CFZ The message 30 of 32 NFL owners send every year

[Dre11]

ALL owners are GM's, they just do not carry the title as Jerry does (and Mike Brown).
Don't think for a second they are not around in meetings, or at least pop in at times, and are not being kept informed of everything.

They are still the ultimate decision maker. These GM's do not have a blank check to do as they please without the owners final approval.

I understand the dislike for Jerry. Yes, he needs to stay in the back ground more. But is it really worth whining 24 / 7 / 365 about?
I guess if it makes one feel better to vent though.

Exactly, I wiish i coukd find the interview on 105.3 the fan, Mike Floria made this same point when he came on. He said most of the owners operate like that but they're afraid to stick their neck out there like Jerry. He said a lot of them are hands on, it's just behind the seen. This was back when all the Jerry controversy during the summer. Dlaw agent too said something close to it.

 

[GINeric]

Again Jerry rode the team Jimmy built. What makes you think a successful Hurricanes coach Jimmy Johnson didn't have other franchise offers?

What makes you think Jerry ever gets to any SB without Jimmy? Jerry is a fraud.

I never said Jimmy wouldn't get any other offers... But Jerry was the one smart enough to hire this talented coach. Last i checked, Jerry didn't have to compete with any other offers from other teams for Jimmy's services.

With that said, being a successful coach in college means nothing in the NFL. Just ask Spurrier, Saban, and Urban Meyer....

Do I think Jerry gets a superbowl without Jimmy?? Absolutely, because we're talking about pre-free agency.... Jerry would have spent big money for the best players.

Now you said Jerry is a fraud??? Ok cool.... but can you explain how a fraud gets inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame??? The second question after you answer that one.... if Jerry is a fraud and made it to the HOF, why haven't other frauds been able to get in like Jerry???

I'll wait....

 

[tunahelper]

I never said Jimmy wouldn't get any other offers... But Jerry was the one smart enough to hire this talented coach. Last i checked, Jerry didn't have to compete with any other offers from other teams for Jimmy's services.

With that said, being a successful coach in college means nothing in the NFL. Just ask Spurrier, Saban, and Urban Meyer....

Do I think Jerry gets a superbowl without Jimmy?? Absolutely, because we're talking about pre-free agency.... Jerry would have spent big money for the best players.

Now you said Jerry is a fraud??? Ok cool.... but can you explain how a fraud gets inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame??? The second question after you answer that one.... if Jerry is a fraud and made it to the HOF, why haven't other frauds been able to get in like Jerry???

I'll wait....

It's a rich man club and we are not in it. Jerry has made the league a lot of money, so they threw him a bone. Look at his side business that covers stadium financing, sky box rentals, and licensing. He has a billion dollar enterprise working as a secondary NFL business. His business savy has elevated the entire league, so for that he gets in HOF.

Why is he a fraud?

First he never wins a SB without Jimmy, so that is just lame to think otherwise.

Why? Jerry allows his ego to fool him I to thinking he can run and build a SB contender.

Evidence?

How about a reminder on Jerry coaching hires since Jimmy: Switzer, Campo, Gailey, BP, Phillips, Garrett, and MM.

How many had control of the ship? Parcells had partial control, but that was because Jerry wanted to build the new stadium. He needed franchise excitement to generate interest. Interest equates to money. The rest on the coaching list were chosen because they will follow Jerry's orders.

Jerry is always most interested in money first and limelight second. Winning is third, therefore Jerry is a fraud.

 

[Flamma]

Here’s the message: Approximately 94% of NFL owners share something very important in common- they hire a general manager to manage football operations and let that person be completely in charge of the team’s roster management and on-field results.

There are only 2 owners who don’t use that model- Cincinnati’s Mike Brown and Dallas’ Jerry Jones. So how have the 30 other owners who hire a GM fared compared to Jerry and Mike Brown?

• The winning owners of the last 26 Super Bowls all hired a GM to run their football operations.
• The only time in the last 26 years a team who had an owner as it’s GM won a conference championship or even went to a conference championship game was last year’s bengals team.
• The combined playoff record of the two “GM owners” over the last 26 years: 7-18. (After the bengals won 3 playoff games last year)

Having the owner also serve as your GM is an inherently bad idea. The data of the last quarter century makes that clear. The owner has an emotional attachment to their team that makes it more difficult to make the tough decisions needed to win in this league.

So the next time Jerry tells us how bad he wants to win- just remember- he doesn’t want to win bad enough to do what it takes to win a SB. And 30 NFL owners have made it abundantly clear that starts with hiring a real GM.

