News: BR: Stephen Jones on Cowboys Fans' Frustrations: You Don't Win Super Bowl in Offseason

[Birch_Wood]

I find it odd that Stephen Jones thinks he knows anything about winning a SB. He could have just said, “You don’t win Super Bowls the way we do things.”

Exactly!

 

[kskboys]

I imagined what the posts here would be like before I clicked the thread I was right

If everyone is saying it...........................

 

[Cowfan75]

Actually, you DO win Super Bowls in the offseason, based off your moves. Someone please just shut Stephen up. I can't take another 26 years of losing with him in front of a microphone.

 

[nobody]

Actually, you DO win Super Bowls in the offseason, based off your moves. Someone please just shut Stephen up. I can't take another 26 years of losing with him in front of a microphone.

It's also about team cohesion and the mentality they carry into the season and being hungry for it at the right time, not just the off-season. But getting the right guys for that attitude in the off-season is crucial.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Or the regular season either. lol

 

[Pantone282C]

Stephen is more annoying and out of touch than booger.
I'm really not looking forward to his reign..

Makes me afraid!

 

[Pantone282C]

I don’t even know what this guy does for the organization.

Run it into the ground.

 

[Pantone282C]

 

[Motorola]

A better listen is Dallas radio station KTCK 96.7 the ticket. They are not tied to the Cowboys like 105.3 and are much more open about what’s going on. You can get it on line through I heart radio. Worth a listen.

Thanks for the reminder. In my most recent visits to family in San Antonio, I've listened to The Ticket on a local sports radio station. IIRC the programming is split between The Ticket and sports shows in SA.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Those guys are the ones that have a big impact on the decisions the Joneses make. I didn’t say everyone in free agency doesn’t fit our system, the Jones boys don’t want to overpay for outsiders. It’s never paid off. It doesn’t pay off for a lot of teams. The players that get you to the Super Bowl are usually the players you drafted except for the Rams this past season. They chose to trade away their first round picks for veterans. That will catch up with them in a couple of years.

Name one big time free agent this team has landed in the last 15 years. Name one. You have to go back to TO in the mid 2000's. (Roy Williams and Amari were both mid season acquisitions not free agents. Both trades were made out of desperation b/c the team did nothing in the off season.)

The problem is NOT that we overpay "outsiders". That's a false argument b/c we haven't done it. Instead, we overpay our own, and that hasn't worked out real well. The Rams have been to 2 out of that last 3 Super Bowls and are the current champs. You wouldn't trade that for a few years of cap hell? You prefer continuing with the status quo ?


The fact is that teams DO win Super Bowls in the off season by fixing holes and upgrading the talent. THAT sets the stage for winning. What you and apparently Stephen Jones propose is what the team actually does................ How many more decades of sucking and not appearing in any Super Bowls will convince you it doesn't work? We are at 26 years now.

 

[DallasEast]

 

[Sydla]

Name one big time free agent this team has landed in the last 15 years. Name one. You have to go back to TO in the mid 2000's. (Roy Williams and Amari were both mid season acquisitions not free agents. Both trades were made out of desperation b/c the team did nothing in the off season.)

The problem is NOT that we overpay "outsiders". That's a false argument b/c we haven't done it. Instead, we overpay our own, and that hasn't worked out real well. The Rams have been to 2 out of that last 3 Super Bowls and are the current champs. You wouldn't trade that for a few years of cap hell? You prefer continuing with the status quo ?


The fact is that teams DO win Super Bowls in the off season by fixing holes and upgrading the talent. THAT sets the stage for winning. What you and apparently Stephen Jones propose is what the team actually does................ How many more decades of sucking and not appearing in any Super Bowls will convince you it doesn't work? We are at 26 years now.

Stephen (and Jerry) have three flaws:

1) They overvalue their drafting capabilities. Yes, they've done a well enough job drafting but they truly believe they are so good that no matter the hole, they will be able to draft a replacement who will be successful.

2) They overvalue their own. I don't know if it's just loyalty or they have this bizarre desire to sign their own guys to big contracts so they can prove they draft so well, but they tend to overvalue their own guys, especially relative to their peers. Paying Elliott that contract is example #1. Offering $70 million to Gregory but then when he left, not pouring that slotted money into a better DE than Fowler also shows that it's not about filling positions of need. It's about rewarding Jerry's and Stephen's guys.

3) They have little concept on how to use FA wisely. I firmly believe that when it comes to FA, they set small budgets for outside FAs and someone doesn't fit into that pre-determined box, they have no real interest, regardless if that player is a fit and solves a pressing need. They want cheap warm bodies, not actual players that improve the roster.

 

[Big_D]

Even though there are plenty of examples, this one quote sums up how screwed this team is.

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[NeathBlue]

Someone needs to remind Cletus that it’s better to say nothing and be considered stupid, rather than say something and prove everyone correct….

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

You won’t win one either by doing nothing.

 

[kskboys]

Name one big time free agent this team has landed in the last 15 years. Name one. You have to go back to TO in the mid 2000's. (Roy Williams and Amari were both mid season acquisitions not free agents. Both trades were made out of desperation b/c the team did nothing in the off season.)

The problem is NOT that we overpay "outsiders". That's a false argument b/c we haven't done it. Instead, we overpay our own, and that hasn't worked out real well. The Rams have been to 2 out of that last 3 Super Bowls and are the current champs. You wouldn't trade that for a few years of cap hell? You prefer continuing with the status quo ?


The fact is that teams DO win Super Bowls in the off season by fixing holes and upgrading the talent. THAT sets the stage for winning. What you and apparently Stephen Jones propose is what the team actually does................ How many more decades of sucking and not appearing in any Super Bowls will convince you it doesn't work? We are at 26 years now.

We've tried, but due to our very poor player evaluations we end up paying big bucks to Brandon Carr.

 

[kskboys]

Stephen (and Jerry) have three flaws:

1) They overvalue their drafting capabilities. Yes, they've done a well enough job drafting but they truly believe they are so good that no matter the hole, they will be able to draft a replacement who will be successful.

2) They overvalue their own. I don't know if it's just loyalty or they have this bizarre desire to sign their own guys to big contracts so they can prove they draft so well, but they tend to overvalue their own guys, especially relative to their peers. Paying Elliott that contract is example #1. Offering $70 million to Gregory but then when he left, not pouring that slotted money into a better DE than Fowler also shows that it's not about filling positions of need. It's about rewarding Jerry's and Stephen's guys.

3) They have little concept on how to use FA wisely. I firmly believe that when it comes to FA, they set small budgets for outside FAs and someone doesn't fit into that pre-determined box, they have no real interest, regardless if that player is a fit and solves a pressing need. They want cheap warm bodies, not actual players that improve the roster.

4) They are absolutely awful at player evaluation. I mean, bottom of the NFL bad. They fall for every bit of hoopla about every player they are interested in. Good example was Brandon Carr, who was most obviously a #2 type CB. A simple evaluation of his skillset screamed #2. However, as w/ many many fans, they do not understand what a skillset is and how it generally determines a player's success.

 

[atlantacowboy]

We've tried, but due to our very poor player evaluations we end up paying big bucks to Brandon Carr.

Brandon Carr was an upgrade but hardly an impact signing. He was a mid level agent, and I hardly consider that "trying". The poor player evaluations are an ongoing organizational problem. We don't do very well evaluating the talent already in the NFL. Might explain why we don't trade much or turn to free agency to improve the team. Pure laziness.

 

[john van brocklin]

Or the regular season either. lol

Exactly !

 

[john van brocklin]

It’s why I call him Cheapskate Son. Lol

Contract ?
You mean Allowance ?