Does Dak get his job back if Rush goes 6-2 by the bye?

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I really really doubt that Jerry would eat crow on that level and keep Rush on the field, but I sure do hope I'm wrong.
 

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What a faulty argument the OP is trying to make. Switching from Romo to Dak was about passing the torch from one generation to the next. Have you all forgotten about Romo's speech about this being a meritocracy? Rush is the same age as Dak so there will be no passing of the torch. Many of you just hate Dak and will support anything that takes the QB1 job from him. There will be no Wally Pipp going on here.
 

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What a faulty argument the OP is trying to make. Switching from Romo to Dak was about passing the torch from one generation to the next. Have you all forgotten about Romo's speech about this being a meritocracy? Rush is the same age as Dak so there will be no passing of the torch. Many of you just hate Dak and will support anything that takes the QB1 job from him. There will be no Wally Pipp going on here.
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They already said Dak probably won’t miss more than 4 weeks. Plus Rush played well but he didn’t light it up. They were 3 for 10 on third down and didn’t really do anything the second half. He also almost threw a couple picks in the second half. Hopefully he keeps improving with playing time.
 

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Dak is going to play as soon as he is cleared by the medical staff. There is no way the Cowboys will let him sit given his contract and the fact that he has proclaimed the #2 or #3 QB in the league as by QB guru Stephen Jones.

I think the problem is if Cooper plays lights-out; then there is even more pressure on Dak to perform…and we all know how Dak handles pressure. I thought that Cooper outplayed Dak with virtually the same offensive weapons. Maybe it was the Bengals defense, but Cooper didn’t hold the ball, was decisive in his throws and made some big plays when he had to do so. I don’t believe he really forced throws into coverage and was able to stretch the field some with some intermediate routes.

I am interested to see how the Cowboys come out against the Giants. See if I they can be consistent in their execution for all four quarters. I thought that they lost focus for much of the second half last night; the offense and defense, to a lesser extent, got conservative. I think they quit attacking on both sides of the ball. This game should not have been as close as it was, but a win-is-win.

This will be an interesting next few weeks…as TO said…”get your popcorn ready”!
 

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Reality is Dak is a more talented quarterback

Not a shot at you Thunderpimp but I don't understand this perception. I see very little talent for playing the position. That has always been his downfall IMO. Trying to get the best out of a very limited player on a weekly basis is not a winning strategy. Trying hard is great .... but at the end of the day playing QB in the NFL is all about having elite talent\abilities whether it be physical or mental. You can overcome limited physical talent if you excel in the mental area. If you have both, then you can become special.
 

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Genuine question because I dont know if NFL is like NBA or not:

If Dallas wanted to roll with Rush...would they start Dak again and roll with Rush next season...as to keep Dak's trade value intact? Or would the Cowboys just waive Dak and take the financial hit?

Seems like no matter what you would put Dak back in and try and trade him in the offseason...but I dont know how cap penalties work in the NFL. I know in the NBA they will continue to play a player as to not nose dive his trade value. Benching the player tells other teams the player isnt good which kills the players value.

I dont know how old Rush is and I dont know anything about cap penalties.
 

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Not a shot at you Thunderpimp but I don't understand this perception. I see very little talent for playing the position. That has always been his downfall IMO. Trying to get the best out of a very limited player on a weekly basis is not a winning strategy. Trying hard is great .... but at the end of the day playing QB in the NFL is all about having elite talent\abilities whether it be physical or mental. You can overcome limited physical talent if you excel in the mental area. If you have both, then you can become special.
From a straight standpoint of physical talent, I'll take Dak all day every day. I'm rooting hard for Rush to win the next few games, but Dak is 10x better with his legs than Rush, and has a stronger arm. Rush seems to be the more accurate QB, but that is about the only category I would give him over Dak.

Rush has been able to win games by playing within the system, understanding defenses, and not being afraid to sling the ball down field. The interesting thing to me there is that those used to all be strengths of Daks until recently. Teams adjusted to how they played the Cowboys mid year of 2021 and things just have not been the same since. Dak has been broken, and I cannot pinpoint what the problem is. Dak has proven he has the talent to play in this league, and has proven that he can still be good enough to beat bad teams. The methodical rookie who would take over games in the 4th quarter seems long gone. If you get him back Dak Prescott runs circles around Cooper Rush. The conservative dink and dunk Dak doesn't give the Cowboys a great chance to make a run, but the talent is there.
 

