The 4th down throw was behind Brown

[RonnieT24]

I'll have to say Ronnie that's some great work cherry picking those stats because what Dak did 40 starts ago has no bearing on what he's doing now or 30 starts ago or 20 starts ago
Let's talk about what's happened lately
And you know what just for Spitz and giggles we're going to leave out the 51 points he scored against the eagles with their backups in and we're also going to leave out the 56 points scored against a totally injured ravaged Commander team as Cooper Rush did not have the opportunity to play any such compromise teams.

16 against the broncos 43 against Atlanta 9 against KC 33 against the raiders 27 against the saints 21 against the Giants 22 against the cards and in his last two starts 17 against the 49ers and 3 against the buccaneers.
Add all that up brother and divide by 9 and what you come up with is slightly better than Cooper Rush at 20 points a game but you are right it is more than 20 points a game it's like a whole 21 points a game.

And the last two starts are headed in a downward spiral. Could be cause for some concern. But you didn't hear that from me Carry on.

So if we leave out the games that favor Dak the points per game totals get closer? Who knew!?! The fact that you have to keep removing good games just to get it close says it all. What you did is the very definition of cherry picking. My sample size was 40.. you want to limit it to 8 and tell me that's better? Do you know how probability and statistics works?

Of course we are all concerned about the way Dak played last Sunday. Well not all .. some are absolutely gleeful that he had a bad game and have gone out of their way to try and make it seem that Rush is better. This thread was started to spit in their faces.. and their responses have been 100% predictable. Whenever Dak comes back if he throws up another 40 burger while passing for 3-4 TDs the ABD crowd will have premade excuses for why it doesn't matter and it's the Bucs game that should be used to define him. And I will laugh at them.

 

[G2]

For sure but we have thread after thread of the usual suspects trying to sell Rush as a better QB because the Team won a game with him.....Ronnie didnt say he was not for Rush winning was simply pointing out the bias that goes on here by these individuals....Dak needs to play better than he did in week 1 for sure, but lets not kid ourselves about which QB has the much higher ceiling on this team...Again you want to upgrade the QB position thats fine, dont sell me Rush if you have a healthy Dak it just shows a ridiculous bias.

It's truly remarkable. I started ignoring people that champion Rush to trash Dak. They're just not worth the time or energy.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

It's truly remarkable. I started ignoring people that champion Rush to trash Dak. They're just not worth the time or energy.

So how come ronnie wont break down daks near interceptions and off passes so we have a fair comparison? He is indeed trashing cooper to champion dak.
Under the guise of beating down "dak haters"? Does not matter.
And i also question the wisdom of even THAT...i think "they" have proven quite steadfast. This accomplishes nothing.

 

[G2]

So how come ronnie wont break down daks near interceptions and off passes so we have a fair comparison? He is indeed trashing cooper to champion dak.
Under the guise of beating down "dak haters"? Does not matter.
And i also question the wisdom of even THAT...i think "they" have proven quite steadfast. This accomplishes nothing.

There's no need for anyone to champion Dalk over Rush, that is ignorant at best.
Why don't you take it up with Ronnie, why are you asking me about what he thinks? He clearly cares about team wins over childish boners over a backup just because they get the feels about Dak.
Why do you care about Dak haters? Are you their volunteer savior?

 

[RonnieT24]

So how come ronnie wont break down daks near interceptions and off passes so we have a fair comparison? He is indeed trashing cooper to champion dak.
Under the guise of beating down "dak haters"? Does not matter.
And i also question the wisdom of even THAT...i think "they" have proven quite steadfast. This accomplishes nothing.

You don't get to decide what Ronnie is doing.. You want to think I am somehow bashing Rush.. go ahead.. Ronnie doesn't care.. I don't need to break down Dak's off target passes or near interceptions because I already know about them. I watch them every game. I also know that over his career he has completed a much higher percentage of his passes than has Rush and has one of the lowest INT percentages in NFL history. So the breakdown is kinda already done.

And as for accomplishing anything.. This is an internet football forum.. The object is to have fun talkin football. To which I will simply say.. mission accomplished.

 

[G2]

"Near INTs" is a talking point, lmao.

 

[5Stars]

Only the hit dawg holla...

A fact is information minus emotion. An opinion is information plus experience. Ignorance is an opinion lacking information. And, stupidity is an opinion that ignores a fact.

 

[CoachD]

The 4th down throw was behind Brown.........

and completed, 1st down Dallas.

