A stronger NFC East is good for the Cowboys

Creeper

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Yeah Jerry is comfortable as long as he’s winning the East. Hopefully the Eagles smash us this season so we can make some actual improvements next off-season.

This is a great point. We have to stop thinking like winning the East is our goal. The Eagles and Giants are not the competition. The goal should be to beat the Rams. Figure if we can beat the best teams in the conference, we should be able to beat the best teams in the division.

Regardless, the Cowboys did not get better in th e offseason no matter who they see as the competition.
 

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This is a great point. We have to stop thinking like winning the East is our goal. The Eagles and Giants are not the competition. The goal should be to beat the Rams. Figure if we can beat the best teams in the conference, we should be able to beat the best teams in the division.

Regardless, the Cowboys did not get better in th e offseason no matter who they see as the competition.
It is the goal though. Wins aren't as easy as having the luxury of not winning the division to get into the playoffs. It's literally the goal.
 

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It is the goal though. Wins aren't as easy as having the luxury of not winning the division to get into the playoffs. It's literally the goal.

It’s not the ultimate goal though. We’ve won the East many times over the past 25 years and that quarter century is still considered a massive failure.
 

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We don't need the division to be better.
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We need to be better. Better at maintaining a balanced attack throughout the regular season. Better at stopping the run in the playoffs. That's just two things people. Addressing those two things will make us better. Now have we done that? That's a good question.
 

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Not true, not true at all.

In 09, the Jones stated unequivocally that they had no needs. That resulted in the ST's draft.

In 2012 when faced w/ a deep and talented DLine draft, the Jones stated that they had no needs at DLine.

Facts are your friends!!!!!!

The '09 draft is legendary. :lmao2: It even sucked for a special teams draft. We can't even do that right.
 

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It’s not the ultimate goal though. We’ve won the East many times over the past 25 years and that quarter century is still considered a massive failure.
Without it, we go nowhere. Teams aren't planning for the Super Bowl before they even win the division.
 

ChronicCowboy

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Without it, we go nowhere. Teams aren't planning for the Super Bowl before they even win the division.

Are you incapable of thinking big? I’m tired of aiming for division wins because “anything can happen in the tournament once you’re there”. The past 25 years have shown that’s not true.

The roster needs to be ready to compete with the top teams in the NFC. Having just enough to skate by the Eagles is a waste of time.
 

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The Only way it’s good for us is IF we lose more games our draft oicks will be higher.
 

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Are you incapable of thinking big? I’m tired of aiming for division wins because “anything can happen in the tournament once you’re there”. The past 25 years have shown that’s not true.

The roster needs to be ready to compete with the top teams in the NFC. Having just enough to skate by the Eagles is a waste of time.
I'm illustrating how teams operate and think. They're focused on the next game period. The division is the goal until they exceed that goal. I'm a fan, thinking big translates to zero. Then again, I'm not stuck in the negative mindset some fans are. On the outside looking in, you would never know this team won 12 games. It sounds more like 7 around here.
 

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We can only hope that the other NFC East teams have improved. I think it will help the Cowboys change their mentality. The NFC East has been a virtual cakewalk for the Cowboys recently and it seemed to help give the team a sense that they were better than they really were. Each time they would win by double digits and the team seemed to get the big head. And then when they went against better teams, the Cowboys almost always got out played and out muscled.
Having tough division games should help in changing that mentality and help them better prepare for games against other top teams on their schedule.

They would have won it every year if it was such a cake walk. But get it, last year Cowboys looked so far ahead of everyone else and with retaining talent, jetisoning unreliable players and better coaching they should be in the mix in the eyes of the decision makers. I too think they should be in the mix, but on paper this isn't a better team. However, games aren't played on paper.
 

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Yeah Jerry is comfortable as long as he’s winning the East. Hopefully the Eagles smash us this season so we can make some actual improvements next off-season.
Giants won a super bowl and we got worst each time following.

Eagles wins. Super Bowl and we got worse
 

ChronicCowboy

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I'm illustrating how teams operate and think. They're focused on the next game period. The division is the goal until they exceed that goal. I'm a fan, thinking big translates to zero. Then again, I'm not stuck in the negative mindset some fans are. On the outside looking in, you would never know this team won 12 games. It sounds more like 7 around here.

Those wins amounted to nothing. You make too much of regular season success in my opinion as do most fans.
 

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Are you incapable of thinking big? I’m tired of aiming for division wins because “anything can happen in the tournament once you’re there”. The past 25 years have shown that’s not true.

The roster needs to be ready to compete with the top teams in the NFC. Having just enough to skate by the Eagles is a waste of time.
I read yours and G2's posts , and I think setting goal to win division is ok and normal.
what is needed however is a HC that wont let big div wins go to his players heads like mike did last year.
I watched the wash and phil games again and cowboys players and coaches, were acting like it was the super bowl .

Winning the div gets you in and maybe a home game, but you have to be good enough to beat the other playoff teams, and last year
it was clear dallas could not beat the teams that wound up in playoffs.

A tougher div would make dallas tougher, or a cellar team, which one would be up to them.

I still say main problem with dallas though is HC and OC.
 

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Putting a 40 burger on your opponent doesn't make you any better than a single practice session does... being actually changed does.
 

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How does my post make me not interested in winning?
It appears that way when you start whining because people are discussing how we can get better so we can win some playoff games.
 
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