In no world is Rush better

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It’s a mystery why back up QB are conceived to be best QB when they do their job. Even with a cloud over Dak’s head is Rush the better QB. Remember when we didn’t think Rush was the 2 ?

In every world Rush has proved the equal of Dak for sure. Rush has proven his worth which is something no one can say about the 160mil we paid to the always hurt choke artist. Dak had one good season and RG3 had one good season. Dak has shown us little over his 6 years in the league except for stats.
Stats don't get teams to the SB. Brady gets teams there without stats.
 

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Is Cooper Rush better than Dak Precott? No.

Is Dak Prescott (average contract amount of $40M/year) worth more than Cooper Rush (2022 salary of $977K) based on their performance? No.

While the top NFL QB's are drastically overpaid, the difference between what Cooper Rush is doing versus what Dak does is simply not worth that much of a pay differential. The same can easily be said about Zeke (2022 salary hit of $18.2M) and Pollard (2022 salary hit of $1.13M).
 

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It’s a mystery why back up QB are conceived to be best QB when they do their job. Even with a cloud over Dak’s head is Rush the better QB. Remember when we didn’t think Rush was the 2 ?
This Dak Prescott 40 mil a year experiment hasn't worked. He wasn't even getting it done before he got paid. He is squandering everyone's career and time. Dallas needs to go find a true franchise QB. Rush only made Dak look like a panic machine with no arm talent.
 

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In every world Rush has proved the equal of Dak for sure. Rush has proven his worth which is something no one can say about the 160mil we paid to the always hurt choke artist. Dak had one good season and RG3 had one good season. Dak has shown us little over his 6 years in the league except for stats.
Stats don't get teams to the SB. Brady gets teams there without stats.
I totally agree! Not being able to come through in big games is way more important than hanging 50 on a terrible team.
 

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Just a question for the serious film guys. Is the Rush success do to lack of extensive film or time in the system?
 

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It’s a mystery why back up QB are conceived to be best QB when they do their job. Even with a cloud over Dak’s head is Rush the better QB. Remember when we didn’t think Rush was the 2 ?

I remember when Dak wasn't even considered the number 2 he was 3rd on the depth chart.....the only time the team ever made the right assessment about him!
 

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Dak's career is clearly at a crossroads. It was a mistake for the Cowboys organization to assume that Dak could go back to being a running QB and stay healthy. So Dak has no choice but to get better at decision making, ball placement and getting through his reads. Otherwise, his career is going to start circling the drain.
 

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Dak and Rush are at worse a wash. This myth that Dak is a good QB is beyond me, I don't know what you all are watching.

It’s not just that. All his fanboys, and by fanboy I mean all his defenders on this board, put him in the category of the elite QBs, whether young or old, let alone good. They said he was up there with Josh Allen, Mahomes and Herbert, guys whose skill sets were clearly far, far, far more advanced by any stretch of the imagination to anybody that watches QB play than our resident “franchise QB”.

Their opinion on QB play needs to be taken with a grain of salt honestly.
 

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Rush’s arm strength is not there. If he had arm strength, whatever little I’ve seen of him on the field, he’d be FAR superior than Dak. Quicker reads, better anticipation, gets the ball out quickly, better pocket presence, uses the middle of the field more..
 

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This idea it’s Dak’s injury is all nonsense. This pattern of Dak happens every year he’s been in the NFL. In 2019, they started off hot and collapsed, when Dak got outplayed by Sam Darnold and the 0-4 Jets and ended the season getting eliminated by the Eagles and Wentz, despite the latter starting 3 string CBs off the street and Dak couldn’t even score a TD, despite throwing over 40 times that game. They got beat by the Vikings, Bears and Patriots with Dak’s horrible play being the main culprit. Dak got outplayed by Trubisky. Dak finding himself that season was just like last year in 2021, such as the game I with Atlanta which supposedly allowed him to turn the corner. They played a bum team in-between the stretch of horrible play that allowed him to pad stats.

Dak-fans just refuse to see the trend of Dak. Always making excuses for him.
 

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I said it, all things equal Dak and any other Joe Schmoe behind this line are the same. Dak has just had the good fortune of his backup before Rush playing without guys like Zach Martin on OL. When Dak originally in 2020 and Dalton came in against the Giants, the offense looked exactly the same and the Cowboys won. After the bye, the Cowboys had clearly changed the offense for Dalton to get the ball out quickly, as the OL was in complete disarray, especially after shelving Martin for the season and the offensive performance was more than adequate considering the situation. Dalton didn’t choke against the Vikings like Dak did the year Bruce. If Dalton started the whole year, we probably make the playoffs irrespective.

