Are some of you mad at how we are building the team through the draft?

America's Cowboy

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In most situations those who speak up and don't buy everything they are sold are usually the groups that cause change to take place. When you display your displeasure it's hard to just ignore it.

The ones who blindly clap like seals, pump their chest because of meaningless stuff, brag about success from a quarter of a century ago, and do as they are told like good little followers are the ones who enable ineptitude to continue to flourish and run rampant.

I'll support this team my way and you support the team your way, k?
You sound like one of them public whining rabble rousers.
 

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Teams from 27 years ago have nothing to do with this team. Do you like the way they are building this current team or not? Simple question.
Already answered you, but you're so into arguing that you missed it.

Shameful because you generally know your stuff but I don't come here to fight and argue.

By the same means I'm not listening to someone (not you, the other guy) tell me how everything Jerry and son do is great and is working because they manged to win 12 games in a crappy division last year.
 

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I don't see this as 27 years, I see each HC tenure. Currently McCarthy is the HC and I will not put years he was not here on him. entering his 3rd season and he will be judged by the end results. As for FA pickups one the biggest in my view on keeping Kearse he provided beyond what I expected from him. Going outside in FA yes there are mid level FA that I think Cowboys should look to bring in.
 

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And that’s assuming they’ll still be here. Another disappointing ending to this season could stir the pot. It’s so difficult to look ahead with our dysfunctional leadership.

What a disappointing end? I dont think we can gauge that until we see this particular team perform.

2021 was such a disappointment at the end because at midseason the Cowboys were destroying the league at 7-1. At that point they had set the bar. They were a true contender the way they were playing.

But lets not forgot the trolls and clowns predicting 7-10 type seasons before the year started and wanting to go on a full fledged rebuild.

And its a lot of these same doom and gloomers that are complaining we went 12-5 and made the playoffs.

Its only disappointing if you are able to have realistic predictions about what they are capable of.
 

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Already answered you, but you're so into arguing that you missed it.

Shameful because you generally know your stuff but I don't come here to fight and argue.

By the same means I'm not listening to someone (not you, the other guy) tell me how everything Jerry and son do is great and is working because they manged to win 12 games in a crappy division last year.

I think its you that doesnt listen. NO one told you everything jerry does is right. You havent answered the question one time. All you did was make some off hand cry baby comment that we havent done anything in 27 years.

Which has nothing to do with what I asked. But I will stop responding to you as you are simply here to cry and pout.
 

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Personally I dont like how they use FA. And they usually wind up overspending for their own guys until this year.

However, I also think this offseason was the time to pay big money for an over the hump FA.

I don't really like how they use FA either. They can certainly do better. They do not do top tier, and overpay. They do lower tier for these 1 year deals. And skip a lot of the middle up upper middle tier, where spending a little more on a 2 or 3 year deal could be better.

And they do tend to over rate some of their own players and draft picks. I think they panicked and overpaid Armstrong once Gregory bailed. I think if Gregory stayed, they would have let Armstrong test the waters in FA. Or offered far less. And brought in Fowler because of it. We will see how all that works out. I feel the defense is better off this way, as then they drafted Sam Williams as well.
 

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Already answered you, but you're so into arguing that you missed it.

Shameful because you generally know your stuff but I don't come here to fight and argue.

By the same means I'm not listening to someone (not you, the other guy) tell me how everything Jerry and son do is great and is working because they manged to win 12 games in a crappy division last year.
That other guy (me) is here to tell you to be a bit more patient and realize how this team is being built. It's a very good sign, especially if they win the division back-to-back this year and make the playoffs once again. Players are not stupid. The more they experience success, the more they want to continue it and get better.
 

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You sound like one of them public whining rabble rousers.
And you sound like you think the way you're told to think.

Jerry say's the Cowboys are great. So you think the Cowboys are great.

Jerry say's the Cowboys are contenders. So you think the Cowboys are contenders.

Jerry gives someone a fat contract. So you think they're tops in the NFL at their position.

The wool is over your eyes and you love it that way.
 

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Or are you just upset that we aren't using FA to sign a couple high priced guys from other teams that will get us over the top?

Mad?

Why would I be mad?

We have a ton of cap space, and also have a pretty solid roster with our cap space.

That means we can sign guys like Parsons and Diggs in the future. We're able to sign guys who we build the team around.

I personally feel like Diggs is probably the most underrated Cowboy. To me, he's the kind of player you need to win Super Bowls.

