CFZ Some fundamental sports truths I wish JJ would grasp

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We all know the Cowboys are still a very popular team in TV ratings and in monetary value. JJ often crows about the monetary value of the Cowboys more often than he talks about wins. And why not? What else can he brag about? It’s certainly not been about playoff wins around here for a very long time.

Part of the current problem with JJ being the centerpiece of the entire organization is he fails to understand several fundamental “sports truths”- things that are accurate about sports and winning championships. Here is a list of sports truths I wish Jerry Jones would grasp:
  • Winning championships is the greatest sales pitch in sports. Jerry is a great salesman. He wouldn’t have to sell anything if they started winning playoff games.
  • The Cowboys aren’t popular because of business decisions- they are popular because they used to win a lot of playoff games. The Cowboys were extremely popular before JJ bought the team. Why? Because our Cowboys played in 8 of the first 30 SBs. (Now, we’ve missed 26 in a row) The Cowboys won 31 playoff games in its first 36 years. We’ve won 4 in the last 26.
  • Fans really don’t care how much their favorite team is worth. Especially when they don’t win anything of importance anymore.
  • Not all publicity is good publicity. Negative stories (like player arrests or other off field distractions) are never good for the team’s ability to focus on winning.
  • Nepotism is bad for large organizations where accountability is needed. Most NFL owners recognize that hiring their kids for football operation decisions is detrimental to team success. There is a lot of research available now that shows that nepotism is disruptive to organizational health.
  • Being an NFL owner is one of the easiest, risk-free ways to make big money. Even the Jaguars owner made big bucks last year because of revenue sharing and big TV deals. NFL teams’ value has gone up exponentially in the last decade. An NFL owner could go 0-17 this year and still make tons of money.
I’m glad the Cowboys are popular. But I know it’s based almost entirely on its glorious past. I just wish our owner would wake up and realize some of these sports truths. Fans don’t care about how much money this team is worth. It’s about winning championships.
Couldn't agree more Bob, unfortunately too many fans (with a good number on this site and possibly Jerry himself) only view Jerry from his first 6 years of ownership and ignore the last 26 years.
This means we are condemned as fans to suffer for God knows how many more years to come.
 

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We all know the Cowboys are still a very popular team in TV ratings and in monetary value. JJ often crows about the monetary value of the Cowboys more often than he talks about wins. And why not? What else can he brag about? It’s certainly not been about playoff wins around here for a very long time.

Part of the current problem with JJ being the centerpiece of the entire organization is he fails to understand several fundamental “sports truths”- things that are accurate about sports and winning championships. Here is a list of sports truths I wish Jerry Jones would grasp:
  • Winning championships is the greatest sales pitch in sports. Jerry is a great salesman. He wouldn’t have to sell anything if they started winning playoff games.
  • The Cowboys aren’t popular because of business decisions- they are popular because they used to win a lot of playoff games. The Cowboys were extremely popular before JJ bought the team. Why? Because our Cowboys played in 8 of the first 30 SBs. (Now, we’ve missed 26 in a row) The Cowboys won 31 playoff games in its first 36 years. We’ve won 4 in the last 26.
  • Fans really don’t care how much their favorite team is worth. Especially when they don’t win anything of importance anymore.
  • Not all publicity is good publicity. Negative stories (like player arrests or other off field distractions) are never good for the team’s ability to focus on winning.
  • Nepotism is bad for large organizations where accountability is needed. Most NFL owners recognize that hiring their kids for football operation decisions is detrimental to team success. There is a lot of research available now that shows that nepotism is disruptive to organizational health.
  • Being an NFL owner is one of the easiest, risk-free ways to make big money. Even the Jaguars owner made big bucks last year because of revenue sharing and big TV deals. NFL teams’ value has gone up exponentially in the last decade. An NFL owner could go 0-17 this year and still make tons of money.
I’m glad the Cowboys are popular. But I know it’s based almost entirely on its glorious past. I just wish our owner would wake up and realize some of these sports truths. Fans don’t care about how much money this team is worth. It’s about winning championships.

