CFZ A hornets nest is awaiting Dak after his rehab

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1 question, do you believe in the guy your asking to go get this new QB? there are lists of QB's he has wanted in the draft over the last decade....make sure you find them so you can see what "Ride it out" will look like.
You are exactly right, I no longer trust "in the guy" either.
 

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Dak is about to rehab under a daunting, ominous cloud these next two months. I suggest they plan his next start on back-to-back road games to help ease the pounding.

No longer are the blinders on half the Cowboys fandom. We all support him as a good dude who gives it his all, but half of us also haven't believed he was the guy for a very long time, and certainly not worth the elite salary cap space he takes up. That debate has eaten up the majority of the bandwidth on this site for several years.

No more debate. Now, nobody in their right mind still believes he can carry the team in clutch moments against good teams while eating up piles of the cap at the same time. The boos grew louder and longer last night as the game wore on. The end was a broken hand and an ugly image of people throwing things at him as he went in for treatment. C'mon Cowboy fans, be better than that. Sheesh.

I haven't heard it like that in the stadium ever, especially when it was all aimed primarily at a single player. Passes were behind and over the heads of receivers from the second drive on. It got uglier and uglier, especially the double-clutching and unwillingness to throw the ball at times.

Dak still doesn't trust his arm. Clearly.

There he stood, eyes, like saucers on the sidelines, as if he's trapped in a bootloop he can't resolve. Want-to and work ethic can't seem to fix the shortcomings, or his would be fixed. He's truly a first-class guy who gives it all he's got. And this is all he's got.

Now, two-plus seasons that have featured a AC joint sprain, dislocated ankle, lat/shoulder strain, calf strain, broken hand.....they're piling up quicker and earlier than they did with Romo. Romo was the picture of health compared to this guy to this point in their careers.

I wonder what the team thinks. Cooper lost confidence in Dak, and that got him a ticket out of here. Other teams toy with him in the media. He's nobody's darling anymore.

This return will define Dak quickly and forever. He's got to let go of his insecurities and just play. Let it be whatever it is. Turn it loose.

That's his only out of this dark hole and back into Cowboys fans' hearts and minds.
They call it overreaction monday for a reason.

Case and point.
 

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Listen, I am a Dak fan but I fully understand the kind of quarterback he is. He is NOT a guy that can single handedly carry an offense, but the league is full of guys like that. Dak is good enough to win a Super Bowl, but ONLY IF he's put into position to succeed. Dak is who he is. Upper middle tier. Needs a strong supporting cast.

So what do the Cowboys do? Severeley downgrade the talent level of his receiving corps and the offensive line; then sit around and act surprised when Dak falls flat on his behind. This front office and coaching staff is a joke. They wasted Romo's career, they are wasting Dak's, and even if they make a QB change in the next couple years I just hope a new staff is here to not waste him too.
 

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Bro, articles have a narrative given to the reporter by a source. It was personal for Jerry with Cooper and they smeared his name like they did Dez because it was personal. Jerry said everyone on his team was getting the shot and Coop refused.
If it's strictly football as you say Jerry has to be the dumbest "football guy ever".
 

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Bro, articles have a narrative given to the reporter by a source. It was personal for Jerry with Cooper and they smeared his name like they did Dez because it was personal. Jerry said everyone on his team was getting the shot and Coop refused.
If it's strictly football as you say Jerry has to be the dumbest "football guy ever".


When they made CeeDee wear #88 Cooper was basically gone.
 

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There’s many fans who are more in the middle knowing Dak was over paid which is on our ownership not the fans .

And we were very concerned that our front office hadn’t addressed our weaknesses on OL and receiving corps .

The bottomline is despite whatever our grievances are with Prescott he still provides our best chance to contend for division and the playoffs .

Unless you think Rush or Grier are?
Most prefer to contend for championships not a playoff spot, unfortunately from what I see here is many are happy winning a division every other year and 1 and done every other year. If you don’t have a top QB 1-6 you don’t have a QB. Keep being happy every other year.
 

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When they made CeeDee wear #88 Cooper was basically gone.
Or when he signed that contract with a 3rd year out, but again it's dumb as hell to let a WR1 go for peanuts and smear his name out the door lowering his trade value if it wasn't personal.
 

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Dude is average. It hurts to say that but it's the truth.
 

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You're the last one left.
I don't let 1 game or a handful of games outweigh a career of evidence.

People are reactionary. They are tick tok fans now. Instant gratification.

Until they get it, they will scream and yell about anything. We blow out the Bengals next week (won't happen) and everyone will be talking super bowl (i wont).

That is how it works.
 

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Most prefer to contend for championships not a playoff spot, unfortunately from what I see here is many are happy winning a division every other year and 1 and done every other year. If you don’t have a top QB 1-6 you don’t have a QB. Keep being happy every other year.
No, we aren’t happy . As a matter of fact we’ve been bashing this ownership from here to the moon but after almost 3 decades we’ve accepted this dysfunctional ownership isn’t likely going to do better.

As a matter of fact it’s surprising we aren’t more of a 4-6 win team every year.

But we’ve had a couple QB’s this era fall into our Laps this era or we’d suk even more with top drafted prospects QB’s like Lynch and Manziel. And dont forget Quincy our highest drafted Qb this era.
 