 

[Blackrain]

So if we leave out the games that favor Dak the points per game totals get closer? Who knew!?! The fact that you have to keep removing good games just to get it close says it all. What you did is the very definition of cherry picking. My sample size was 40.. you want to limit it to 8 and tell me that's better? Do you know how probability and statistics works?

Of course we are all concerned about the way Dak played last Sunday. Well not all .. some are absolutely gleeful that he had a bad game and have gone out of their way to try and make it seem that Rush is better. This thread was started to spit in their faces.. and their responses have been 100% predictable. Whenever Dak comes back if he throws up another 40 burger while passing for 3-4 TDs the ABD crowd will have premade excuses for why it doesn't matter and it's the Bucs game that should be used to define him. And I will laugh at them.

I really don't understand your reasoning behind starting a thread to spit in people's faces that you really probably don't respect anyway.

I don't understand why you would cheap shot a guy with limited talent who's doing his best to try and keep our season going to spite this group of people.

I don't understand why you would be so critical of his efforts to prop up our starting quarterback

Is there any reason that intelligent posters like yourself can't just support both quarterbacks but be able to debate the positives and negatives of each one without feeling like they have to take a side.

The last two games that Cooper Rush started were important games that the other teams were trying to win and we scored 20 points in each game.

The last two games that Dak started both teams were also trying to win and we scored a total of 20 points 17 in one and three in the other.
These are just facts I'm not trying to spit in anybody's face I'm not saying this makes Cooper Rush better than Dak Prescott
Is it cause for concern possibly.

The games at the end of the season where Dak ran up the score over 50 on the eagles who were resting all their starters waiting for a playoff game and the other game where we ran up the score on the Commanders over 50 who had no starters due to injury really can't be viewed in the same context as the other games I just mentioned and distort Dak performance.
Just be fair Tell the whole story not just the part that fits your agenda

 

[Blackrain]

A fact is information minus emotion. An opinion is information plus experience. Ignorance is an opinion lacking information. And, stupidity is an opinion that ignores a fact.

Some facts that don't take circumstances into consideration can cause people to form an opinion because they are lacking all the information.
Such was the case with our offensive stats being overblown because of two games where teams did not have their starters on the field either by their design or due to injury and we ran the score up to the point where it distorted the facts.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You don't get to decide what Ronnie is doing.. You want to think I am somehow bashing Rush.. go ahead.. Ronnie doesn't care.. I don't need to break down Dak's off target passes or near interceptions because I already know about them. I watch them every game. I also know that over his career he has completed a much higher percentage of his passes than has Rush and has one of the lowest INT percentages in NFL history. So the breakdown is kinda already done.

And as for accomplishing anything.. This is an internet football forum.. The object is to have fun talkin football. To which I will simply say.. mission accomplished.

Of course you can do and say what you want. As well as can I. I never said otherwise. Disagreement doesnt mean censorship. Nor should it mean hostility.
By your own admission....this is more about sticking to dak haters than football. You rationalize it you suit your crusade.

Im sure you FEEL better....but nothing else has changed. Except 18 pages of data added to server.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I really don't understand your reasoning behind starting a thread to spit in people's faces that you really probably don't respect anyway.

I don't understand why you would cheap shot a guy with limited talent who's doing his best to try and keep our season going to spite this group of people.

I don't understand why you would be so critical of his efforts to prop up our starting quarterback

Is there any reason that intelligent posters like yourself can't just support both quarterbacks but be able to debate the positives and negatives of each one without feeling like they have to take a side.

The last two games that Cooper Rush started were important games that the other teams were trying to win and we scored 20 points in each game.

The last two games that Dak started both teams were also trying to win and we scored a total of 20 points 17 in one and three in the other.
These are just facts I'm not trying to spit in anybody's face I'm not saying this makes Cooper Rush better than Dak Prescott
Is it cause for concern possibly.

The games at the end of the season where Dak ran up the score over 50 on the eagles who were resting all their starters waiting for a playoff game and the other game where we ran up the score on the Football Team over 50 who had no starters due to injury really can't be viewed in the same context as the other games I just mentioned and distort Dak performance.
Just be fair Tell the whole story not just the part that fits your agenda

Very well done, sir.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

There's no need for anyone to champion Dalk over Rush, that is ignorant at best.
Why don't you take it up with Ronnie, why are you asking me about what he thinks? He clearly cares about team wins over childish boners over a backup just because they get the feels about Dak.
Why do you care about Dak haters? Are you their volunteer savior?

