Position of need, take BPA

[Flamma]

Was referencing in respect to the obvious choice,, Parsons was clearly the obvious choice.
We were discussing BPA vs Need, so if a Burks were somehow there or another player, your pick, that slipped and shouldnt be still there.
You taking BPA over the need pick if Zion Johnson is still available?
Thats all I was alluding to, there is no right or wrong answer.

I don't see another Lamb situation happening for WR. Lamb shouldn't have been there at 17. You can't say that about Burks if he's there at 24. No way is any WR going to be clearly the BPA at pick 24 in this draft.

 

[kskboys]

I think BPA is the right approach but you have to couple that with FA to make sure all your needs are at least adequately filled in Free Agency. The Cowboys did not get a starting caliber LG in free agency so they have a glaring hole at LG going into the draft. They have a somewhat smaller hole at WR. They cannot take a chance on missing out on a starting LG by drafting a position of lesser need. With each round the odds of finding a starting LG for 2022 decreases significantly. I am a big believer in BPA, but this year I am forced to alter my thinking. Not getting a LG in the draft will be devastating to the offense.

This is kinda funny!!! You say BPA, but then explain why we shouldn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kskboys]

Dallas took Taco because of a major need and have done so other the course of time, taking players based on need but not necessarily the BPA

Taco was BPA.

 

[Jfconrow]

I have a little diff view but nothing I can do about it unless they bring back the intersite mock draft. I would do one of two things:

DE in the first or OL(LG, LT, or C/OG, maybe a RT I kind of like Zion). If I can I trade down on the first because I would like a RB and LB in that round.

The mid rounds is where I would go DE, WR, OG, S. Then in the 5th I’d add beef in the trenches with some DTs and OLineman plus another RB and TE.

 

[CouchCoach]

I don't see another Lamb situation happening for WR. Lamb shouldn't have been there at 17. You can't say that about Burks if he's there at 24. No way is any WR going to be clearly the BPA at pick 24 in this draft.

Depends on the boards of the teams and I've seen a lot of mock boards and few the same.

Even the ranking of WR's is all over the place. I have seen Burks as high as 2 and not even in the top 5 in others.

 

[Flamma]

Depends on the boards of the teams and I've seen a lot of mock boards and few the same.

Even the ranking of WR's is all over the place. I have seen Burks as high as 2 and not even in the top 5 in others.

WRs Wilson, Williams and Olave, maybe. If every other option is exhausted. But I'm not drafting Burks or London in the first round. No way. If you need a WR draft Dotson in the second. But I'd rather wait until the 3rd for a WR if at all. We need to focus on our OL for anything to work.

 

[DFWJC]

I think some around here still look at BPA as an absolute vs a tier thing. It's NOT take player 99 over player 100 regardless of need.....that's preposterous.

If you have a bunch of players all still in your top remaining tier, then of course go with need among the players grouped n that tier because you are splitting hairs anyway

Where teams blow it is when they reach for a player in an altogether lower tier to fill a need when they have a far better player still available left in a higher tier, but at a lesser need.
In that case, take the BPA (highest tier player) or trade down

 

[conner01]

Maybe it's just me, but I get the impression OC isn't as much priority at the Star as with fans/media.

We will see
My guess is one of three guys, barring anything total crazy, will be Linderbaum, Zion or green
If Zion is gone it’s really about which need you think because green and Linderbaum are fairly equal in talent at their position. I think Zion could be a really stud guard

 

[xwalker]

BPA is overblown. I think if you’re on the clock at 24 there could be 3 to 5 players on the list of possibilities. You can’t stick to a list of 300 players with numerous different positions. That would be ridiculously stupid.

There could easily be a clear cut BPA at #24. A player projected in the top half of round 1 that falls to #24.

In later rounds teams can't draft strictly BPA; otherwise, they might end up drafting an OG in all rounds.

• Note about Position Value:
  • The best available OLineman is almost always an OG after the 1st round.
  • The 1st round often starts with 4 to 6 OTs drafted before the first OG.
  • At the point a team is deciding between the 5th OT or 1st OG, the OG is the BPA but position value often results in the OT being picked.
  • The same concept appliers to all 'premium' positions vs all 'non-premium' positions.
  • The Franchise Tag values are a good example of how the NFL values positions.
    • Oddly, they don't divide OL into OT vs Interior OL for the tag.
    • OG would be similar to TE or Safety on the Tag Value list.

• 2022 Franchise Tag Values
  • QB $29.70
  • LB $18.70
  • WR $18.42
  • DE $17.86
  • DT $17.40
  • CB $17.29
  • OL $16.66
  • S $12.91
  • TE $10.93
  • RB $9.57
  • ST $5.22

 

[xwalker]

I think some around here still look at BPA as an absolute vs a tier thing. It's NOT take player 99 over player 100 regardless of need.....that's preposterous.

