PFT implies Watson punishment should be no more than Jerry, Kraft or Sydner

[Reid1boys]

Do you think owners should be held to a higher standard?

no. Its like an employee at a Starbucks that has actual conduct with customers. If that employee cusses out customers while at work, they are getting fired. If an owner cusses out a customer at the same work.... nothing happening.

 

[Reid1boys]

I agree. And the guy already had his life screwed up and he missed a year of his career with no pay. If I am the League I give him a "time served" type punishment and be done with it.

he was on the commissioners exempt list...... not suspended. He got all of his money for last year.

 

[Reid1boys]

If the claims are to be true (settling doesn't necessarily mean it is but the timing right before discovery is a little telling), grabbing a woman's ******, pressuring someone to perform oral sex, or whipping it out and trying to coerce them to touch him is a little beyond "trying for a happy ending". This goes way farther than simply asking. If someone did this to my wife or daughter there sure as anything would be a coming to Jesus moment (no neither are massage therapists). But hey if you think this is okay behavior, you do you.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/deshaun-watson-sexual-assault-lawsuit.html

"Watson was said in both cases to have pressured women to perform oral sex during massages and was accused in one of also having grabbed a woman’s buttocks and ******. The civil suits alleged that Watson engaged in a pattern of lewd behavior with women hired to provide personal services, coercing them to touch him in a sexual manner, exposing himself to women he had hired for massages, or moving his body in ways that forced them to touch his *****. The incidents cited in the suits were said to have occurred from March 2020 to March 2021."

cmon..... thats all just locker room talk.

 

[Reid1boys]

While true but not coz the actions are any less evil but camouflaged by layers of subordinate employees and lawyers

Bob Kraft, Bob Kraft and Bob Kraft.

 

[Reid1boys]

They only punish each other when one gets severely out of line, as Jerry did.

as Jerry did? What did Jerry do?

Now Bob Kraft?? now you have something.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

no. Its like an employee at a Starbucks that has actual conduct with customers. If that employee cusses out customers while at work, they are getting fired. If an owner cusses out a customer at the same work.... nothing happening.

Let's put it another way........secretary of Starbucks VP files sexual harassment charges against him..............
secretary of Starbucks owner files sexual harassment charges against him .........
same punishment?

 

[Reid1boys]

It's just a bad look for the league is what I'm guessing.

not really.... the media takes it and runs as they need stuff to write about, but my guess is 90% or more of the people that watch the NFL would still watch the exact same amount of the NFL regardless of what happens with any Watson suspension, or lack of one.

 

[Silly]

I don't like the political cancel culture. I say if a player is not in jail then he can play. Moral based judgments on punishment should be up the owner and not the fans and media.

 

[Reid1boys]

Sure, but why should women or anyone be able to falsly accuse someone and ruin their lives?

Whats worse, grabbing someone's butt or ruining a mans life by overblowing the situation and suing him?

its clearly a different world today, but I have a very attractive daughter that is a college student and she works at a restaurant. she gets hit on often, but if one idiot was to grab her butt, hed likely get punched in the face, and while I would likely be down at her place of employment wanting to know what they are going to do to keep that from happening again, there is no way that is worth a million dollars.

Men better learn to keep their hands to themselves. A man grabs a woman's arse, that is a sexual assault... PERIOD. Im 52 and grabbing butts was just what we did. I think I was in 6th grade.... but I would NEVER touch a woman, nor have I touched a woman as an adult. Men clearly need to learn what was once ok, is not ok today.

 

[Otis313]

im with you, but I will admit I havent heard/read the details of what has been reported. But, I dont have a problem for him trying to get some fun from a woman. Any woman that flew across the country and thought she was only being asked for a massage is either the most naïve woman on the planet or lying.

It’s that type of thinking that is the problem.
These women were licensed massage therapist, not prostitutes. The fact that you agree with this idiots way of thinking say’s a lot about you.

 

[Otis313]

its clearly a different world today, but I have a very attractive daughter that is a college student and she works at a restaurant. she gets hit on often, but if one idiot was to grab her butt, hed likely get punched in the face, and while I would likely be down at her place of employment wanting to know what they are going to do to keep that from happening again, there is no way that is worth a million dollars.

