I would not pay WR's big money

[Flamma]

really the saints the team with brees that went 7-9 3 straight years and have had some up and down years of late that team is a contender EVERY YEAR LMAO.. KC only of late but took 50 years to get back to a SB, that team??, what is it only the chiefs of the last 4 seasons LOL cherry pick much ..steelers?? when's the last time they truly contended remind me because your use of every YEAR sure is full of holes..

dak maybe not those 100$ bills but hes worth a 50 and a 20 brah a 5??!! what troll hating fan..its obvious.. same universe yes both live in the US the milky way i believe but yes they are elite one of maybe 3-4 per era claim that tag not as big gap as most want to claim. daks next tier after that

The teams that are contenders usually have very good QBs. They're usually contenders most of the time. I don't care about the last 50 years with the Chiefs. They have a very good QB right now and are a threat every year. The Cowboys are not.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

The teams that are contenders usually have very good QBs. They're usually contenders most of the time. I don't care about the last 50 years with the Chiefs. They have a very good QB right now and are a threat every year. The Cowboys are not.

And what’s more important, the teams with those QBs maintain contendership for long periods. People bring up Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Nick Foles as SB-winning QB’s, but what we’re those teams the following year? 5 years later? How much of a climb did it take prior? Previous SB appearances? Championship game appearances? Those were fortunate 1 year windows.

Peyton made it to the AFCCG in 2003, SB in 2006, and SB again in 2009.

Flacco ‘08 AFCCG, ‘11 AFCCG, ‘12 SB

Rodgers ‘10 SB, ‘14 NFCCG, ‘19 NFCCG, ‘20 NFCCG

Roethlisberger was in the 04 AFCCG, 05 SB, 08 SB, 09 AFCCG, and ‘10 SB.

Mahomes now ‘18 AFCCG, ‘19 SB, ‘20 SB, ‘21 AFCCG

You go with trying to catch lightning in a bottle, or build a consist year-to-year winner, which requires a bigtime QB.

 

[Mountaineerfan]

I think you draft a WR in second, Third round each year and let them jump on the revolving door.

 

[Risen Star]

For me, the salary cap is essentially my cornerback budget.

 

[BAT]

Has a bit of Ced Wilson optionality to his game.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I don't think any starting rookie QBs ever made it to a SB. I think it's the rookie contract in general. The 5th year option is no longer a bargain. I think it's over 20M for QBs.

Yah so how long do you really have? 2 or 3 years?

it’s luck as much as anything.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That’s an anecdote in a vacuum. Overall, all numbers are up, it’s more popular than ever

If you tell me you were rooting for 40 million I’ll concede the point. But we both know you and I both want to get a good deal for the sake of the team. Any true fan wants a bargain.

 

[blueblood70]

The teams that are contenders usually have very good QBs. They're usually contenders most of the time. I don't care about the last 50 years with the Chiefs. They have a very good QB right now and are a threat every year. The Cowboys are not.

nice back track lol daks a very good qb not elite but for sure not holding us back, now move on.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

If you tell me you were rooting for 40 million I’ll concede the point. But we both know you and I both want to get a good deal for the sake of the team. Any true fan wants a bargain.

Right, We root the for the team. But that does not preclude ever taking the players’ side over the owners.

Here’s an alternate question: Cowboys cut Micah Parsons, Zack Martin, Diggs, Lawrence, Tyron, Pollard as a show of ownership dominance and that they run the show. In an alternate universe, The joneses are bought out and a new ownership group comes in to take over the current team. Which of these scenarios would make you happier?

The players are the team, and we root for the team. The owners are just there to make sure the whole structure doesn’t fall apart. (unless they’re also there to build the team and self-promote, but that’s a rare circumstance).

 

[Flamma]

nice back track lol daks a very good qb not elite but for sure not holding us back, now move on.

I don't think he's holding us back. The Cowboys clearly have more problems than Dak. And Dak is a good QB. But no way are we ever going to have the success of teams with elite QBs. And we haven't since Troy Aikman. The stars have to align properly for a season. If they do, yes, I think Dak can do it. But it's not going to happen every year where we're contenders.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Right, We root the for the team. But that does not preclude ever taking the players’ side over the owners.

Here’s an alternate question: Cowboys cut Micah Parsons, Zack Martin, Diggs, Lawrence, Tyron, Pollard as a show of ownership dominance and that they run the show. In an alternate universe, The joneses are bought out and a new ownership group comes in to take over the current team. Which of these scenarios would make you happier?

The players are the team, and we root for the team. The owners are just there to make sure the whole structure doesn’t fall apart. (unless they’re also there to build the team and self-promote, but that’s a rare circumstance).

I dont care about all the other sides. But when it comes to money, I want them to get as little as possible for salary cap reasons.

The players are NOT the team. The TEAM is the team. And certain players can hurt the team from being as good as it can be by either sucking or taking too much of the cap. After all, more for them is less for their mates. Greedy isnt good for anyone but the person getting greedy.

