CFZ Sturm was dead wrong about Dak Prescott

RS12

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Ken, Ken, Ken....

Being very successful against the blitz and man coverage is great, but it means nothing if teams stop blitzing and start making you beat their zone coverages, and you suck at that.

And no.... it is not everyone else's fault. It's been apparent since the beginning.
This times 10.
 

elcowboi

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Somebody's angry...Sturm needs to apologize to you rat now!!! Lol.
 

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Agree 100%........there is NO EXCUSE for week one performance. Blame play calling, receivers, or whatever but the fact is he had all camp to clean it up. Just pure speculation here but I'm starting to wonder if the pressure getting to him. By that I mean, the expectation of a Cowboy QB, $40M contract, social media and perhaps some internal things we don't know about. JMO


The season doesn't end after Week 1 - you're aware, correct?
 

nalam

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I'm not a big fan of Kellen Moore, but he's in a tough spot having to revolve an offense around such a limited QB.

Dak can no longer rely on a dominant OL or run game or loaded WR corps, partly because he's taking up 20% of the team's salary space himself.

And now, defenses know exactly how to beat him.

Again, very tough spot for Moore to be in.

I respect Sturm for admitting he may have been wrong about Dak. That takes some maturity (way more than many on this board have).

no question about the bolded part , but I don’t agree it is a tough spot for Moore to be in. If he is an offensive genius as proclaimed , he can definitely dumb it down and make Daks tendencies into a strength by establishing a dink and dak attack format which has lot of wheel routes , RB/ TE Screens to move the ball and use run game to bail out some short yardage situations, it will require patience and attention to detail.

instead he is trying to call plays as Dak is peyton manning.
 

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Simple, bro.

You just choose not to open them, read them and post in them.

You're welcome.
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RS12

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no question about the bolded part , but I don’t agree it is a tough spot for Moore to be in. If he is an offensive genius as proclaimed , he can definitely dumb it down and make Daks tendencies into a strength by establishing a dink and dak attack format which has lot of wheel routes , RB/ TE Screens to move the ball and use run game to bail out some short yardage situations, it will require patience and attention to detail.

instead he is trying to call plays as Dak is peyton manning.
I posted a next Gen stat tweet after the TB game that was passes thrown by the Cowboys. It was dots showing where the passes went on the field. All but one dot was within 20 yards of LOS and most incomplete. You can't win in the NFL if an opposing defense can constrict your offense into 20 yards of space. You have to have chunk plays to create space and loosen up the defense. You also have to have a QB that can make down field throws from the pocket. Dak isn't getting that done now. And don't bother with stats against a JV defense I have seen and heard it before.
 

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Agree 100%........there is NO EXCUSE for week one performance. Blame play calling, receivers, or whatever but the fact is he had all camp to clean it up. Just pure speculation here but I'm starting to wonder if the pressure getting to him. By that I mean, the expectation of a Cowboy QB, $40M contract, social media and perhaps some internal things we don't know about. JMO
Yes, those are all possibilities.
Whats so frustrating to me was how good he looked the first 6 games last year.
That leads you to believe he has the potential to be great.
After all off season to get healthy and to work on his game to give that putrid week One performance was so deflating.
 

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Simple, bro.

You just choose not to open them, read them and post in them.

You're welcome.
Thanks for solving the mystery detective, it was rhetorical. :lmao:
Bro
 

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What is the earliest reasonable out on Dak’s contract?

I asked this the other day. I still dont know.

Is Dak untradeable at 40M? The NFL cap rules I quickly read the other day said the salary goes to the new team if a player is traded. Is there still a cap hit to Dallas? Or would no team touch Dak is Dallas was willing to trade him because its a major red flag? Or is Jerry unwilling to admit mistake by trading Dak?

I get that cutting him there would be cap hits....but trading him?
 

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I can also help you with your sarcasm game.... I'm just saying....

Seriously though, if you want some coaching, let me know.
Awe, he thinks he's helping!
 

Ken

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Why should I stop? You made the bet. Own it. Soak it in.

Dak - 48.3% (YIKES), 134 yards, 0 TDs, 1 Ints, 47.2 rating (YIKES again)
Patty- 70.0%, 595 yards, 7 Tds, 0 ints, 127.9 rating.

Not looking good for you, Ken.
Take a look at patty's upcoming schedule.

I will remember all of your premature gloating.
 

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Anyone with two active brain cells knows Dak doesn't hold a candle to Romo talent wise. Not even close. At one point it looked like Dak was finally making that transition but he has regressed.

He was handed a cadillac of an offense that only got better with the Cooper signing. Damn near 25+ starting quarterbacks let alone rookies would kill for the offense he inherited. All he had to do was drive the bus straight and learn / slowly take over. Doesn't look like that's ever going to happen. Hate to say it but he's basically the product of his environment.


There's probably only a handful of Dak tards(99% stat chasers) like AC and the one dude who threatens to show up at people's houses like a psychopath that still defend Dak like he's Brady.

