Just because you paid him does not make him worth it

[Hardline]

Franchise QBs are going to get paid big bucks. It's just the way it is.

Franchise QB's may deserve it. You don't just because you are a starter.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

well actually he cant read also,,,,

This is from today, seems like he's trying to get better to me... and that's what it's all about right?

 

[Hennessy_King]

Dak has been one of the best and most accurate deep ball passers in recent years. Seriously don't know what you are talking about.

Bruh they just spew garbage with evidence all over the place that prove different. Wish mods would ban these ppl.

 

[Hennessy_King]

You threw out stuff that had NOTHING to do with what I stated. Your first effort actually bolstered my claims. Sometimes in a debate, it's far more entertaining to watch the opponent walk off his own cliff with Acme parachute in hand. Lol.

I only said he was a great deep ball thrower. You came in, moved the goal posts, wanked off to russell wilson, then gave yourself a high five arguing like a female.

 

[starfan1]

Dak has been one of the best and most accurate deep ball passers in recent years. Seriously don't know what you are talking about.

Ya that myth has been debunked so many times

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I don't have a problem with Dak getting paid. It is what it is. But just because you paid him...that does not mean his performance equates to his paycheck. Jerry should KNOW this. Just because Dallas is the most highly valued franchise in all of sports...that does not mean the product on the field is the cream of the crop. Jerry is reluctant to pay people because he is not sure their performance will equal their paycheck...but he has no problem stuffing his pockets with all the money he can, all the while the performance of his team does not reflect the franchise value.

Dak is who he is. His ceiling is Russell Wilson. BUT. BUT. You have to have the right pieces around him. Coaching, the Legion of Boom, the running game and defense allowed Russell Wilson to be the best version of himself and he maximized his potential and had a couple of Super Bowl runs. Why would we take the #1 offense in the NFL last year....and downgrade the WRs corps by a lot? The Oline is downgraded. The RB position is downgraded (Zeke is who he is at this point...and you don't get better as you age). Mike McCarthy is no Pete Carrol. And AT&T stadium is not the homefield advantage that Seattle had.

We have seen Dak without WRs before. It was not pretty. We are trying something that has already failed. Teams are going to load the box and force Dak to beat them with Lamb and (3rd round rookie, USFL star, undrafted rookie etc...). We will try to run into a loaded box. Get into predictable 3rd and longs when the run is stuffed. And be under a lot of pressure to convert unfavorable down and distances multiple times per drive. Oh, I forgot to mix in a penalty from the OL. Like I said, we have seen this before, it is not rocket science. Oh, I almost forgot, we will probably put up enough yards to appear.....

I cannot take this team seriously. I knew not to take them seriously when I witnessed the comedy club act at McCarthys signing. Then he immediately went to work proving to be the clown we now know he is. The one thing Jerry had done over the Garrett years and now McCarthy... is keep enough talent on the field to give off the appearance of a title team in SPITE of the coaching. But the one thing you HAVE to have when your talent on the field is AVERAGE....is good coaching. And going into this season, I seriously question the talent on the field. And we now know it was not McCarthy in Green Bay, it was Rodgers. And I don't care what stats Dak has/will put up...he ain't Rodgers.

How do u calculate pay vs equating performance?

 

[conner01]

……I wish Rayne Dakotas ceiling was as high as Wilson’s. If it is, I wish Russ would show him how to throw the deep ball with accuracy

I don’t know where the myth that Dak isn’t accurate on deep passes came from but it is just a myth
He’s actually very accurate on all his passes thus he has such a high comp pct on all passes and passes over 20 yards

 

[MarcusRock]

I only said he was a great deep ball thrower. You came in, moved the goal posts, wanked off to russell wilson, then gave yourself a high five arguing like a female.

There were no goalposts to move. I simply told you why it's a flawed metric when you talk about "deep balls," then you came back to actually support my clarification citing the exact part I called flawed and looking foolish while trying to call someone a fool. There's no own like a self-own.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

I don't have a problem with Dak getting paid. It is what it is. But just because you paid him...that does not mean his performance equates to his paycheck. Jerry should KNOW this. Just because Dallas is the most highly valued franchise in all of sports...that does not mean the product on the field is the cream of the crop. Jerry is reluctant to pay people because he is not sure their performance will equal their paycheck...but he has no problem stuffing his pockets with all the money he can, all the while the performance of his team does not reflect the franchise value.