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Rush will be extremely lucky if he ends up .500. Let's pump the brakes with all of this nonsense talk about replacing Prescott.
 

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Rush will be extremely lucky if he ends up .500. Let's pump the brakes with all of this nonsense talk about replacing Prescott.

I agree. Dak has been somewhat successful for 6 years now. He has flaws...but how serious are they?

I do find it odd that Romo and other people have peppered in "he's not afraid" comments when talking about Cooper Rush though. Just seems odd for multiple random people to be saying that. I also find it odd that the Cowboys seem to be building up Dak's value around the league with mulitple players talking about his arm strength this training camp. Just seems like an odd topic that casuals and fans wouldnt care about but media was running with it. Then...you have what looks like Dak set up to fail in first game with odd play calling that seemed to suggest Dak needs to prove himself.

I wouldnt be surprised if Dallas is interested in moving on. The coaches behind the scenes could be in Stephen and Will's ear claiming Dak's flaws are pretty serious even though they dont show to the casual through the tv.
 

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Romo lost his job to a hot Prescott.

Does the same happen to Prescott ???

If we are 6-2 by the bye, then Prescott has the rest of the year to recover.

I'm just sayin' ...
it just shows how bad dak is and will make people imagine what would have happened last year if we had a different QB than dak . Make no mistake , dak is on notice now. No up and down games BS anymore . At 42 mil a year you should not be in a debate whether the 1 mil a year back up is better than you !!
 

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1) Dak isn't going to miss 8 games.
2) Each game Rush plays writes another page in the "book" on him. So it's going to get harder and harder for him to win games the more he plays.
3) We saw Rush's limitations on full display for most of the second half yesterday. He threw at least a half dozen balls that could have been picked off and lost us the game. We were fortunate that most defensive players can't catch.

Rush throws a good ball when he is sure of where he's going with it.. but when he is confused or hesitant there is a noticeable lack of zip and the ball really hangs on him. Once Cincy began to stack the line and take away the run his effectiveness dropped off precipitously. Long story short.. When Dak is ready to come back he will be the QB.. I don't care if Rush goes 4-0 over the next four weeks.. Well if he beats the Rams we might have to talk ...LOL!
 

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I love these "if" scenarios. All the talking heads have already put in their two cents, why not just pump the breaks and concentrate on beating the Giants that would be nice.
 

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I agree. Dak has been somewhat successful for 6 years now. He has flaws...but how serious are they?

I do find it odd that Romo and other people have peppered in "he's not afraid" comments when talking about Cooper Rush though. Just seems odd for multiple random people to be saying that. I also find it odd that the Cowboys seem to be building up Dak's value around the league with mulitple players talking about his arm strength this training camp. Just seems like an odd topic that casuals and fans wouldnt care about but media was running with it. Then...you have what looks like Dak set up to fail in first game with odd play calling that seemed to suggest Dak needs to prove himself.

I wouldnt be surprised if Dallas is interested in moving on. The coaches behind the scenes could be in Stephen and Will's ear claiming Dak's flaws are pretty serious even though they dont show to the casual through the tv.
Rushing attempts paint the picture for me. The game plan was changed. So why not balance it with Dak? He's not perfect but I feel like they could game plan better.
 

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Romo lost his job to a hot Prescott.

Does the same happen to Prescott ???

If we are 6-2 by the bye, then Prescott has the rest of the year to recover.

I'm just sayin' ...

Depending on what he shows us, I personally would support keeping him in and flipping Dak.

I highly doubt we will see that scenario come to fruition though. I don't believe he's ultimately a better player, but Id love to be wrong.
 

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..everyone knows never cool down a Hot Iron. If that scenario would happen, I dont know what to think.
 

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Rushing attempts paint the picture for me. The game plan was changed. So why not balance it with Dak? He's not perfect but I feel like they could game plan better.

You would think if all these posters on here claiming Dak doesnt have the mental ability to read or process defenses fast enough and that physically his arm strength is subpar...that Moore would balance the running attack...especially with Zeke and Pollard.

I do find it odd though that the media kept asking players about Daks arm strength in training camp. Just seems really really odd to me. Especially since Jerry controls the media.
 
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