CFZ The message 30 of 32 NFL owners send every year

[GINeric]

Jerry didn't even win those SBs as GM. He was GM in name only.

Well maybe more GMs need to adopt the "name only" method!!!

 

[Runwildboys]

Everyone discusses what's on their mind. It's OK!!!!!

I'm not complaining about it. I just think he lets it bother him a bit too much.

 

[GINeric]

I would argue Jimmy Johnson was the real GM and assembled those 3 SB winning teams.

And you would have a compelling argument, no doubt. But it would hold more weight if Jimmy was able to do the same in Miami, but he didn't. If he'd won atleast one Superbowl away from Dallas, I would give him 100% credit for the Cowboys success.

He and Jerry succeeded together.... a lil more credit swinging Jimmy's way, but Jerry had alot to do with it too.

 

[Bobhaze]

With all due respect, @Bobhaze , it seems the more you complain about Jerry, the more you look for reasons to complain about Jerry.

None of us need convincing, brother. We all know we need a real GM, and that Jerry needs to just sign checks and root for the team. But it's not likely to happen, and getting it off your chest doesn't seem to be getting it off your chest.

Yeah but it usually makes me feel better, lol.

 

[Diehardblues]

Everyone discusses what's on their mind. It's OK!!!!!

New issues are always coming up which is a reminder of our core issues and why they must always be addressed . Especially for any new fans coming aboard .

 

[Bobhaze]

I'm not complaining about it. I just think he lets it bother him a bit too much.

Honestly, it doesn’t bother me at all. Unlike when I was a young man, I actually never get upset with what happens with Cowboys.

In fact at this point, I find a lot of humor in the Jerry situation. Most fans know he’s the biggest problem we have, but like the people in the “Emperor’s New Clothes” story, we also have to play along with the Jones charade to even remain a fan. So there’s real humor in that. And it’s weirdly entertaining in a small way because it’s just so predictable.

Honestly, I enjoy the Cowboys a lot. Win or lose. Nowadays it’s like being a Cubs fan. Loyalty is stronger than results. And someday we will win again and hopefully in my lifetime.

At this point in my life, I don’t get upset about anything as trivial as sports.

 

[Bobhaze]

Who are the other teams other than Cowboys/Bengals not to have GMs?

Those are the only two. 30/32 NFL owners hire a GM.

 

[Risen Star]

Notice Bob doesn't acknowledge all the "distinct advantages" of the way we do it.

Something about having no middle man between the head coach and the owner so decisions can be made more quickly.

 

[JBS]

The results they’ve been getting probably won’t change either.

You mean accomplishing all of the goals they set out for the franchise?

attendance

Forbes value

merchandise sales

tv ratings

they’re the best at everything they want to be the best at

 

[jazzcat22]

ALL owners are GM's, they just do not carry the title as Jerry does (and Mike Brown).
Don't think for a second they are not around in meetings, or at least pop in at times, and are not being kept informed of everything.

They are still the ultimate decision maker. These GM's do not have a blank check to do as they please without the owners final approval.

I understand the dislike for Jerry. Yes, he needs to stay in the back ground more. But is it really worth whining 24 / 7 / 365 about?
I guess if it makes one feel better to vent though.

 

[Bobhaze]

ALL owners are GM's, they just do not carry the title as Jerry does (and Mike Brown).
Don't think for a second they are not around in meetings, or at least pop in at times, and are not being kept informed of everything.

They are still the ultimate decision maker. These GM's do not have a blank check to do as they please without the owners final approval.

I understand the dislike for Jerry. Yes, he needs to stay in the back ground more. But is it really worth whining 24 / 7 / 365 about?
I guess if it makes one feel better to vent though.

Jazz, honestly for me it has zero to do with disliking Jerry. I don’t personally dislike him. Here’s what I strongly dislike: His results as a GM the last 26 years. That’s what I don’t like. I also don’t like thinking that if it worked 27 years ago it can work again. THAT’S where my dislike is focused. It’s nothing personal.

 

[jazzcat22]

Jazz, honestly for me it has zero to do with disliking Jerry. I don’t personally dislike him. Here’s what I strongly dislike: His results as a GM the last 26 years. That’s what I don’t like. I also don’t like thinking that if it worked 27 years ago it can work again. THAT’S where my dislike is focused. It’s nothing personal.