Men better learn to keep their hands to themselves. A man grabs a woman's arse, that is a sexual assault... PERIOD. Im 52 and grabbing butts was just what we did. I think I was in 6th grade.... but I would NEVER touch a woman, nor have I touched a woman as an adult. Men clearly need to learn what was once ok, is not ok today.

You said it correct, men.
These idiots aren’t men, they are spoiled little boys.

 

[Reid1boys]

Of course in a fair world the owners should be subject to the same rules as everyone else in the league ........ but these guys are allowed to run a monopoly cartel (which is illegal in every other instance) and run an illegal draft ( which breaks every Antitrust law known to man.)

These guys have been in power and have paid off so many people they can basically do anything they want ....... the only time an owner has to "face justice" is when the other owners feel like he screwed them over.

And yet fans regularly take owners side vs players ........ it amazes me every time.

thats because we want to see football.... we are far more partial to the side of the owners, because stuff that is good for the owners is also good for us fans. Stuff that is good for players is not good for us fans.

So you think players making huge salaries are good for us fans?
You think players able to leave teams is good for us fans?

 

[Motorola]

True.......but as hard as it may be for Mayfield, this could be a great opportunity to get his career back on track. Take the high road, agree to stay and play for the Browns. If he balls out, he will have several teams calling him as a free agent.

I don't think either Mayfield or the Browns see that as a solution. Mayfield feels the team did him wrong, and the Browns have decided he isn't the answer - hence breaking the bank for Watson.
The Cleveland soap opera kicks into high gear come Tuesday with the NFL disciplinary hearing.

 

[Reid1boys]

It’s that type of thinking that is the problem.
These women were licensed massage therapist, not prostitutes. The fact that you agree with this idiots way of thinking say’s a lot about you.

bahahha....my way of thinking? I live in this world of reality. I didnt say its right IM just saying that no way in hell is a LICENSED massage therapist getting flown across the United States for a massage. Not unless they are basically on someone's payroll and they travel with the person. Like members of a band that are on the road for a couple years. But flown across the country to give a single massage? bahahahhahahahahhahahah, sure.

Again, I didnt say it is right, im just saying that if Hugh Heffner were alive today and invites a 23 year old smoking hot female to live with him at the mansion, and she does so and then is shocked when Hugh expected to sleep with her.... that female is not living in the real world. Ive been married for 34 years, never fooled around on my wife, have 4 amazing kids, served in the military, 1st person in my family to graduate from college...... I think that says plenty about who I am.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

he was on the commissioners exempt list...... not suspended. He got all of his money for last year.

I don't think he was on the exempt list at all........it was his refusal to play another down for the Texans. Since they couldn't get the compensation they wanted in trade, they decided to keep him. He was deactivated 17 games......

 

[Reid1boys]

You said it correct, men.
These idiots aren’t men, they are spoiled little boys.

there are MANY men in this society that do this stuff. It isnt a small number. Go watch Mad Men. It is simply the way the world was... people change slowly.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

[QUOTE="Reid1boys, post: 11935720, member: 39890"]there are MANY men in this society that do this stuff. It isnt a small number. Go watch Mad Men. It is simply the way the world was... people change slowly.[/QUOTE]

100%

 

[Otis313]

there are MANY men in this society that do this stuff. It isnt a small number. Go watch Mad Men. It is simply the way the world was... people change slowly.

So your way of thinking is based on a show?
Just because there are a lot of idiots doing it then that makes it ok?
The world is full of spoiled little athletes that have never been told no. Self entitled db’s. There is a reason why he had so many massage therapists. Nobody wanted him back. Predator!
Character is what you do when no one else is around.
Good luck with your TV show(life)

 

[Flamma]

not really.... the media takes it and runs as they need stuff to write about, but my guess is 90% or more of the people that watch the NFL would still watch the exact same amount of the NFL regardless of what happens with any Watson suspension, or lack of one.

I agree completely. I don't think the NFL stands to lose anything if they don't suspend Watson, so why suspend him? It must be for some reason.

 

[Reid1boys]

So your way of thinking is based on a show?
Just because there are a lot of idiots doing it then that makes it ok?
The world is full of spoiled little athletes that have never been told no. Self entitled db’s. There is a reason why he had so many massage therapists. Nobody wanted him back. Predator!
Character is what you do when no one else is around.
Good luck with your TV show(life)

you are clueless. By the way, my life is FANTASTIC. Your inferences are that of a 3rd grader.