Rush vs Dak: Vision of field

[CowboyRoy]

I don’t think the erased interceptions were related to inability to see the field.

How can they not? Had it been Dak you would be focusing on it. Hell Dak was driving the bus and won 11 in a row his rookie year and all you could complain about was how we cant carry the team and doenst put up the stats of the better QB's.

Cooper wins 3 driving the bus and he's the best thing since sliced bread and better than Dak? LOL

More laughable troll logic.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That three points that the Cowboys put up in game one really solidifies your position on the matter. Lol.

I’m not for Rush over Dak or Dak over Rush. I am just discussing obvious differences. Are you suggesting that Dak has great field vision? The Tampa Bay game is a pretty strong example that is simply not the case.

Uh Oh, we have a cherry picker!!!!

Dak's been playing for over 6 years. You lost this argument years ago.

 

[Vtwin]

Coaches should get the blame....they're big boys, it comes with the territory. If you bother to read it objectively, you might get it.

I do get it. Your coaches point of view is far from objective however.

What you're not getting is, it's not about blame, or who should take the blame. If I were the coach, I would take the blame. If I were the QB I would take the blame. That's what leaders do. It does come with the territory. Publicly accept responsibility then privately sort things out.

Neither you or I are coaching or QB'ing this team. We are fans. We have the luxury of breaking down and analyzing what we see. We can call it like we see it with zero ramifications on the team.

I would be right in Dak's face, making him explain every audible in a post game debrief. I would do whatever I had to do to sort it out and get us both on the same page. I would think Moore would do that too BUT, and it's a big BUT, we don't know just how things roll in in Jerryworld. I'm sure we've both heard enough over the years to suggest that Moore might not have quite the authority that most OC's do.

The point is, you can blame Moore simply because he's the coach so he "should" take the blame but that is very short sighted from the fan perspective. There is nothing wrong with calling it like we see it and presenting a reasonable argument as to why we see it that way. Even if it hurts the feelings of some of the more insecure and emotional among us. Which it shouldn't, but apparently does.

 

[Ranching]

I do get it. Your coaches point of view is far from objective however.

What you're not getting is, it's not about blame, or who should take the blame. If I were the coach, I would take the blame. If I were the QB I would take the blame. That's what leaders do. It does come with the territory. Publicly accept responsibility then privately sort things out.

Neither you or I are coaching or QB'ing this team. We are fans. We have the luxury of breaking down and analyzing what we see. We can call it like we see it with zero ramifications on the team.

I would be right in Dak's face, making him explain every audible in a post game debrief. I would do whatever I had to do to sort it out and get us both on the same page. I would think Moore would do that too BUT, and it's a big BUT, we don't know just how things roll in in Jerryworld. I'm sure we've both heard enough over the years to suggest that Moore might not have quite the authority that most OC's do.

The point is, you can blame Moore simply because he's the coach so he "should" take the blame but that is very short sighted from the fan perspective. There is nothing wrong with calling it like we see it and presenting a reasonable argument as to why we see it that way. Even if it hurts the feelings of some of the more insecure and emotional among us. Which it shouldn't, but apparently does.

Hard to break down film effectively without knowing what the call or assignment is. Can't be done....that's said, if a player is not running the plays effectively, it is up the the coach to make adjustments and put his player in a position to succeed.

 

[Slick]

Some of you are something else. I root for Rush cause he's a Cowboy and think he's simply driving the bus as a backup QB should. But i'm going to say this....if Dak put up the same numbers as Rush, you guys would say, we're not going to make it with those numbers. I know because some of you said it before. So STOP IT! Cooper Rush is doing a very good job as a BACKUP. NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM IS HE BETTER THAN DAK. Look back at the threads and read how Dak gets talked bad about because he didn't put up big passing numbers. Now that Cooper Rush is putting up similar numbers.....HE'S GREAT! He's doing a good job but he's no where near the talent of Dak.

He is winning though.

 

[Vtwin]

Hard to break down film effectively without knowing what the call or assignment is. Can't be done....that's said, if a player is not running the plays effectively, it is up the the coach to make adjustments and put his player in a position to succeed.

You don't hold the final decision maker, who happens to be regarded as some kind of great leader, responsible for his role?

Remember. You're not the coach. You're not speaking to the media. What you say will not get back to the team, nor affect them in any way. You can be objective.

Again, it's not either/or.

 

[FTWayne]

Rush seems to be throwing to his first or second read most of the time....that's why he get rid of the ball as quickly as he does. Dak goes through his progression a lot more, trying for the big play. Takes him longer and leads to more sacks and pressures. This is something KM needs to address.

He going through more because his perception of NFL open is not as good as Rush.

