Which coach in their prime? Tom Landry or Jimmy Johnson?

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Oh wow, I thought the premise was "Which coach in his prime would you want for this team?"...I don't know how I came up with that.

To answer the actual question: Tom
 

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Tap the brakes on that....watch the video where he was packing up his office...plaid shirt and plaid slacks.....yikes!!!

As a coach....Jimmy....hands down!!!

Whoa now hold here ….I didn’t think Landry had to wear a Fedora shined Florsheims and sport coat and tie to Pack boxes yikes . I’m talking Landry best dressed NFL Coach on the Sidelines hands down . A close second was Weeb Eubank ….:starspin:
 
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I say Landry . He was the most innovative coach of his time . Heck Gil Brandt was using computers to draft and store information when the Vikings were using pen and paper to lose 4 SB’s not an easy task .

The flex defense the linemen maneuvering on the OLine pre snap . Not to mention the innovation of cheerleaders as opposed to the Washington George Allen’s trading any and all draft picks .
 

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The sad thing is we don't have a 3rd option because all of our coaches have sucked since Jimmy left.
 

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I say Landry . He was the most innovative coach of his time . Heck Gil Brandt was using computers to draft and store information when the Vikings were using pen and paper to lose 4 SB’s not an easy task .

The flex defense the linemen maneuvering on the OLine pre snap . Not to mention the innovation of cheerleaders as opposed to the Washington George Allen’s trading any and all draft picks .
Tom didn't want the cheerleaders. He considered that 'smut'.
 

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You could be right . Glad Tex Schram cast the tie breaker. :grin:
An excerpt from an article:

When the porn movie Debbie Does Dallas was being made a few years later, word came that the lead character was a Cowboys cheerleader, dressed in the official garb with the Cowboys' emblem. Aghast, Schramm sued, successfully, to prevent such infringement. But Schramm got what he needed from the movie, not only in its wink-and-nod PR value but also for a moral justification of the cowboys, most of all for Landry. Schramm once amusingly told of arguing with the coach about the image of the cheerleaders, Landry's objection being 'all the flesh they were showing.'

"'Tom,' Schramm said, 'just go to the beach and look around.'

"'Well, they're not wholesome.'

"As Schramm recalled, he happened to have a copy of the skin flick in his office. 'I put the tape on the machine. It was a scene in the shower, with all these guys and girls going at it, an orgy in the shower. He [Tom] stood there looking at it in disbelief,' though apparently he didn't turn the machine off. Finally, Tex turned to him and said, 'Tom, this is not wholesome.' Concluded Schramm: 'He nodded and left and never said anything about it again.' "
 

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Great question, very difficult to answer.

Landry was an innovator, he was ahead of his time. Had his hands in EVERYTHING, they did. Shifting, multiple offense, the Flex, he routinely had dynamic special teams. No free agency, but he placed his team in contention for 20 straight years.

Jimny, with his psychology degree, may have understood his players and what made them tick, better than any modern coach. I think he was very astute at personnel and the draft, probably the biggest component of which, was acquiring a ton of draft capital because he knew you weren’t going to hit on every personnel decision.

I’d probably take Landry for his consistent and longer body of work. Jimmy was like a comet. Very fortunate to have been able to watch both do their thing.
It has been one my life's thrills to see their successes.
 

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An excerpt from an article:

When the porn movie Debbie Does Dallas was being made a few years later, word came that the lead character was a Cowboys cheerleader, dressed in the official garb with the Cowboys' emblem. Aghast, Schramm sued, successfully, to prevent such infringement. But Schramm got what he needed from the movie, not only in its wink-and-nod PR value but also for a moral justification of the cowboys, most of all for Landry. Schramm once amusingly told of arguing with the coach about the image of the cheerleaders, Landry's objection being 'all the flesh they were showing.'

"'Tom,' Schramm said, 'just go to the beach and look around.'

"'Well, they're not wholesome.'

"As Schramm recalled, he happened to have a copy of the skin flick in his office. 'I put the tape on the machine. It was a scene in the shower, with all these guys and girls going at it, an orgy in the shower. He [Tom] stood there looking at it in disbelief,' though apparently he didn't turn the machine off. Finally, Tex turned to him and said, 'Tom, this is not wholesome.' Concluded Schramm: 'He nodded and left and never said anything about it again.' "
Now, that is some expert salesmanship.
 

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Dick Vermeil went to that one SB and George Allen had his successes and the Giants until Parcells were abysmal for decades . Tom kept Dallas in contention yr after yr after yr . Jimmy was more like a shining meteor that brought success back to Dallas but I go with Landry after the domination really of a division for so long .
 

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Difficult choice.
However, if I was a player, I rather play for Jimmy Johnson.
I loved Tom Landry, but as a player I bet he was hard to read. Maybe that's a good thing.
But with Jimmy Johnson, I think his players knew exactly where they stood in the pecking order.
 
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