Despite the occasional lip service, what fans want is at the bottom of Jerry's list (if it is even on the list at all). It's about him, his family, and his guys.

It will be run his way until he dies, whether they win anything or not. He can do that because, as you noted, the money is going to roll in, regardless.
 

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Despite the occasional lip service, what fans want is at the bottom of Jerry's list (if it is even on the list at all). It's about him, his family, and his guys.

It will be run his way until he dies, whether they win anything or not. He can do that because, as you noted, the money is going to roll in, regardless.
I’m not sure we can stop that money train . I waved that white flag years ago. But we can continue calling him , his ways and the results out.
 

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That’s not the support I’m speaking of . Now you’re just trolling me .

I’m taking about supporting his ways . We have fans who actually defend the product he’s been fielding this era and some even believe he’s what’s best for Cowboys Football.
But if you're watching the games & contributing to a Dallas discussion forum, isn't that support?
So it's conditional support?
 

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Jerry knows all of this and does not care because he wants to run the team his way. Like drilling for oil, he is essentially doing the same with the Cowboys history. He has tapped into a well that keeps on giving.
 

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Great post, Bob. :hammer:

I will submit since Jerry hired a pseudo GM the Cowboys have gotten much better at drafting. I only wish he was more open minded about free agency. I do think every team has a short window of opportunity and the smart teams understand this. They will use the draft, trades and free agency to build their rosters even if they know it may result in only a 1 or 2 year window to win a championship before the CAP crushes them. Jerry is attempting to build his team draft only and it is not working. The problem is it seems to take Jerry about 10 years to realize he must change his strategy if he wants to compete. It may take him 5 more years to figure out he needs to use free agency to plug holes in his roster.
 

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A good start to what. We’ve had a couple 13-3’s , a 12-4, 11-5 and what did they start ?

This is just more apologetic material to support our dysfunctional ownership.

Do you actually believe Jethro and Son are what’s best for Cowboys Football?
I am just looking at what they did last year and where they are today. How can you be so negative when they have players like Parsons and Diggs and have one of the best teams in the NFC? Last year got me very excited about this year. I think that Quinn is one of the best coaches in the league. I'm looking forward for the upcoming season.
 

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The only decision I know Jerry has made here lately is keeping Moore and hiring McCarthy. Does anyone have proof that he's made any other decisions than those?
 

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I think we all accept the reality as such . But that doesn’t mean we can’t continue calling out how he runs Cowboys Football and what it’s meant to our lack of success this era. And we still can cheer the team on.
That's true. This is a discussion forum. I guess my point is that Jerry isn't going to grasp these "fundamental truths" so if a person is pointing out what he needs to do, that's one thing. If they're hoping he does, then they might as well just hold their breath unto the point of passing out because Jerry isn't going to take any recommendation we have to offer.

Call it my resignation setting in. ;)
 

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I’m not sure we can stop that money train . I waved that white flag years ago. But we can continue calling him , his ways and the results out.
To what avail?

We are not even on his site any longer so even that is gone. Which wasn’t much but it was something unique.

The old sob is like death and taxes.
 

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We all know the Cowboys are still a very popular team in TV ratings and in monetary value. JJ often crows about the monetary value of the Cowboys more often than he talks about wins. And why not? What else can he brag about? It’s certainly not been about playoff wins around here for a very long time.