 

[FTWayne]

One more mind boggling fact, Moore who many on here say is an awful OC, but according so many on here has install a "whole new offense" for a guy with weak arm. Why can he fix Dak? Strange.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Aww, you feel left out? I'll invite you as well. Feel better?

No...but I support your useless crusade anyway...even though it takes up a lot of space on the server!

Man has to have his love in life!

Have a great time anyway.

 

[75boyz]

I do get it. Your coaches point of view is far from objective however.

What you're not getting is, it's not about blame, or who should take the blame. If I were the coach, I would take the blame. If I were the QB I would take the blame. That's what leaders do. It does come with the territory. Publicly accept responsibility then privately sort things out.

Neither you or I are coaching or QB'ing this team. We are fans. We have the luxury of breaking down and analyzing what we see. We can call it like we see it with zero ramifications on the team.

I would be right in Dak's face, making him explain every audible in a post game debrief. I would do whatever I had to do to sort it out and get us both on the same page. I would think Moore would do that too BUT, and it's a big BUT, we don't know just how things roll in in Jerryworld. I'm sure we've both heard enough over the years to suggest that Moore might not have quite the authority that most OC's do.

The point is, you can blame Moore simply because he's the coach so he "should" take the blame but that is very short sighted from the fan perspective. There is nothing wrong with calling it like we see it and presenting a reasonable argument as to why we see it that way. Even if it hurts the feelings of some of the more insecure and emotional among us. Which it shouldn't, but apparently does.

Freakin' love you man, lol.

 

[Nexx]

One more mind boggling fact, Moore who many on here say is an awful OC, but according so many on here has install a "whole new offense" for a guy with weak arm. Why can he fix Dak? Strange.

literally they will come up with every excuse in the book for Dak. It's never on him.

 

[Vtwin]

Freakin' love you man, lol.

Big ol' bro hug coming at ya.

 

[Ranching]

He going through more because his perception of NFL open is not as good as Rush.

 

[Ranching]

One more mind boggling fact, Moore who many on here say is an awful OC, but according so many on here has install a "whole new offense" for a guy with weak arm. Why can he fix Dak? Strange.

Dak isn't broken....he had a record setting season last year. One bad game this year and now he's broken. Everyone has an agenda.

 

[Ranching]

You don't hold the final decision maker, who happens to be regarded as some kind of great leader, responsible for his role?

Remember. You're not the coach. You're not speaking to the media. What you say will not get back to the team, nor affect them in any way. You can be objective.

Again, it's not either/or.

At the end of the day, it's a coaches decision on who to play and what plays to call.....so, yes, I hold the coaches accountable. If you put him in the game, coach him up. Players get an earful in the filmroom....but, ultimately if a player isn't cutting it, he shouldn't be in the game. Jerry may have something to do with it, not sure about that. A HC needs to hold his assistants accountable and I turn they hold the players accountable. just speaking from my experiences.

 

[FTWayne]

Dak isn't broken....he had a record setting season last year. One bad game this year and now he's broken. Everyone has an agenda.

So differing opinions are an agenda. So your opinion might be an agenda since it differs from some on here?

 

[Vtwin]

At the end of the day, it's a coaches decision on who to play and what plays to call.....so, yes, I hold the coaches accountable. If you put him in the game, coach him up. Players get an earful in the filmroom....but, ultimately if a player isn't cutting it, he shouldn't be in the game. Jerry may have something to do with it, not sure about that. A HC needs to hold his assistants accountable and I turn they hold the players accountable. just speaking from my experiences.

We're talking about two different things here. I don't disagree with your coach's perspective. Neither of us are coaches, though. We are both fans of the team.

Since I can't get you to come from your fan perspective let me ask you this from your coach's perspective.

If Dak is audibling out of the primary call as much as Moore indicated he was, with negative consequences, and he kept doing it after being coached not to, would you replace him as you suggested above? Should they both be replaced? It sounds as if that is what you are saying?

 

[Ranching]

So differing opinions are an agenda. So your opinion might be an agenda since it differs from some on here?

I said EVERYONE, it isn't difficult to understand that I am part of everyone....is it?

 

[FTWayne]

I said EVERYONE, it isn't difficult to understand that I am part of everyone....is it?

With an agenda. Dak come by the ranch and sign a jersey for you.

 

[Ranching]

We're talking about two different things here. I don't disagree with your coach's perspective. Neither of us are coaches, though. We are both fans of the team.

Since I can't get you to come from your fan perspective let me ask you this from your coach's perspective.

If Dak is audibling out of the primary call as much as Moore indicated he was, with negative consequences, and he kept doing it after being coached not to, would you replace him as you suggested above? Should they both be replaced? It sounds as if that is what you are saying?

I've said before that Dak shouldn't be given so much freedom. The OC can call a stick, which means Dak needs to stick to the call, he can also call a, check with me, which limits what he can audible into.