Dak is who he is. His ceiling is Russell Wilson. BUT. BUT. You have to have the right pieces around him. Coaching, the Legion of Boom, the running game and defense allowed Russell Wilson to be the best version of himself and he maximized his potential and had a couple of Super Bowl runs. Why would we take the #1 offense in the NFL last year....and downgrade the WRs corps by a lot? The Oline is downgraded. The RB position is downgraded (Zeke is who he is at this point...and you don't get better as you age). Mike McCarthy is no Pete Carrol. And AT&T stadium is not the homefield advantage that Seattle had.

We have seen Dak without WRs before. It was not pretty. We are trying something that has already failed. Teams are going to load the box and force Dak to beat them with Lamb and (3rd round rookie, USFL star, undrafted rookie etc...). We will try to run into a loaded box. Get into predictable 3rd and longs when the run is stuffed. And be under a lot of pressure to convert unfavorable down and distances multiple times per drive. Oh, I forgot to mix in a penalty from the OL. Like I said, we have seen this before, it is not rocket science. Oh, I almost forgot, we will probably put up enough yards to appear.....

I cannot take this team seriously. I knew not to take them seriously when I witnessed the comedy club act at McCarthys signing. Then he immediately went to work proving to be the clown we now know he is. The one thing Jerry had done over the Garrett years and now McCarthy... is keep enough talent on the field to give off the appearance of a title team in SPITE of the coaching. But the one thing you HAVE to have when your talent on the field is AVERAGE....is good coaching. And going into this season, I seriously question the talent on the field. And we now know it was not McCarthy in Green Bay, it was Rodgers. And I don't care what stats Dak has/will put up...he ain't Rodgers.

Just because you paid him doesn't make him worth it.

Just because you said it doesn't make it true.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Franchise QB's may deserve it. You don't just because you are a starter.

Dak is a franchise QB. He may not be elite but he is a franchise QB.

 

[Swagger]

And he has a killer play action. People just have to blame somebody. Is he the best , no but you don’t need the best to win. Aaron Rodgers one ring, Patrick Mahone’s they never see another one again. I don’t know how people keep forgetting that teams win championships . Not just the quarterbacks

Aaron Rodgers has played some incredible play off games and has been let down by his team. Arizona Cardinals from memory was one of the great performances but his defense was gash. He carried them to overtime yet they lost without him even having an opportunity to touch the ball and some bell-ends blame him for the loss.

Some people blame Mahomes for the Chiefs losing to the Bucs in the Superbowl. Do people even watch the games

He reminded me of Romo that day making incredible plays behind a sh!1 banged up o-line against an elite front seven. Receivers dropping touchdown passes in the brrad basket. What's he supposed to do? Walk on water!

Yes, it's a team game. Brady has been given the ball back again and again and again by his defenses over the years. He even made a pick 6 in the Superbowl yet was given the ball so many times he finally got it done. He's fantastic and an amazing QB - the greatest but if Rodgers had that type of defense every season like Brady had then he rips an arseh0le out of the opposition as well.

Dak was given the ball a fair few times in nice throwing conditions to win the game vs the 49ers but lacked the ability/quality/mind-set or whatever it took yet some continue to believe he can win a Superbowl. Hilarious.

 

[Hennessy_King]

I don’t know where the myth that Dak isn’t accurate on deep passes came from but it is just a myth
He’s actually very accurate on all his passes thus he has such a high comp pct on all passes and passes over 20 yards

@MarcusRock doesnt think 20 yards is a good metric for deep passes. But doesnt have any stats to measure qbs throwing further than 20 yards in the air. Avg air yards per attempt isnt good enough for him

 

[Flamma]

I was never a Mahomes fan especially for that reason he throws everybody under the bus. Sure he can throw the ball left-handed between his legs. But he falls under the pressure also . Everybody knows I’m not a fan of his

He also chooses to take off running as opposed to stepping up in the pocket when pressured. All of his plus's kind of mask his weaknesses.

 

[Flamma]

Bruh they just spew garbage with evidence all over the place that prove different. Wish mods would ban these ppl.

I haven't noticed a deep ball problem. He's usually got a good connection with Gallup. If a QB keeps missing on deep passes, I think it would be something I'd notice.

 

[Buzzbait]

I wish you had a little bit more confidence , Also. I don’t know what it is about him. I don’t think he’s afraid. I think he was taught not to throw interceptions. Sometimes you just have to let it go though. He’s not afraid to stand in the pocket I know that for sure

Garrett did that to him, tied a ball and chain to his leg. Sometimes I wish he'd run out of the pocket instead of standing there getting swarmed on, Dak throws well on the run. I wish he'd take advantage of that ability. There's a time to stand in the pocket and a time to get the heck outa there.