The owners created all this and keep it together. They promote and run the league from the beginning and into the future. The players simply show up to their part time, childs dream job and perform. Often times, poorly and poorly prepared.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I dont care about all the other sides. But when it comes to money, I want them to get as little as possible for salary cap reasons.

The players are NOT the team. The TEAM is the team. And certain players can hurt the team from being as good as it can be by either sucking or taking too much of the cap. After all, more for them is less for their mates. Greedy isnt good for anyone but the person getting greedy.

The owners created all this and keep it together. They promote and run the league from the beginning and into the future. The players simply show up to their part time, childs dream job and perform. Often times, poorly and poorly prepared.

And the players can exceed their expectations and pick the team up beyond what anyone had predicted.

There are a thousand people on Earth right now who could do what John Mara does, what Jeffrey Lurie does, what Robert Kraft does. There aren’t even 50 who could do what Dak does. He is the commodity. When you sell the NFL to a new fan, you don’t sell Will Mcclay, you don’t sell Stephen Jones… you sell Dak Prescott.

I could make the counter argument to yours: owners didn’t earn their place at the top of an NFL team. What were Jerry’s NFL credentials before buying the Cowboys? He got rich on Oil, this is his midlife crisis. But instead of buying a Porsche like everyone else, he could afford a franchise. This is HIS child’s dream job: the Cowboys are his play thing. On the opposite end, Dak didn’t grow up on an oil field, he’s not trading stocks on Wall Street; Dak Prescott has trained his entire adult life (and most of his childhood) to be here. Football is his life far more than it ever was Jerry’s, even with his 30 years at the wheel.

Dak lives this. His body lives this. He brings his work home with him. He doesn’t have an offseason, he doesn’t travel around on his big yacht when everyone else is working. Jerry simply shows up to his part time, child’s dream job. Often times, poorly prepared.

 

[DuncanIso]

Wide Receivers are becoming like RB's: tons of them come out every year and you can get good ones in the 3rd and 4th round. And unlike 10 years ago, they produce right away, like RB's.

The Packers and Chiefs have figured this out, which is why they got rid of Adams and Hill. It will be interesting to see if the Eagles will come to regret paying Brown.

Unless you get a guy like Chase, I would not be signing WR's to massive deals. That includes Cee Dee Lamb.

Just my opinion

don’t turn us into the Pitt Pirates.

 

[CowboyRoy]

And the players can exceed their expectations and pick the team up beyond what anyone had predicted.

There are a thousand people on Earth right now who could do what John Mara does, what Jeffrey Lurie does, what Robert Kraft does. There aren’t even 50 who could do what Dak does. He is the commodity. When you sell the NFL to a new fan, you don’t sell Will Mcclay, you don’t sell Stephen Jones… you sell Dak Prescott.

I could make the counter argument to yours: owners didn’t earn their place at the top of an NFL team. What were Jerry’s NFL credentials before buying the Cowboys? He got rich on Oil, this is his midlife crisis. But instead of buying a Porsche like everyone else, he could afford a franchise. This is HIS child’s dream job: the Cowboys are his play thing. On the opposite end, Dak didn’t grow up on an oil field, he’s not trading stocks on Wall Street; Dak Prescott has trained his entire adult life (and most of his childhood) to be here. Football is his life far more than it ever was Jerry’s, even with his 30 years at the wheel.

Dak lives this. His body lives this. He brings his work home with him. He doesn’t have an offseason, he doesn’t travel around on his big yacht when everyone else is working. Jerry simply shows up to his part time, child’s dream job. Often times, poorly prepared.

You just flipped the script. Dak is the one that shows up to his part time childs dream job. Players come and go, the team remains.

And you are still missing the point. Its about the team, not the players. I really dont care who owns the team. What ever is best for the team and paying the players dumb contracts is bad for the team. Dak getting less money is better for the Cowboys.

Simple as that. And if you tell me that you were rooting for Dak to get 40 over 35 then you are lying. Which was again, my point.

 

[blueblood70]

I don't think he's holding us back. The Cowboys clearly have more problems than Dak. And Dak is a good QB. But no way are we ever going to have the success of teams with elite QBs. And we haven't since Troy Aikman. The stars have to align properly for a season. If they do, yes, I think Dak can do it. But it's not going to happen every year where we're contenders.

Troy wasn't elite that garbage if this was todays SM and zone microscopes his rs numbers were average he was jag stats wise On A HOF team with HOF coaches.Troy would get fried for al those sub 2900 yard games had TD/INTs total in the regular season weren't great.

sorry but that was Emmitt's team first , dominate OL, great defense, coaching staff full of future head coaches etc et. give that to dak or zeke they both ride that same wave. You are misting team play vs individual talents.. dak and Zeke are as talented as troy and Emmitt but in different era with different team and Not the same coaches..

lets give the great Troy nonsense a break. Yes he stepped up in the playoffs , so did foles, flacco, eli , Dilfer, and others. I mean when guys like Garoppolo and Goff can play in a SB you must be blind to the fact its TEAM game from gm, coaches and all 63 players. Sometimes you hit a nice wave of team play and it elevates other players..

sorry but Romo and Dak deserve better fan support, the hate is ridiculous.