You seem to care more about dak haters than me. What makes you think i care at all? Im not defending dak haters one bit.
I do object to the premise of criticizing a player to make another look better in order to publicly condemn people who dont agree.

Might be too philosophically deep for you....its okay.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

For sure but we have thread after thread of the usual suspects trying to sell Rush as a better QB because the Team won a game with him.....Ronnie didnt say he was not for Rush winning was simply pointing out the bias that goes on here by these individuals....Dak needs to play better than he did in week 1 for sure, but lets not kid ourselves about which QB has the much higher ceiling on this team...Again you want to upgrade the QB position thats fine, dont sell me Rush if you have a healthy Dak it just shows a ridiculous bias.

So with this thread....the very few "usual suspects" have finally been exposed and finally have a change of heart?

 

[RonnieT24]

So with this thread....the very few "usual suspects" have finally been exposed and finally have a change of heart?

Nope.. we got them to chime in and reveal their colors .. And we had some fun at their expense.. I'm good with that.

 

[Runwildboys]

Just your opinion from your couch. Means absolutely nada.

Until you realize he believes the same things you believe.

 

[RonnieT24]

I really don't understand your reasoning behind starting a thread to spit in people's faces that you really probably don't respect anyway.

I don't understand why you would cheap shot a guy with limited talent who's doing his best to try and keep our season going to spite this group of people.

People taking my points as a cheap shot at Rush are simply projecting their own emotions onto me. I pointed out the passes that were poorly thrown but since the outcome was favorable we were okay with. Mind you Rush DID make some absolutely wonderful throws in that game.

I don't understand why you would be so critical of his efforts to prop up our starting quarterback

Is there any reason that intelligent posters like yourself can't just support both quarterbacks but be able to debate the positives and negatives of each one without feeling like they have to take a side.

I don't prop up anybody. Dak has played like horse crap the last two times we've seen him. If he doesn't play better he will need to leave town.

The last two games that Cooper Rush started were important games that the other teams were trying to win and we scored 20 points in each game.

The last two games that Dak started both teams were also trying to win and we scored a total of 20 points 17 in one and three in the other.

So in games we won the other teams weren't trying.. but in the games we lost they were?

Check..

These are just facts I'm not trying to spit in anybody's face I'm not saying this makes Cooper Rush better than Dak Prescott
Is it cause for concern possibly.

The games at the end of the season where Dak ran up the score over 50 on the eagles who were resting all their starters waiting for a playoff game and the other game where we ran up the score on the Football Team over 50 who had no starters due to injury really can't be viewed in the same context as the other games I just mentioned and distort Dak performance.
Just be fair Tell the whole story not just the part that fits your agenda

This is an odd take because a quick scan of their starting lineup that game I see Terry McLauren, Antonio Gibson, Jonathan Allen, Daron Payne, Montez Swat, Matt Iannidis, Kendall Fuller.. Oh and since he had started every game that season he gets counted as a starter.. Taylor Heinicke.. Did they have some guys hurt? Sure they did.. but what NFL team doesn't have guys hurt in week 15? Just trying to tell the whole story..

 

[Rockport]

Until you realize he believes the same things you believe.

It would still be just opinions.

 

[Runwildboys]

It would still be just opinions.

True, but you probably wouldn't have said so, had you known...and that's understandable.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

People taking my points as a cheap shot at Rush are simply projecting their own emotions onto me. I pointed out the passes that were poorly thrown but since the outcome was favorable we were okay with. Mind you Rush DID make some absolutely wonderful throws in that game.




I don't prop up anybody. Dak has played like horse crap the last two times we've seen him. If he doesn't play better he will need to leave town.



So in games we won the other teams weren't trying.. but in the games we lost they were?

Check..




This is an odd take because a quick scan of their starting lineup that game I see Terry McLauren, Antonio Gibson, Jonathan Allen, Daron Payne, Montez Swat, Matt Iannidis, Kendall Fuller.. Oh and since he had started every game that season he gets counted as a starter.. Taylor Heinicke.. Did they have some guys hurt? Sure they did.. but what NFL team doesn't have guys hurt in week 15? Just trying to tell the whole story..

Fact remains you listed coopers "shortcomings" without listing daks. There's the flaw in your rationale. You claim to be showing dak haters whats what....but theres nothing to compare to...

You claim you dont need to....and youd be wrong. How can we say better or worse without it?