I have no comment in regard to the Bengals. But for the Cowboys, and considering their offseason SOP, they don't need to hire a GM. Almost anyone can do what they're doing. So if he can do it, why hire a GM? Jerry needed to hire a GM back before this new SOP.

I'll put it another way. Let's say Jerry and his son got tired of this and hired someone else to do it. They would just instruct the GM to do the same thing. Just be a bookkeeper and manage the cap. Other teams with owners that can't be bothered, or just can't do it, hire people to do the same thing.

Not every owner that hires a GM gives them the go ahead to do as they like. For anything to change, Jerry would have to not only hire a GM, but give that GM every resource to go win a championship. Similar to what the Rams and Eagles are doing.

 

[DandyDon52]

It still amazes me with our dysfunctional organization we’re able to field a competitive team at all. You’d think we’d be more of a 4-6 win team more consistently.

I think it’s why he stays the course . He thinks he’s close. And when you look around at all of the other franchises who do it the right way we actually fare better than about half the league .

Unfortunately though those franchises at least at some point have a better opportunity of finally getting it right while we stay in this perpetual mediocre mode providing just enough hope to hype from year to year.

good post, I think you hit it on the head.
Jones boys do good enough in their eyes lol to think they are so close!
And they are not the worst, just will never be good enough.

If they cant learn and adapt enough to win 1 SB in 26 year time frame, that is pathetic ! Most gm's only get 5 years or so.
Jones boys been at it a long time , and yeah they have gotten better, and that is mostly due to hiring mcclay as their "ghost gm" lol.
but for that long of a time period, they get a grade of pathetic from me.

And the bad thing is forget a SB trip, not a win but a trip lol, they havent been able to get past the Div round, and that is also pathetic!
Not 1 time have they been able to win in Div round.

if I had been running the team that long and had their record, I would be so embarrassed that I would hire a GM !
But the jones boys evidently cant see how pathetic their record is, they are blind to it, and ignore it, and like you say they think they are close,
so they just keep going, continuing to make themselves look like morons, which they are because they cant see how miserably they
have failed.

Also see jones boys dont think about the fans and how they have let us down, to them we are just the noise, and pawns, and we are the idiots,
not them lol.
They only think about themselves, and evidently they can lose and lose and fail over and over and it just doesnt bother them ! lol
And they have fun playing the part of gm and sidekick gm, and as long as it is fun to do why worry about failing and losing?

The jones family are so rich they no longer live in the real world, they live in Jonestown, which is a fantasy land, where they are great
and famous , and winners ! lol They know it all so dont tell them what to do lol.

 

[DandyDon52]

Jerry didn't even win those SBs as GM. He was GM in name only.

exactly, and he didnt build the team that won them ! we have seen jones familt team build for last 26 years lol.
They have built a few good teams, but the hc's they hired and controlled were not good enough , and JG was their build a coach experiment
who wasted the romo years, and early part of the dak years. all one coach !

 

[Verdict]

Here’s the message: Approximately 94% of NFL owners share something very important in common- they hire a general manager to manage football operations and let that person be completely in charge of the team’s roster management and on-field results.

There are only 2 owners who don’t use that model- Cincinnati’s Mike Brown and Dallas’ Jerry Jones. So how have the 30 other owners who hire a GM fared compared to Jerry and Mike Brown?

• The winning owners of the last 26 Super Bowls all hired a GM to run their football operations.
• The only time in the last 26 years a team who had an owner as it’s GM won a conference championship or even went to a conference championship game was last year’s bengals team.
• The combined playoff record of the two “GM owners” over the last 26 years: 7-18. (After the bengals won 3 playoff games last year)

Having the owner also serve as your GM is an inherently bad idea. The data of the last quarter century makes that clear. The owner has an emotional attachment to their team that makes it more difficult to make the tough decisions needed to win in this league.

So the next time Jerry tells us how bad he wants to win- just remember- he doesn’t want to win bad enough to do what it takes to win a SB. And 30 NFL owners have made it abundantly clear that starts with hiring a real GM.

Actually, I don’t think the Cowboys organization sucks nearly as bad as some think it does. The Cowboys do a LOT of things right.

I think where the Cowboys fall short is:

1. They do a poor job of allocating salary cap dollars on the roster. Guys like Witten and Lee stuck around far too long. Tyron might soon be viewed as another one.

2. They overpay to retain mediocre talent.

 

[Silverstar]

Jerry didn't even win those SBs as GM. He was GM in name only.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/dallas-cowboys

Top Executive: Jerry Jones, Owner (since 1994)