 

[Flamma]

Troy wasn't elite that garbage if this was todays SM and zone microscopes his rs numbers were average he was jag stats wise On A HOF team with HOF coaches.Troy would get fried for al those sub 2900 yard games had TD/INTs total in the regular season weren't great.

sorry but that was Emmitt's team first , dominate OL, great defense, coaching staff full of future head coaches etc et. give that to dak or zeke they both ride that same wave. You are misting team play vs individual talents.. dak and Zeke are as talented as troy and Emmitt but in different era with different team and Not the same coaches..

lets give the great Troy nonsense a break. Yes he stepped up in the playoffs , so did foles, flacco, eli , Dilfer, and others. I mean when guys like Garoppolo and Goff can play in a SB you must be blind to the fact its TEAM game from gm, coaches and all 63 players. Sometimes you hit a nice wave of team play and it elevates other players..

sorry but Romo and Dak deserve better fan support, the hate is ridiculous.

I never said Troy Aikman was elite. Just that we were a consistent winner. Don't get me started with the Aiman crap. I liked him because we won super bowls with him. He was part of it. But I never thought he was a hall of famer. Back in the late 90s when I used to tell that to people at work, they laughed. Laughed, and told me to repeat it so that their friends could laugh too. These were Giants fans laughing. I've learned that opinion doesn't get much support.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

You just flipped the script. Dak is the one that shows up to his part time childs dream job. Players come and go, the team remains.

And you are still missing the point. Its about the team, not the players. I really dont care who owns the team. What ever is best for the team and paying the players dumb contracts is bad for the team. Dak getting less money is better for the Cowboys.

Simple as that. And if you tell me that you were rooting for Dak to get 40 over 35 then you are lying. Which was again, my point.

It’s good for football that Dak got 40m, that was best case scenario and no, I’m not lying. Underpaying players is not good for long term business, especially when the league’s income continually balloons.

You can’t have a team without players. Do you watch games to salute the Cowboys midfield logo? No, you go to watch the players. Looking at the stadium isn’t watching the team, buying the overpriced pretzels isn’t watching the team, watching the players is watching the team. The players ARE the team. The names change over time, but that fact doesn’t.

 

[kskboys]

And the players can exceed their expectations and pick the team up beyond what anyone had predicted.

There are a thousand people on Earth right now who could do what John Mara does, what Jeffrey Lurie does, what Robert Kraft does. There aren’t even 50 who could do what Dak does. He is the commodity. When you sell the NFL to a new fan, you don’t sell Will Mcclay, you don’t sell Stephen Jones… you sell Dak Prescott.

I could make the counter argument to yours: owners didn’t earn their place at the top of an NFL team. What were Jerry’s NFL credentials before buying the Cowboys? He got rich on Oil, this is his midlife crisis. But instead of buying a Porsche like everyone else, he could afford a franchise. This is HIS child’s dream job: the Cowboys are his play thing. On the opposite end, Dak didn’t grow up on an oil field, he’s not trading stocks on Wall Street; Dak Prescott has trained his entire adult life (and most of his childhood) to be here. Football is his life far more than it ever was Jerry’s, even with his 30 years at the wheel.

Dak lives this. His body lives this. He brings his work home with him. He doesn’t have an offseason, he doesn’t travel around on his big yacht when everyone else is working. Jerry simply shows up to his part time, child’s dream job. Often times, poorly prepared.

Please remove the following two words: "Often times".

Thank you

 

[Flamma]

It’s good for football that Dak got 40m, that was best case scenario and no, I’m not lying. Underpaying players is not good for long term business, especially when the league’s income continually balloons.

You can’t have a team without players. Do you watch games to salute the Cowboys midfield logo? No, you go to watch the players. Looking at the stadium isn’t watching the team, buying the overpriced pretzels isn’t watching the team, watching the players is watching the team. The players ARE the team. The names change over time, but that fact doesn’t.

It may be good for football, but if it doesn't pay off at some point, it's not going to be good for the Cowboys. His dead cap as a result of these restructures are piling up at an alarming rate.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It’s good for football that Dak got 40m, that was best case scenario and no, I’m not lying. Underpaying players is not good for long term business, especially when the league’s income continually balloons.

You can’t have a team without players. Do you watch games to salute the Cowboys midfield logo? No, you go to watch the players. Looking at the stadium isn’t watching the team, buying the overpriced pretzels isn’t watching the team, watching the players is watching the team. The players ARE the team. The names change over time, but that fact doesn’t.

look I get it. Your a casual fan. No big deal.

Selling pretzels? Lol