I also love the way we picked up James Washington, quietly. He's going be quite the surprise, I suspect.
 

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Ultimately nothing to analyze until we have some results . Otherwise it becomes more of a fortune teller which I’m not.

Im glad you feel good about how we’re building the team which I’m not arguing.

Personally I make my predictions based on results , prior history and current trends . Once those begin to develop as the season unfolds I can provide a better sense.

Its simple buddy, do you like how they are currently building the team? Yes, no, some of it, which part?

I guess if your saying that you have no clue, well that is fine too.

I can answer the question easily.
 

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I think its you that doesnt listen. NO one told you everything jerry does is right. You havent answered the question one time. All you did was make some off hand cry baby comment that we havent done anything in 27 years.

Which has nothing to do with what I asked. But I will stop responding to you as you are simply here to cry and pout.
You: Are you not happy with the teams approach?

Me: It hasn't worked, but they sure act like it does.

Another guy: They won 12 games last last year. Something must be right.

Me: What about the results from prior years?

Both of you: Whiner! Go away! You didn't say what I wanted you to!!

Saying I whine all the time is ridiculous and you pick and choose which to remember. But whatever. I ain't here for you.
 

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Building through the draft is the right approach, though I feel like we didnt do enough to address the O-line, alot of questions mark there remain and unproven talent.
 

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Not at all.. in fact the leading path is building the core and nucleus of your team is thru the NFL draft.

i just do not like that we choose to only go NFL draft, and re-signing existing core players when it comes to the overall direction of the team.

Not believing in acquiring that key " middle ground " vet FA signing or splash trades that could be a next step higher .

All of the big SB contenders tend to do that . Rams, Pats, Ravens, Steelers ...
But that will never happen with us .... with Stephen Jones who prefers more the Money Ball approach.
It continues to limit us, in our drive to the SB, ..
 

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What a disappointing end? I dont think we can gauge that until we see this particular team perform.

2021 was such a disappointment at the end because at midseason the Cowboys were destroying the league at 7-1. At that point they had set the bar. They were a true contender the way they were playing.

But lets not forgot the trolls and clowns predicting 7-10 type seasons before the year started and wanting to go on a full fledged rebuild.

And its a lot of these same doom and gloomers that are complaining we went 12-5 and made the playoffs.

Its only disappointing if you are able to have realistic predictions about what they are capable of.
I’d agree with much of this . I see this team as rebuilding or at least retooling . A 10 win season looks more like reality with a much tougher battle for division and or playoff spot.

But my thoughts I’m presenting aren’t based on what trolls are regurgitating. It’s based on what our dysfunctional leadership is hyping. Which they aren’t prepared to offer this is a retooling season and are looking to be more of a serious contender in the next couple years .

What if we miss playoffs this season or are one and done again. And we lose MM and Quinn. What are your hopes moving forward then ?

This is why it’s difficult for me to be thinking beyond this season as our ownership never does. He’s only looking to hype and sell one season at a time and therein lies the rub my friend .

You have a solid plan. I Have no faith at all our owners will follow suit.
 

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Or are you just upset that we aren't using FA to sign a couple high priced guys from other teams that will get us over the top?

The only thing I don't like is their SOP doesn't change no matter what. What the Cowboys did after the 2015 (4-12) season was the same approach as after the 2016 (13-3) season. There's no urgency to what they do.

If Jerry was the Eagles GM they get neither Davis or WR A.J. Brown. It may not pan out for them, but you can see some commitment to improve, and improve quickly.
 

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Not at all.. in fact the leading path is building the core and nucleus of your team is thru the NFL draft.

i just do not like that we choose to only go NFL draft, and re-signing existing core players when it comes to the overall direction of the team.

Not believing in acquiring that key " middle ground " vet FA signing or splash trades that could be a next step higher .

All of the big SB contenders tend to do that . Rams, Pats, Ravens, Steelers ...
But that will never happen with us .... with Stephen Jones who prefers more the Money Ball approach.
It continues to limit us, in our drive to the SB, ..
:hammer::hammer:
 

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Personally, I like the recent approach to the draft and, for that matter, their more judicious approach to FA.

The disconnect is their "we like our guys" attitude to their roster. The FO becomes enamored with a particular player and often resigns them to contract extensions, when the "money ball" approach would result in trading or releasing or not resigning the player. Case-in-point: Zeke.

Ideally, I would like to see the FO bit more aggressive in letting players go rather than holding on to them.
 
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