Yeah they need to change some of their philosophy about today's NFL and players. It is not what it was, and never will be.
I am glad they FINALLY addressed the defense the past few years. That is one positive change.

Jerry's stubbornness cost us and many players by keeping Garrett way too long. This is the most frustrating part, and I do not blame fans for the dismay against him.

My issue is as I posted, all owners are still the final decision maker. However many fans use that against Jerry, either right or wrong, I am not sure. And too the point I don't care. .
But at least they have football people in place to help. Such as we now have Will McClay.
What bothered me more than Jerry was he kept Larry Lacewell around way too long, listening to him. I think Lacewell was horrible.

 

[Runwildboys]

Honestly, it doesn’t bother me at all. Unlike when I was a young man, I actually never get upset with what happens with Cowboys.

In fact at this point, I find a lot of humor in the Jerry situation. Most fans know he’s the biggest problem we have, but like the people in the “Emperor’s New Clothes” story, we also have to play along with the Jones charade to even remain a fan. So there’s real humor in that. And it’s weirdly entertaining in a small way because it’s just so predictable.

Honestly, I enjoy the Cowboys a lot. Win or lose. Nowadays it’s like being a Cubs fan. Loyalty is stronger than results. And someday we will win again and hopefully in my lifetime.

At this point in my life, I don’t get upset about anything as trivial as sports.

Good, I'm glad to hear it!

 

[CouchCoach]

Mike Brown, the son of a legendary HC/GM in Paul Brown, makes more sense as he was groomed for the job but he hasn't been very good at it.

The real problem with Booger as GM is he thinks it is an easier job than it really is because he doesn't do it full time. He's more interested in getting film on himself than learning to study film like most GM's have to and are expected to by their owners. He's not a good owner because he doesn't hold his GM accountable for the on the field results.

Do you think any owner would approve of his GM being a celebrity and spending all this time promoting himself? Do you think any owner would be happy with his GM going on sports talk TV programs after losing his starting LT? Wouldn't he expect his GM to be hunkered down with the brain trust figuring out what to do?

But let's be honest, how many great GM's have their been? It is only as assumption the Cowboys would have done better with another GM. Booger is not built to have someone run his company but him. Did you notice when the media was hinting that there might be a changing of the guard to the son going on how quickly Booger re-asserted himself and used the "I" word a lot.

 

[Corso]

And you would have a compelling argument, no doubt. But it would hold more weight if Jimmy was able to do the same in Miami, but he didn't. If he'd won atleast one Superbowl away from Dallas, I would give him 100% credit for the Cowboys success.

He and Jerry succeeded together.... a lil more credit swinging Jimmy's way, but Jerry had alot to do with it too.

I mean, somebody had to hire Jimmy to begin with.
And I remember that moment. It was not a popular decision at the time.
Especially after firing Tom Landry to hire him.

 

[AsthmaField]

Especially after firing Tom Landry to hire him.

This is why some, to this day, can’t stand Jerry.

 

[baltcowboy]

Heard this a 1000 times before.....but makes no difference.....The Dallas Cowboys are a family ran organization and will remain that way......its not about championships its about Family and its been that way for 26 plus years and not gonna change anytime soon.

A successful run family business as well. The Joneses have 8 billion reasons not to change. The Cowboys were the first franchise to ever make a billion dollars in one season last year. Did you see them yucking it up on First Take Thursday and the celebration week at the stadium without the real players playing in the games. I can see the Joneses handing the reins over to Sean Payton or a hot shot GM next season.

 

[Redsfan_83]

Wow you make it seem that Ross, Snyder and Jones are owners of teams with multiple issues...

 

[Hoofbite]

Statistically speaking, when 94% of all organizations have a non-owner GM, you should expect this sort of outcome. If the 2 owner/GM's could compete with the other 30, they'd be football savants.

 

[tunahelper]

And you would have a compelling argument, no doubt. But it would hold more weight if Jimmy was able to do the same in Miami, but he didn't. If he'd won atleast one Superbowl away from Dallas, I would give him 100% credit for the Cowboys success.

He and Jerry succeeded together.... a lil more credit swinging Jimmy's way, but Jerry had alot to do with it too.

Well the story goes Jimmy decided to trade Herschel Walker. Jimmy made the draft selections, coached the team. Jerry signed the checks, so I guess that equates to 50%?

Also how many has Jerry won without Jimmy Johnson player acquisitions?

Jerry is a fraud.