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We lucked into Dak and we lucked into Romo. People are fooling themselves if they think anything is going to change.
They need to draft a high pedigree 1st round talent quarterback if they have ANY hopes of ever winning a championship.

No more FA’s or fourth rounders.

History tells us this much.
 

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Dude is average. It hurts to say that but it's the truth.
Unfortunately most of the league had to build around average to above average QB’s. There’s only a handful of certifiable Elite QB. Not enough to fill 32 franchises.

You need a smart enough front office and coaching staff to have an eye to draft one then build around one. And if you come up with less than Elite need even a better or smarter FO and staff to build around.

We failed building it around Romo and we are failing again with even a lesser QB.

Good luck with these idiots .
 

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They need to draft a high pedigree 1st round talent quarterback if they have ANY hopes of ever winning a championship.

No more FA’s or fourth rounders.

History tells us this much.
These frikin idiots would screw up building around a Mahomes.

It’s amazing we still have fans who take our football franchise seriously anymore. We’re such a joke. A genuine shonda.
 

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I don't let 1 game or a handful of games outweigh a career of evidence.

People are reactionary. They are tick tok fans now. Instant gratification.

Until they get it, they will scream and yell about anything. We blow out the Bengals next week (won't happen) and everyone will be talking super bowl (i wont).

That is how it works.
You have a massive blind spot with Dak despite a mountain of evidence.

He's not good.
 

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Does anyone ask why two (2) guys......Dak & Zeke trend downward, when they took the league by surprise. Their play wasn't a one-hit wonder or anamoly. They were still ascending in years 2, 3, and 4.

Since KMoore has assumed OC.....he has become a Coach Killer, a RB killer, and now a QB Killer. Nothing has continued upward around him......nothing.
In KMoore's defense and Dak and Zeke's too.....the OL injuries and lack of depth is surrounding all of this. A decent OL helps something. A bad OL ruins everything.

KMoore should be in Philbin's ear, who should be in JJ's ear, along with McCarthy. There's simple no accountability for anyone, other than players that have gotten pay from their merits and market value. When does the top tier get questioned or held to the carpet? We have another puppet HC, a continually-inexperienced OC, and an OL coach that has trouble evaluating talent.......and a HOF owner only focused on his own limelight.

Moore is not a good OC. Zeke was running really well last night and he kept taking him out and putting in Pollard. I like Pollard but you have to have a feel for the game. You play the hot hand.
 

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He needed to play a few quarters in preseason. Mahomes did. Josh Allen did. Those guys hit the ground running. I'm not a Dak fan, but there were a lot of new guys and kinks in this offense that needed to get ironed out before the Tampa game. It was a huge coaching error to think this would get worked out somehow during the first game of record against Tom Brady and that defense. A lot of good saving Daks health did.


I posted in another thread, he needed a full PreSeason to get all the issues worked out of his head. and he never got it so he pressed and rushed and looked terrible
 

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Bro, you can totally get honey from a hornet.

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Dak is about to rehab under a daunting, ominous cloud these next two months. I suggest they plan his next start on back-to-back road games to help ease the pounding.

No longer are the blinders on half the Cowboys fandom. We all support him as a good dude who gives it his all, but half of us also haven't believed he was the guy for a very long time, and certainly not worth the elite salary cap space he takes up. That debate has eaten up the majority of the bandwidth on this site for several years.

No more debate. Now, nobody in their right mind still believes he can carry the team in clutch moments against good teams while eating up piles of the cap at the same time. The boos grew louder and longer last night as the game wore on. The end was a broken hand and an ugly image of people throwing things at him as he went in for treatment. C'mon Cowboy fans, be better than that. Sheesh.

I haven't heard it like that in the stadium ever, especially when it was all aimed primarily at a single player. Passes were behind and over the heads of receivers from the second drive on. It got uglier and uglier, especially the double-clutching and unwillingness to throw the ball at times.

Dak still doesn't trust his arm. Clearly.

There he stood, eyes, like saucers on the sidelines, as if he's trapped in a bootloop he can't resolve. Want-to and work ethic can't seem to fix the shortcomings, or his would be fixed. He's truly a first-class guy who gives it all he's got. And this is all he's got.

Now, two-plus seasons that have featured a AC joint sprain, dislocated ankle, lat/shoulder strain, calf strain, broken hand.....they're piling up quicker and earlier than they did with Romo. Romo was the picture of health compared to this guy to this point in their careers.

I wonder what the team thinks. Cooper lost confidence in Dak, and that got him a ticket out of here. Other teams toy with him in the media. He's nobody's darling anymore.

This return will define Dak quickly and forever. He's got to let go of his insecurities and just play. Let it be whatever it is. Turn it loose.

That's his only out of this dark hole and back into Cowboys fans' hearts and minds.
Great post. Really impressive take.
 

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You have a massive blind spot with Dak despite a mountain of evidence.

He's not good.
Ya...lump me in with all of the NFL that has him ranked top 10 and the players who had him 44.

How people can come away with this analysis is absolutely mystifying to me.

Meanwhile, the Eagles and Giants would both fall over themselves to have him as their qb.

Go figure.
 
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