Part of the current problem with JJ being the centerpiece of the entire organization is he fails to understand several fundamental “sports truths”- things that are accurate about sports and winning championships. Here is a list of sports truths I wish Jerry Jones would grasp:
  • Winning championships is the greatest sales pitch in sports. Jerry is a great salesman. He wouldn’t have to sell anything if they started winning playoff games.
  • The Cowboys aren’t popular because of business decisions- they are popular because they used to win a lot of playoff games. The Cowboys were extremely popular before JJ bought the team. Why? Because our Cowboys played in 8 of the first 30 SBs. (Now, we’ve missed 26 in a row) The Cowboys won 31 playoff games in its first 36 years. We’ve won 4 in the last 26.
  • Fans really don’t care how much their favorite team is worth. Especially when they don’t win anything of importance anymore.
  • Not all publicity is good publicity. Negative stories (like player arrests or other off field distractions) are never good for the team’s ability to focus on winning.
  • Nepotism is bad for large organizations where accountability is needed. Most NFL owners recognize that hiring their kids for football operation decisions is detrimental to team success. There is a lot of research available now that shows that nepotism is disruptive to organizational health.
  • Being an NFL owner is one of the easiest, risk-free ways to make big money. Even the Jaguars owner made big bucks last year because of revenue sharing and big TV deals. NFL teams’ value has gone up exponentially in the last decade. An NFL owner could go 0-17 this year and still make tons of money.
I’m glad the Cowboys are popular. But I know it’s based almost entirely on its glorious past. I just wish our owner would wake up and realize some of these sports truths. Fans don’t care about how much money this team is worth. It’s about winning championships.

This notion that Jerry doenst care about winning championships is nonsense. Its laughable actually. He cares about it as much if not more then anyone else. The issue with Jerry is two fold:

1. He wants to do it his way and thats the ONLY way. If anything he cares too much about getting the credit. Its probably why he wont seed power and decision making to others that know football better than him

2. Jerry really and truly thinks that he knows what he is doing. His ego is so big that he cant grasp that he isnt the best man for the job. Which he clearly isnt.

All that stuff about the Cowboys being the most valuable franchise are just things that he can say to deflect away from his failures as a GM so he reminds everyone. It also gives us an understanding of why he isnt a good GM. Because much of his focus is on making money and promoting the Cowboys when a REAL GM would be spending every waking moment on winning championships.
 

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The only decision I know Jerry has made here lately is keeping Moore and hiring McCarthy. Does anyone have proof that he's made any other decisions than those?
He is the final word so if he approves that decision gets attributed to someone else but everything on that team is with his final approval.
 

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The Jones' won't even hire a football GM, even if it was just a title in name only. Until they actually start surrounding themselves with real football people, it won't get much better. Zeke, Dak, Dlaw, Crawford, Jaylon Smith are all recent examples of bad contracts. Because Dallas doesn't have a real GM.

Well, to some extent I think that Jerry as at the very least gotten better at surrounding himself with better people. McClay has been great and then going from Garrett to MM has made a big difference as well.
 

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The thing that amazes me about how loyal Cowboys fans are- our love for this team is greater than JJs disrespect for us as fans. He could hold ticket prices at the same level for 5 years and still make billions. He even raised ticket prices again this year. His disdain for Cowboys fans is incredible.

I sold my PSL's in 2016, and not one regret for a split second. It was like a huge burden lifted off of me as it pushed me further down. As to waiting and selling the tickets, hoping to at least get break even for the year. Which I was able to make enough to pay to go to a game or 2 for basically free. I was working out of town a lot, so could not get back for all the games, so sold them most of the time.
I always text a friend, that I had split the PSL's with for awhile. After every stupid loss, or once bounced from the playoffs....I am glad I was able to dump the seats...:laugh:
No regrets. I have not been to a game since 2014, the Detroit playoff game.

I look for last minute deals now days, but find nothing for the section I want. Taxes and fees are almost as much as the seats. :laugh:
 

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he publicly says that and while it was true the first 5-10 years post Jimmy, its no longer is the case and i can see it in many moves and non-moves i know the Jonses would have done and did not.

im sorry WM is the key GM regardless of his title..that what im saying, Crystal clear means jerry wants us all to believe it, that doesn't make it true..i said he luvs owing the title, the function and duties are shared amongst many.

you can keep hounding the owners with 32 years of professional experience and tell them what to do but that doesn't make you rights. Its an ego deal, you can write all you want , question all you want, they Jonses still have 1000s of hours more in running a pro sports teams the you and you have zero idea what goes on behind closed doors at the ranch.

