Dallas Cowboys’ Kelvin Joseph is a person of interest in Dallas murder investigation

[LittleD]

Maybe learn a little about the Criminal Justice system. He isnt required to talk to police. Now I would if I knew who was involved in killing someone, but trust me when I tell you these young guys believe in that old "Snitches get stitches," crap. They wont talk to police about their buddies unless it saves their ***.

If he did nothing, and isnt gonna be charged, he will not cooperate with police, who they view as the real bad guy.

He may not be charged, YET my friend. He doesn't cooperate and he could face it all. He was in the vehicle. Nobody cares what his lawyer says.

 

[LittleD]

He is not a suspect. He is a person of interest. That lawyered up and probably snitched. If anything he will be a key witness. The police have nothing without Joseph.

He better have cooperated and he better identify all his friends in that SUV. He has to testify to save himself. Goodell is licking his chops.

 

[Runwildboys]

I agree that Bossman is a moron for hanging with guys like this..or even if he is like this.

But if the facts are he didnt instigate the fight but maybe backed his boys up in the fight(not super criminal) and he just happened to be in the vehicle when they saw dude and decided to fire shots...I cant say that he is guilty. He is unlucky...and stupid for hanging with that crowd. But I dont think you can call him guilty in that scenario.

Assume the above...it was the people in the vehicle he was riding in(assume he wasnt the shooter or the driver) that decided to escalate this to a shooting and it all happened pretty quick. Is he liable by law for what happened...or does he get punished because he was hanging with guys with guns?

With what I've heard so far, my biggest issue is the fact that he didn't come forward on his own.

 

[Reid1boys]

He may not be charged, YET my friend. He doesn't cooperate and he could face it all. He was in the vehicle. Nobody cares what his lawyer says.

They are going to charge him if they can charge him. This involved a murder. If he was part of it, his cooperation will not matter.

Let me be clear, I have never been arrested..... but I would never talk to police about anything that could actually involve me. Im a licensed gun carrier, and I had an incident once where I made a report. The way the police questioned me about the incident made it clear they were trying to see if they could charge me with something.

Lesson learned. What took place, what the police say took place, and what they might charge you with could all be very different. Let the police do what they are going to do without your help. BUt hey, thats why KJ has a lawyer for. Let him advise him on what he should be doing. Which likely means cooperating but always with his attorney present. Talking without his attorney present is FOOLISH.

 

[Hennessy_King]

That's what I'm trying to ask.

Is there another case like this? How long should it be?

No one died with Elliott but I think even Roger knows that was harsh. Trying to make up for Ray Rice.

I mean ray lewis

 

[Hennessy_King]

Yea, if he's lucky to continue his NFL career, he needs to drop the street act, can't continue that after snitching lol

Facts.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Kelvin Joseph is living up to his song...

 

[plymkr]

Kelvin Joseph is living up to his song...

That's 50 cent. That's a talented artist that doesn't need auto tunes.

 

[darealvelle]

That's 50 cent. That's a talented artist that doesn't need auto tunes.

You sure about that?

 

[J_Allen]

I would give him one more chance and that's it.

If he doesn't lose his NFL career after being charged with murder. If this doesn't teach him a lesson nothing will. I would tell him if this happens again don't even worry about coming to the facility because your things will be in the garbage before you get out of jail.

 

[baltcowboy]

The NFL will wait until after the draft to do anything. I personally would like us to cut him or the NFL suspends him prior to the draft and then draft accordingly. I'm glad KJ came clean and cooperated with the police. That's the first display of good judgment he's had since this whole thing started. So regardless of legal issues I still want him cut. I don't want to be in a playoff run or trying to make the playoffs and then he gets suspended and we're down a man. I'd assume have this settled before the season and ideally before the draft.

I agree the Cowboys should cut bait with him because trouble just seems to follow this guy but can the league suspend him for his boy going nuts and killing somebody? Now if the testimony says the friends got together and decided to keep it a secret it’s one thing. But if the shooter is a straight up killa, Bossman would have had good reason to be scared and wait.

 

[plymkr]

You sure about that?

I think that song would have been better without auto tunes. 50 didn't need to use it. 50 had a good voice and flow without auto tunes. IMO.

 

[baltcowboy]

What they know already is enough to act. His lawyer has already put him in that vehicle and he did not come forward on his own. Are the facts about this guy going to get any more favorable for him?

Conduct detrimental has to do with image and public perception which is why Goodell gets that wide net with which to act. We pay you a lot of money and we expect you not to embarrass us. Well, this is over the top when a murder has taken place and a player is party to it and he was party to it. His lack of action makes him a party to it.