 

[starfan1]

I don’t know where the myth that Dak isn’t accurate on deep passes came from but it is just a myth
He’s actually very accurate on all his passes thus he has such a high comp pct on all passes and passes over 20 yards

It originated here I believe. Same place a lot of garbage does

we have some genius fellow fans. Or at least they say they are fans

 

[Barewulf]

Dak is what he is. What he ain't is an elite QB. Sorry, but tons of yards when down by 3 scores in the 4th quarter just doesn't make one elite....especially when the comebacks always seem to come up short. I attribute some of that to a gutless, lay-down defense as well (being in that position).

 

[kskboys]

If this team was serious about winning. They would have built up an elite defense around Parsons in this offseason. Wagner was there, Von Miller was there. The draft done properly could have turned this D into an elite unit. The offense was going to take a step back regardless. Id rather have a top 10-15 offense and a top 3 defense going into the playoffs.

Instead. Here we are.

Regardless of how dak plays this year drafting a QB is a necessity. If Dak has an incredible year and loses in the first round of the playoffs again. Draft a QB round 1.

If they have a decent year dont make the playoffs. Move up in the draft for a QB in round 1.

If they win the freaking SB. Draft a QB in rounds 2-3. And let him sit and learn.

Either way. Draft another QB.

Those are not guys you build around, those guys are final piece types. We're not in the position for those types.

 

[plymkr]

I don't have a problem with Dak getting paid. It is what it is. But just because you paid him...that does not mean his performance equates to his paycheck. Jerry should KNOW this. Just because Dallas is the most highly valued franchise in all of sports...that does not mean the product on the field is the cream of the crop. Jerry is reluctant to pay people because he is not sure their performance will equal their paycheck...but he has no problem stuffing his pockets with all the money he can, all the while the performance of his team does not reflect the franchise value.

Dak is who he is. His ceiling is Russell Wilson. BUT. BUT. You have to have the right pieces around him. Coaching, the Legion of Boom, the running game and defense allowed Russell Wilson to be the best version of himself and he maximized his potential and had a couple of Super Bowl runs. Why would we take the #1 offense in the NFL last year....and downgrade the WRs corps by a lot? The Oline is downgraded. The RB position is downgraded (Zeke is who he is at this point...and you don't get better as you age). Mike McCarthy is no Pete Carrol. And AT&T stadium is not the homefield advantage that Seattle had.

We have seen Dak without WRs before. It was not pretty. We are trying something that has already failed. Teams are going to load the box and force Dak to beat them with Lamb and (3rd round rookie, USFL star, undrafted rookie etc...). We will try to run into a loaded box. Get into predictable 3rd and longs when the run is stuffed. And be under a lot of pressure to convert unfavorable down and distances multiple times per drive. Oh, I forgot to mix in a penalty from the OL. Like I said, we have seen this before, it is not rocket science. Oh, I almost forgot, we will probably put up enough yards to appear.....

I cannot take this team seriously. I knew not to take them seriously when I witnessed the comedy club act at McCarthys signing. Then he immediately went to work proving to be the clown we now know he is. The one thing Jerry had done over the Garrett years and now McCarthy... is keep enough talent on the field to give off the appearance of a title team in SPITE of the coaching. But the one thing you HAVE to have when your talent on the field is AVERAGE....is good coaching. And going into this season, I seriously question the talent on the field. And we now know it was not McCarthy in Green Bay, it was Rodgers. And I don't care what stats Dak has/will put up...he ain't Rodgers.

I'm not going to argue the talent level of Dak or the coaching. I feel Dak is not elite but with the right pieces around him he can win. I feel Dak is the level of QB that with the right team around him he can win the Super Bowl. He reminds me of Flacco, Dilfer and as you mentioned Wilson. With talent he can win.

What I feel you'll be surprised at is our WRs. This is a much better receiving core that started 2018. We'll be good at receiver once Gallup gets back. All QBs have to deal with their WRs getting injured. At least we can plan for Gallup instead of a surprise injury in the middle of the season. If we have success this year or we fall flat on our faces it won't be because of the WRs. The season depends on Dak rebounding from a poor 2nd half of the season, Moore learning to gameplan to put his playmakers in good matchups and the defense making another jump in production. It'll be interesting and hopefully fun to watch.

 

[plymkr]

I was never a Mahomes fan especially for that reason he throws everybody under the bus. Sure he can throw the ball left-handed between his legs. But he falls under the pressure also . Everybody knows I’m not a fan of his

Don't forget his wife and brother. Those 2 alone makes me not want him on our team. Embarrassing distractions for your franchise QB is never good.

Lol, we joke around about Tad. Tad is a saint compared to the distractions of Brittany and Jackson.