Now don't get me wrong I don't hate Dak. I accept him as he Is which is an above average quarterback. Can we win a superbowl with him? Sure if he's loaded with talent around him but it won't be because of him.

However that previous statement is a lie. We won't win another superbowl no matter the quarterbacks as long as JJ and SJ has a death grip on this organization
 

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Ken, Ken, Ken....

Being very successful against the blitz and man coverage is great, but it means nothing if teams stop blitzing and start making you beat their zone coverages, and you suck at that.

And no.... it is not everyone else's fault. It's been apparent since the beginning.
Well how do you beat this coverage then, Mr. Football?

Why did the less talented defenses not see the same success after this blueprint was established?

Hint: The same coverage befuddled Patty vs the Bengals in the playoffs. Same issues exist on Chiefs. But not ALL of the same issues.

Let's see if you can start connecting some synapses and a light goes on for you.
 

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In the Atlantic, Sturm wrote an article entitled, “Cowboys QB Dak Prescott is 29, It is Time to Win.” Since we can’t post from that magazine as per the filter on this forum, I suggest you Google it and read it. The reality is Sturm has been the typical fanboy of Dak and he often took jabs at Romo at Dak’s expense. But even Sturm can’t make excuses anymore for Dak.

Sturm has been holding on for years the notion that Dak has been getting harshly criticized because Romo fans, since their boy Romk got the blame, they would make sure Dak got it worse, which is a crock of garbage, as the excuses for Romo were legitimate, while the excuses for Dak were not. In the August 12th article in the Atlantic Sturm basically says Dak is 29 and he no longer has excuses.

The main point I want to emphasize, and it’s clear to anybody reading it, what “the haters” were saying is true and that “teams figured the offense out”, though in reality is was, Dak is quite possibly the most over-rated player in NFL history. Sturm points out in weeks 1 to 8, Dallas was the most blitzed team in the league. After that, teams stopped bringing the pressure and Dak didn’t see the man coverage looks regularly, and the offense took a nosedive. They were the 22nd most blitzed team after week 8 when all was said and done. Dallas offense saw just as much cover 2 and cover 3 defenses as any other team from then on. The 49ers played zone defense as a staple and could get pressure without bringing extra rushers and we all know how bad Dak looked. If it weren’t for JG almost giving them the game with one of his typical awful INTs he is known for that essentially gave Dallas the ball in scoring position the game would have been a complete blowout. Even Sturm admits the wins in the last half of the season were against bums and Eagles junior varsity team and were empty calories, per how on words.

Facts are we’ve been saying Dak sucks against zone coverage, to the point he becomes a mediocrity. What masked his warts against zone is his lack of risk-taking so he resorts to short dump offs and check-downs which use to keep the INTs down. He’s “mentally weak” as a QB. He’s been getting away with it, because teams were forced to bring pressure because of how good the OL and RG were. I was saying I don’t even know why defenses do it do much even during those days, because the data was always there. Dak is horrible at anticipating his WRs getting open and can’t process the whole field. He goes into a shell against and takes the check-down. Teams use to give way too much respect to the OL and RG to the point they made it much easier for Dak to look better than he actually was with all the explosive talent he has around him.

What do people expect Moore to do? Sturm even admitted it’s the same trend with Dak with each year, including blaming the coaches. He said what we said, which is the same red zone issues pop up and his performance of third down is abysmal. He also basically said the “young and developing QB” excuse no longer holds.

I mean yeah, this owner is dysfunctional and nothing signals dysfunction more than making Dak your franchise QB. So we can admit that Jerry Jones is a buffoon, but we can also admit Dak exemplifies the buffoonery of Jerry. We can also admit that Sturm was dead wrong about his boy Dak Prescott.


You’ve been sucked.
 

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He's a likable player that beat the odds. It's interesting how his rookie year laid the egg for where he is now.......QB with a $40M per contract trying to meet the 2016 expectations of fans.

The problem is, defenses adjusted to the tape just like they did with RG3. The FO and fans shouldn’t have had high expected anyways, considering the QB in front of him and what he was doing in practice,

The reality is, teams found out all you had to do was bracket Beasley in coverage and sit on his out routes. After they scape-goatee Dez from ‘taking all the passes”, Dak the next year was saying Beasley was his number 1 WR and expanded route tree wo

When asked earlier this offseason, QuarterbackDak Prescott stated that “Beasley is his No. 1 receiver” and it should come to no surprise. The two hit it off immediately in the Prescott's rookie season in 2016, which just so happened to be Beasley's most productive. Unfortunately, things didn't go as well in 2017 when opposing defenses decided to take #11 out of the equation by bracketing him in coverage.

I know I'm not alone here, but last season I was completely baffled that Offensive CoordinatorScott Linehan didn't do a better job of scheming ways to help Cole Beasley get open more on a regular basis. Fortunately, it's looking as if he has learned from his mistake and that's exactly what he's going to in 2018.

The fact is, going back to 2016 offense would make them look even worse than now, as they no longer have the dominant OL and RG, plus the passing game would go back to being simple and it would be 2017 all over again, but worse.
 
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