You know what they "ALLOW" you to know..

SMH some truly egomaniacal fans thinking what they hear and read is all the facts and then parroting it as if you all know how to fix what's broken from a keyboard. lol Im glad that gives you purpose here in the internet world with keyboard powers on a sports forum..

I liken it to the POTUS position if you think the Potus has full powers and makes all the decisions and everything said to the public is the actual facts'. You haven't been paying attention. The jonses do run the team similarly in that they appear from all public views to be the sole owners, GM, presidents and player personal departimnts..

they are not, they have staff and specific roles for large staff that aide in influencing the final decisions..

oh and in response to limiting distracitons

as if they know players are going get in trouble to somehow get ahead if it when we have seen charts other teams many have hard more arrests and players with trouble.. they are dipping from the same pool of humans that we see in real life..you cant control everything..
Ok so your point is our front office; Jerry, McClay, Stephen specifically; are proven qualified football guys. With their expertise, experience, and 1000s of hours of doing football stuff they are as qualified as anyone. Ok cool, that's your opinion and I respect that. My question to you is with a qualified Owner, GM, Football minds why the 27 year playoff failures?
 

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1. A grandiose sense of self-importance, and exaggerating achievements and talents
2. Dreams of unlimited power, success, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. Requires excessive admiration
4. Believes he or she is special and unique, and can only be understood by, or should associate with other special or high-status people (or institutions)
5. Lacks empathy for the feelings and needs of others
6. Unreasonably expects special, favorable treatment or compliance with his or her wishes
7. Exploits and takes advantage of others to achieve personal ends
8. Envies others or believes they’re envious of him or her
9. Has “an attitude” of arrogance or acts that way

Pick any five listed above that describes someone and you may be observing a narcissist. Let's see:

Number 1? Names himself President and General Manager even though he owns an NFL franchise?

Check.

Number 3? Cannot appoint an official spokesperson, hogs press conferences, creates throne rooms (sorry, draft room) squatting himself at its center?

Check.

Number 4? Remains steadfast as general manager despite 33 straight years of accumulated mixed results?

Check.

Number 7? Sometimes "allows" outsiders (i.e. Will McClay) to join his select inner circle to assess and acquire roster talent, while bragging how well decision-making happens with him in charge (i.e. flashing draft order paper unnecessarily to the media)?

Check.

Number 8? Constantly hypes the value of his franchise for the media and his peers to read and listen?

Check.

1,2,3,4,5.

Yeah. That's simply ego making him ignorant of properly running a football team and appeasing his franchise's fanbase.

lol.
 

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But if you're watching the games & contributing to a Dallas discussion forum, isn't that support?
So it's conditional support?
Again, I’m not speaking about that kind of support.
 

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I am just looking at what they did last year and where they are today. How can you be so negative when they have players like Parsons and Diggs and have one of the best teams in the NFC? Last year got me very excited about this year. I think that Quinn is one of the best coaches in the league. I'm looking forward for the upcoming season.
I’m not being negative about our players . I’m only pointing out how our dysfunctional ownership this era is directly associated with our lack of success and toxic culture which despite whatever talent we have assembled challenges and obstructs from more success on the field .
 
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That's true. This is a discussion forum. I guess my point is that Jerry isn't going to grasp these "fundamental truths" so if a person is pointing out what he needs to do, that's one thing. If they're hoping he does, then they might as well just hold their breath unto the point of passing out because Jerry isn't going to take any recommendation we have to offer.

Call it my resignation setting in. ;)
Yep

All we can do is keep the pressure on publicly. He at least has to provide some responses regardless if it makes any difference or not . Just because we must accept the abuse doesn’t mean we have to like it or can’t complain about it.
 
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