Amari Cooper got the ball when Rush was QB, but Dak couldn’t find him until garbage time to end the season against an NFC East opponent in the Commanders. Rush had no problems hitting Wilson over the middle last year against the Vikings for a 70 yard TD.
 

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Dak's career is clearly at a crossroads. It was a mistake for the Cowboys organization to assume that Dak could go back to being a running QB and stay healthy. So Dak has no choice but to get better at decision making, ball placement and getting through his reads. Otherwise, his career is going to start circling the drain.
This is fair
 

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The problem with the eye test is that it makes comparisons without context.

Cowboys offensive game plan and playcalling vs Bucs was apples to the oranges that was Cowboys offensive game plan and playcalling vs Bengals.

You are literally comparing apples to oranges.



Completely false logic, as none of this tell us why the WRs were ‘more open’. The WRs could have been open because, Rush anticipates much better than Dak and threw it when they were open and didn’t allow the DBs to close. And that’s obvious to anybody that watched.

I have yet to se any proof the play calling was different. Rush has been basically a back up on this team for years and knows the offense. They don’t scale down anything with him. He won the Vikings game throwing similar routes that Dak does.

Dak was also throwing into double and triple coverage, meaning it wasn’t Moore’s fault Dak was a deer in headlights.

People trying to look for any excuse for Prescott’s garbage play.
 

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The only thing Dak excels at is being a streetball QB in garbage time. Very few do it better than him.
 

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Rush’s arm strength is not there. If he had arm strength, whatever little I’ve seen of him on the field, he’d be FAR superior than Dak. Quicker reads, better anticipation, gets the ball out quickly, better pocket presence, uses the middle of the field more..

He doesn't have a rocket but I think his "arm strength" is better than Dak's. One of Dak's major flaws is that he has no arm strength. He has to manufacture velocity on every throw. He can't just fire a pass using just his arm. He has to be in good form where he can engage his hip rotation. Too many times a QB needs to be able to get the ball out when he can't use good form or mechanics. How many times do the better QB's fire a strike while their body isn't square to their target, bodies around their legs, etc.? The answer is a lot.

I understand the doubt that Rush is a long term starter but we've seen that he at least gets the ball out & gives the receivers a chance. If I'm doing what is best for the team, I can't put a QB who just holds it unless the receiver is wide open back in the lineup. Unfortunately, we have seen 6 years and Dak is clearly going backwards. I doubt that we are going to magically see something different from him at this point.
 

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Completely false logic, as none of this tell us why the WRs were ‘more open’. The WRs could have been open because, Rush anticipates much better than Dak and threw it when they were open and didn’t allow the DBs to close. And that’s obvious to anybody that watched.

I have yet to se any proof the play calling was different. Rush has been basically a back up on this team for years and knows the offense. They don’t scale down anything with him. He won the Vikings game throwing similar routes that Dak does.

Dak was also throwing into double and triple coverage, meaning it wasn’t Moore’s fault Dak was a deer in headlights.

People trying to look for any excuse for Prescott’s garbage play.
I made a comment to someone who claimed Noah and Cooper have some sort of mystical connection...I guess form being on practice squad or 2nd team?

But Dak couldn't find a "connection" in what? 4 or 5 years? They blamed it on Noah being trash. Well...I'm not gonna say elite or 1 WR...but he clearly has skills and can contribute...if we get him the ball.

It's very damning to have the possibility that Coop can get him the ball and Dak can't. There's something there that needs sorted out and refined. I think we'll find the root of Dak's ...er..."struggles" in it.
 

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He doesn't have a rocket but I think his "arm strength" is better than Dak's. One of Dak's major flaws is that he has no arm strength. He has to manufacture velocity on every throw. He can't just fire a pass using just his arm. He has to be in good form where he can engage his hip rotation. Too many times a QB needs to be able to get the ball out when he can't use good form or mechanics. How many times do the better QB's fire a strike while their body isn't square to their target, bodies around their legs, etc.? The answer is a lot.

I understand the doubt that Rush is a long term starter but we've seen that he at least gets the ball out & gives the receivers a chance. If I'm doing what is best for the team, I can't put a QB who just holds it unless the receiver is wide open back in the lineup. Unfortunately, we have seen 6 years and Dak is clearly going backwards. I doubt that we are going to magically see something different from him at this point.

Spot on analysis… Dak’s mechanics and forced motions are nauseating to watch. Rush can get the ball out with little effort.
 
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