If you have a bunch of players all still in your top remaining tier, then of course go with need among the players grouped n that tier because you are splitting hairs anyway

Where teams blow it is when they reach for a player in an altogether lower tier to fill a need when they have a far better player still available left in a higher tier, but at a lesser need.
In that case, take the BPA (highest tier player) or trade down

In 2017, the Cowboys had RB Dalvin Cook as the only remaining player with a 1st round grade when they picked at #28.
- The Cowboys drafted Taco.
- Cook was drafted at #41.
- I advocated during that draft to trade down to the early 2nd and draft Cook if they didn't have a clear cut decision at #28.
- They could have traded Cook or Zeke 2 years later and recouped the 2nd round pick.
- As has often been reported, the Cowboys indeed did not have a unanimous opinion between scouts/coaches on the pick of Taco.
- IMO, anytime a team is split on the decision with regards to scouting dept. vs coaches, a trade down would resolved the issue.
- Especially a small trade down because one of the players might still be available after the trade down.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Areas of need in my view is OG, OC, DT,LB and WR pretty much in that order. I would suggest you take the BPA that fill any of those needs. I think because we look for mid level FA the draft becomes even more critical. I suspect Cowboys will be more active in FA after the draft to fill needs with mid level FA.

I have OG, DE, DT, LB, TE, C then WR and RB next.

 

[CowboyRoy]

In 2017, the Cowboys had RB Dalvin Cook as the only remaining player with a 1st round grade when they picked at #28.
- The Cowboys drafted Taco.
- Cook was drafted at #41.
- I advocated during that draft to trade down to the early 2nd and draft Cook if they didn't have a clear cut decision at #28.
- They could have traded Cook or Zeke 2 years later and recouped the 2nd round pick.
- As has often been reported, the Cowboys indeed did not have a unanimous opinion between scouts/coaches on the pick of Taco.
- IMO, anytime a team is split on the decision with regards to scouting dept. vs coaches, a trade down would resolved the issue.
- Especially a small trade down because one of the players might still be available after the trade down.

Watt was there and they should have jumped. The Steelers were laughing in our faces when we took that bum Taco.

 

[Brooksey]

Areas of need in my view is OG, OC, DT,LB and WR pretty much in that order. I would suggest you take the BPA that fill any of those needs. I think because we look for mid level FA the draft becomes even more critical. I suspect Cowboys will be more active in FA after the draft to fill needs with mid level FA.

I the "best player" available is not a position of need you should still draft the best player anyway especially in the first two rounds

Now if they are "all equal with no separation" draft BPA/Pos of need.

 

[baltcowboy]

There is no reason the Cowboys should not take the bpa. The Cowboys have plenty of cap space to bring in a swing tackle, Flowers at guard, Saunders at receiver and Clowney at defensive end after the draft to fill needs.

 

[Whirlwin]

Areas of need in my view is OG, OC, DT,LB and WR pretty much in that order. I would suggest you take the BPA that fill any of those needs. I think because we look for mid level FA the draft becomes even more critical. I suspect Cowboys will be more active in FA after the draft to fill needs with mid level FA.

I would love for the draft to come before free agency. Offense of line for sure. Cox is coming back at linebacker

 

[Whirlwin]

I always believed in taking most worthy. You draft for need you don’t get the best player. You take the best player available. You’re not feeling a point of need . take the most worthy of what you need a time of draft

 

[Hawkeye0202]

There could easily be a clear cut BPA at #24. A player projected in the top half of round 1 that falls to #24.

In later rounds teams can't draft strictly BPA; otherwise, they might end up drafting an OG in all rounds.

• Note about Position Value:
  • The best available OLineman is almost always an OG after the 1st round.
  • The 1st round often starts with 4 to 6 OTs drafted before the first OG.
  • At the point a team is deciding between the 5th OT or 1st OG, the OG is the BPA but position value often results in the OT being picked.
  • The same concept appliers to all 'premium' positions vs all 'non-premium' positions.
  • The Franchise Tag values are a good example of how the NFL values positions.
    • Oddly, they don't divide OL into OT vs Interior OL for the tag.
    • OG would be similar to TE or Safety on the Tag Value list.

• 2022 Franchise Tag Values
  • QB $29.70
  • LB $18.70
  • WR $18.42
  • DE $17.86
  • DT $17.40
  • CB $17.29
  • OL $16.66
  • S $12.91
  • TE $10.93
  • RB $9.57
  • ST $5.22

Didn't know LBer had moved pass CB AND DE. Wonder if the value includes conventional AND 3-4 LBer ( Von Miller for example)

 

[john van brocklin]

Areas of need in my view is OG, OC, DT,LB and WR pretty much in that order. I would suggest you take the BPA that fill any of those needs. I think because we look for mid level FA the draft becomes even more critical. I suspect Cowboys will be more active in FA after the draft to fill needs with mid level FA.

I agree and hope your right about free agency.

 

[Bullflop]

BPA at a position of need is what most teams resort to, regardless of what their FO claims.

 

[CowboysExchange]

Your right, I should have put edge rusher in there as well. What I want to see is the BPA any any of those positions, not reach for a guy to fill in. Because as I said Dallas looks to the draft for key players so the margin of error is slim, FA I think we will see Cowboys take an active role after the draft to fill in spots. These are not high priced players but I see many decent FA that can come in and fill in areas that this team may need

te and rb too