What do you think the other owners and the public in general feels about just what they already know? Think anyone, including the NFLPA, has a problem with this guy being banned for life?

The other owners need to worry about Danny Boy. The guy appears to have stolen money from them. We need to know more about why Joseph did not come clean. The league will wait to act because they don’t want to get in the way of the investigation especially if Joseph is the key witness. I could see the Cowboys out right releasing him if your theory comes to fruition though.

 

[LittleD]

He is not a suspect. He is a person of interest. That lawyered up and probably snitched. If anything he will be a key witness. The police have nothing without Joseph.

The police have arrested 2 more in connection to the murder today... I'm sure KJ flipped to stay out of jail.
Doesn't matter Goodell is now plotting and planning KJ's exit from the NFL. He failed to report the murder and that my friend is conduct detrimental to the NFL.

 

[baltcowboy]

The police have arrested 2 more in connection to the murder today... I'm sure KJ flipped to stay out of jail.
Doesn't matter Goodell is now plotting and planning KJ's exit from the NFL. He failed to report the murder and that my friend is conduct detrimental to the NFL.

The easy answer for that is have the Cowboys release him. Stay tuned for that. I wonder if he will participate in OTAs, that will tell you were Jerrah stands.

 

[plymkr]

I agree the Cowboys should cut bait with him because trouble just seems to follow this guy but can the league suspend him for his boy going nuts and killing somebody? Now if the testimony says the friends got together and decided to keep it a secret it’s one thing. But if the shooter is a straight up killa, Bossman would have had good reason to be scared and wait.

You know who I want to talk to is KJ's full time videographer. If that guy was filming during this whole thing and it shows KJ being shocked or trying to stop them then I would agree with everything you said. If KJ was caught off guard and didn't know his friends had guns or were capable of open firing in the streets then I see your point he could have been scared. If there is footage of everything prior to the fight and then after the fight and the footage in question is deleted then I'd be more inclined to believe he's hiding something. If there is footage of them partying after the shooting then I'm not giving KJ the benefit of the doubt. The videographer is key to this and he works for KJ. Hopefully he filmed things that shows KJ had no idea what was happening or was coerced by his friends. That would be best case scenario. If there's a time stamp that shows footage was deleted then I'm skeptical.

 

[CouchCoach]

Lifetime ban? here we go with dramatics.

Vick was way worse. This guy was in the car when his thug friends pulled out guns. Now if he told them to do it, or was involved in the SHOOTING, Id agree. But if he was at the club and got into a brawl and his friends pulled out guns? nah

Don't get me started on that pos vick, different situation with the same punishment from me.

If this happens in the last couple of days, I would feel differently. This pos had plenty of time to do the right thing and is only forward because he was identified.

 

[Cowpolk]

I agree that Bossman is a moron for hanging with guys like this..or even if he is like this.

But if the facts are he didnt instigate the fight but maybe backed his boys up in the fight(not super criminal) and he just happened to be in the vehicle when they saw dude and decided to fire shots...I cant say that he is guilty. He is unlucky...and stupid for hanging with that crowd. But I dont think you can call him guilty in that scenario.

Assume the above...it was the people in the vehicle he was riding in(assume he wasnt the shooter or the driver) that decided to escalate this to a shooting and it all happened pretty quick. Is he liable by law for what happened...or does he get punished because he was hanging with guys with guns?

He is done in the NFL

 

[CouchCoach]

The police have arrested 2 more in connection to the murder today... I'm sure KJ flipped to stay out of jail.
Doesn't matter Goodell is now plotting and planning KJ's exit from the NFL. He failed to report the murder and that my friend is conduct detrimental to the NFL.

Can't get more detrimental unless he's more involved. And now he has to worry about what the others tell the cops about what he knew. I'd bet the farm he was not an innocent bystander.

 

[CouchCoach]

You know who I want to talk to is KJ's full time videographer. If that guy was filming during this whole thing and it shows KJ being shocked or trying to stop them then I would agree with everything you said. If KJ was caught off guard and didn't know his friends had guns or were capable of open firing in the streets then I see your point he could have been scared. If there is footage of everything prior to the fight and then after the fight and the footage in question is deleted then I'd be more inclined to believe he's hiding something. If there is footage of them partying after the shooting then I'm not giving KJ the benefit of the doubt. The videographer is key to this and he works for KJ. Hopefully he filmed things that shows KJ had no idea what was happening or was coerced by his friends. That would be best case scenario. If there's a time stamp that shows footage was deleted then I'm skeptical.

Didn't he continue to party with them after the shooting?