$, La’El you took a huge dead cap hit in cutting (that will carry over to next year), Zeke you’re just waiting to cut when you can (as proof by him not getting restructures even though they’d save you a lot of space). I think a lot of people knew this was coming. Maybe you could still be more active in FA with the cap you have, but that’s just not the Jones’s way. Like it or not, it’s just what it is.

That’s not what happened in 2010 though. Does anyone remember this offseason? You just came back on the Eagles after it was almost assured we had the division. Philly went into week 17 at 11-4, looking to end 12-4 and have the 1 or 2 seed and a bye. Instead, you got us in the final game, we both ended at 11-5 and you had the tie breaker. The very next week was in Dallas for round 1 and you blew us out to go to Minnesota to face off against Favre’s big year there.

Even though you lost that game, Dallas’s hype was never higher than it was that offseason, not even after 2007. Everyone thought you were going to run roughshod through the NFC and go to the Super Bowl, especially if Favre didn’t come back. “You would have beaten the SB champion Saints in the NFCCG,” was the common narrative, as you did just that in the regular season about 2 months prior.

This unearned prestige began to fester, I genuinely believe it infected the mindset of the team. Jerry was all over the papers, convincing his players their poop don’t stink, and Stephen was touting Dez Bryant as the next great Michael Irvin incarnation which was all the team needed to replace TO. You proceeded to open 1-4 before Romo was lost for the season, and then the Garrett era started after 3 more losses in a row.

That is the worst possible offseason. This is nothing compared to the Psychological “experiment” conducted that year.
Several outstanding points in there that most aren't going to read because it's too long.

I don't mind but most do. Good stuff. Sucks that barely anyone is going to read it.

Edit....BTW recency bias at play here in a big way.
 

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In my opinion as a non-Cowboys fan, this isn’t that bad of an offseason, and not close to the worst you’ve had. What’s happens this year is you’re having to own up to a lot of bad contracts you’ve been giving out lately: Amari lost for a 5th rounder, Jaylon is STILL on the books for 6m$, La’El you took a huge dead cap hit in cutting (that will carry over to next year), Zeke you’re just waiting to cut when you can (as proof by him not getting restructures even though they’d save you a lot of space). I think a lot of people knew this was coming. Maybe you could still be more active in FA with the cap you have, but that’s just not the Jones’s way. Like it or not, it’s just what it is.

That’s not what happened in 2010 though. Does anyone remember this offseason? You just came back on the Eagles after it was almost assured we had the division. Philly went into week 17 at 11-4, looking to end 12-4 and have the 1 or 2 seed and a bye. Instead, you got us in the final game, we both ended at 11-5 and you had the tie breaker. The very next week was in Dallas for round 1 and you blew us out to go to Minnesota to face off against Favre’s big year there.

Even though you lost that game, Dallas’s hype was never higher than it was that offseason, not even after 2007. Everyone thought you were going to run roughshod through the NFC and go to the Super Bowl, especially if Favre didn’t come back. “You would have beaten the SB champion Saints in the NFCCG,” was the common narrative, as you did just that in the regular season about 2 months prior.

This unearned prestige began to fester, I genuinely believe it infected the mindset of the team. Jerry was all over the papers, convincing his players their poop don’t stink, and Stephen was touting Dez Bryant as the next great Michael Irvin incarnation which was all the team needed to replace TO. You proceeded to open 1-4 before Romo was lost for the season, and then the Garrett era started after 3 more losses in a row. Jerry thought if he convinced you that you were already champions then you’d show the world that his words burned a fire in the players’ souls, but just the opposite happened.

That is the worst possible offseason. This is nothing compared to the Psychological “experiment” conducted that year.

I agree. By the way, the Eagles have had a lot more horrific offseasons.
 

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How true that is man.
Been an outbreak of many cases of self deception around here reaching truly dangerous levels.
And unfortunately there is no antidote.
If you criticize moves this team makes or certain players it's the same tired "Well go find another team" or "Why are you so miserable?" blah blah blah.

I believe part of being a FAN is both rooting for your team and letting out the frustration when they do things you don't agree with it. If you're of the "everything is fine" and "trust the process" mindset after the past 26 years then you have gone beyond just being a "fan" and you're entering delusional territory.
 

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My view on this is ok on paper it looks like we're weaker on the oline and WR. But games aren't played on paper and frankly I rather be the underdog than the favorite.
 

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I agree with everything he said except for DLaw being their best pass rusher. He was their third best pass rusher until Gregory left. Parsons is their best pass rusher and he’s only a part-time pass rusher.
 

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If you criticize moves this team makes or certain players it's the same tired "Well go find another team" or "Why are you so miserable?" blah blah blah.

I believe part of being a FAN is both rooting for your team and letting out the frustration when they do things you don't agree with it. If you're of the "everything is fine" and "trust the process" mindset after the past 26 years then you have gone beyond just being a "fan" and you're entering delusional territory.

Yep.
The fact that you are simply capable of acknowledging faults of a football team is spun into weird personal attacks as though offending family members.

The hyper sensitive Jones, McCarthy and Prescott relatives are all well represented here whom I laugh at while I picture each of them on a couch and truly "confessing when it all started."

LOL
 

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Conversely, a fan that doesn’t seem to post anything other than complaints is wasting valuable time. If a person honestly thinks the team has no chance to win, how do they derive any pleasure from it, unless they actually enjoy losing and complaining? Also, do they really believe voicing their displeasure will actually affect change?
 

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I didn't listen, but it's the same offseason as the last 10 years...
 

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Conversely, a fan that doesn’t seem to post anything other than complaints is wasting valuable time. If a person honestly thinks the team has no chance to win, how do they derive any pleasure from it, unless they actually enjoy losing and complaining?
I suggest people learn to not base their happiness around a football teams successes and failures.

You're thinking way to much into it and judging people based on how their opinions of the way this team is handled. Them not aggreging with everything and complaining about it doesn't mean they are miserable in their everyday life the same thinking every move is genius doesn't mean they're happy in everyday life. It's has nothing to do with "enjoying" anything. It's football talk the way fans of every team do. We're talking about a football team here. You're making it bigger than it should be.
 

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I suggest people learn to not base their happiness around a football teams successes and failures.

You're thinking way to much into it and judging people based on how their opinions of the way this team is handled. Them not aggreging with everything and complaining about it doesn't mean they are miserable in their everyday life the same thinking every move is genius doesn't mean they're happy in everyday life. It's has nothing to do with "enjoying" anything. It's football talk the way fans of every team do. We're talking about a football team here. You're making it bigger than it should be.
How? The ONLY thing we have here to go by is the words we type. I’d bet the farm that you’re a great guy, and that we actually have much more in common, and would have a good time joking over drinks. But if someone always seems to type words like “hopeless” and “the worst ever”, how does that NOT give the impression of unhappiness? It’s only a game and a hobby, but since we spend so much time here, why not try to make it more fun?
 
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