I'm not saying Dak is better than Mahomes

[ESisback]

And also emerged with six Super Bowl rings.
How many has Dak won beating up on the NFCLeast?

First off, NO ONE is saying Dak’s career has been as successful as Brady’s or Mahommes or Rogers. Personally, I’ve said MANY times that Dak is somewhere in the 10-15 range for current QB1’s, but despite that they could still win with Dak, considering several teams have without elite QBs. Team sport, friends! There IS a double standard though, where stats are positive reinforcement for some, but not for others. Secondly, the NFCE hasn’t been down as long as the AFCE was when the Pats were dominating, AND there were actually two divisions with a worse record the past couple of years, so “least” isn’t even accurate. In addition, people seem to forget that NO division boasts more Lombardi’s than the NFCE.

 

[Ken]

who will have ... this year or who has had this past year?

This year coming up. Who will have a better year statistically?

I have often said that Hill and Kelce covered a lot of blemishes on Mahommie....he lost a big chunk of that and really didn't replace him.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

This year coming up. Who will have a better year statistically?

I have often said that Hill and Kelce covered a lot of blemishes on Mahommie....he lost a big chunk of that and really didn't replace him.

And we lost Cooper, Wilson, and Collins.

Ya know, Cooper? The guy that literally saved Dak's career. He's gone now.

 

[Ken]

And we lost Cooper, Wilson, and Collins.

Ya know, Cooper? The guy that literally saved Dak's career. He's gone now.

So make the bet....

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

This year coming up. Who will have a better year statistically?

I have often said that Hill and Kelce covered a lot of blemishes on Mahommie....he lost a big chunk of that and really didn't replace him.

What do you consider statistically better?

What statistics are you weighing more than others?

 

[ESisback]

Because you follow the Cowboys. When the Packers lose to a bad team, up there, the media kills them.

Yeah, up there, the difference being the media kills Dallas nonstop nationwide. When Dallas plays someone like Tampa, virtually all of the “experts” pick Tampa. That same week they’ll say KC or Pittsburgh or New England will dominate Detroit or Cleveland or the Jets or Jags, but when an upset happens, all they can talk about is “Dallas lost!” If Dallas is NOT America’s Team, if they suck so bad, and are the laughingstock of the NFL, why is their loss the #1 topic nationwide?

 

[G2]

I bet that made sense in your head.

What's the reason someone whines about a thread but keeps posting in it over and over unless they secretly have a woodrow over it?

 

[Ken]

What do you consider statistically better?

What statistics are you weighing more than others?

the main ones...comp %, Yards, TDs, Ints, Rating...

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

the main ones...comp %, Yards, TDs, Ints, Rating...

What's the bet?

 

[Ken]

Just bragging rights....unless you want to make it more. Whatever.

 

[ESisback]

This argument would work a lot better if Brady didn't lead his teams to TEN TRIPS TO THE SUPER BOWL AND SEVEN RINGS.

When some teams win, it’s the QB1, and when they lose, the team. Conversely, when other teams win, it’s the team, but when THEY lose, it’s the QB1. Dak is the latter.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Just bragging rights....unless you want to make it more. Whatever.

I'll take that bet IF we can agree that it's voided if an injury to Dak or Mahomes causes them to miss 3 or more games?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

When some teams win, it’s the QB1, and when they lose, the team. Conversely, when other teams win, it’s the team, but when THEY lose, it’s the QB1. Dak is the latter.

Notice I said "Brady led teams".

I didn't say Brady did it by himself.

That's something ya'll do with Dak.

 

[Sydla]

Yeah, up there, the difference being the media kills Dallas nonstop nationwide. When Dallas plays someone like Tampa, virtually all of the “experts” pick Tampa. That same week they’ll say KC or Pittsburgh or New England will dominate Detroit or Cleveland or the Jets or Jags, but when an upset happens, all they can talk about is “Dallas lost!” If Dallas is NOT America’s Team, if they suck so bad, and are the laughingstock of the NFL, why is their loss the #1 topic nationwide?

The experts picked Tampa because at the time, any sane person thought they were the better team and were playing at home.

And guess what? They were right.

 

[ESisback]

Again,

That horrible take would work if Brady led teams didn't march through the playoffs every year.

You’re not hearing anything, so what’s the point of continuing this?

 

[G2]

The experts picked Tampa because at the time, any sane person thought they were the better team and were playing at home.

And guess what? They were right.

Not they game I would have used as a bragging example.

 

[Ken]

I'll take that bet IF we can agree that it's voided if an injury to Dak or Mahomes causes them to miss 3 or more games?

Ya, I like that.

I just can't believe what KC is running out there as weapons. Valdes Scantling, Hardman and JuJu is a massive downgrade from Hill. Hill alone changes how a defense plays them. None of those guys scare a defense at all.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Are you saying Mahomes having 6 400 yard games is true?

I really hope you are.

no, don't go trying to spin as you always do. your reputation precedes you.

what he said its partially true...not an "out right lie"....again, don't be a drama queen. its not becoming.

 

[ESisback]

Notice I said "Brady led teams".

I didn't say Brady did it by himself.

That's something ya'll do with Dak.

Not at all. How many times do we have to say “Team game”? How many people need to tell you that Dak is somewhere between 10-15?

You only hear whatever you think validates your agenda, so what’s the point of continuing this? You’re not changing anyone’s opinion, and most real fans don’t care about your agenda.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Ya, I like that.

I just can't believe what KC is running out there as weapons. Valdes Scantling, Hardman and JuJu is a massive downgrade from Hill. Hill alone changes how a defense plays them. None of those guys scare a defense at all.

I would say Kelce by himself offsets Schultz and Gallup (when/if healthy).

Hardman is better than Washington and Brown

Valdes Scantling is better than Washington and Brown

JuJu (If healthy) is better than Washington and Brown.

Lamb is the best of all of them from what we've seen, because we have no idea how Lamb will be without Cooper taking the heat off him. We can say the same for Hill being gone taking the heat off other guys too, but all we have to go on is what we've seen so far.

Everyone for the Cowboys and Chiefs are better than Tolbert until we see Tolbert in action.