CFZ Hendershot Finding Niche Outside of the TE Position?

[kskboys]

Of all of our TE’s Hendershot has the greatest ability of being able to get downfield, not sure why we do not utilize him more in that area. Do love our TE group though. Both Hendershot and Ferguson were excellent pick ups this year, nice cheap contracts.

Since Shotty runs a 4.8 forty, and getting downfield was listed as one of his weaknesses, why would you think that?

Schultz is the best downfield receiver among our TE's, and it's not really close from what I can gather.

 

[kskboys]

A name I grow more and more intrigued with is TE - Michael Mayer out of Notre Dame. I wasn’t a huge fan if we were picking in the early 20s. But if we end up picking late 20s he is somebody I would love to get.

You want us to take a TE in the first in the next draft?

This thread is littered w/ insanities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Carson]

You want us to take a TE in the first in the next draft?

This thread is littered w/ insanities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn’t advocate for a TE. I was saying the more and more we slide in the first the more value it is. If you’re picking at 29 and he’s on the board he will be the BPA. It’s better than reaching on a Bobby Carpenter, Taco Charlton or another Kelvin Joseph

 

[kskboys]

I didn’t advocate for a TE. I was saying the more and more we slide in the first the more value it is. If you’re picking at 29 and he’s on the board he will be the BPA. It’s better than reaching on a Bobby Carpenter, Taco Charlton or another Kelvin Joseph

Or Chris Jones or Bobby Wagner or Trevon DIggs or Sam Williams or Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees or Jon Taylor or Zach Martin.

 

[Pass2Run]

he looks quite athletic. fluid movement. didn't look like a normal lumbering TE running on that end around. he just needs more experience.

That's what I think.

I think we can use him as an H-back-type player in certain situations.

The Cowboys have a lot of ways to make their offense unpredictable.

 

[Pass2Run]

yes, absolutely. don't think he's remotely worth 10 mil. and he's not a very good blocker anyway. let these kids replace him

Maybe I'm wrong. But I don't think there's anything that says we have to pay him 10 million.

Next year is a different year.

Or am I wrong?

On some levels, you keep Shultz now that he has integrated himself into these guys, sharing time and working well with them.

He's probably helping them more than we know. I notice a lot of comradery amongst them.

Gosh I sound old. lol

 

[kskboys]

Maybe I'm wrong. But I don't think there's anything that says we have to pay him 10 million.

Next year is a different year.

Or am I wrong?

On some levels, you keep Shultz now that he has integrated himself into these guys, sharing time and working well with them.

He's probably helping them more than we know. I notice a lot of comradery amongst them.

Gosh I sound old. lol

You offer Schultzie a nice contract, around 6-7 mil/season. If he wants more, you simply move on.

 

[McKDaddy]

The first question is what identity are we trying to be. If you want to be a smash mouth football team, wouldn't you want your TE's to be blockers more so than deep threats? If you are going to roll with current receiving core next year, then maybe you need downfield threat from your TE to compliment them. I like all our TE's FWIW. But I'm going to build my team & spend my money based on what skills I need from my TE's.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

That's what I think.

I think we can use him as an H-back-type player in certain situations.

The Cowboys have a lot of ways to make their offense unpredictable.

its up to more. that play with hendershot was a good design. using a player to his strength and surprising the defense.

 

[xwalker]

I posted about Hendershot earlier this year having the ability to help the offense after our sluggish start in the opener. Most people who replied in that thread had a good laugh at my expense. So it's nice to get the last laugh here, because I mentioned in that post that Hendershot could help the offense as a passing weapon, but I also mentioned he has the skills to be a backfield player in the running game as a blocker, runner, receiver and pre-snap motion piece.

At the end of the day, it's not about my previous assessment, it's more about the Cowboys FO and scouting staff have been doing a good job up front, and then the coaches on the backend being optimistic/open-minded enough to give him a role outside of his previously projected role as solely a TE.

Kudos to Kellen Moore and Lunda Wells here.

Hendershot helps the offense because he's a load, you have to account for him. One negative in his scouting report was that he goes down too easily. But I looked at the tape and that's the case, sometimes, but not always. And he has room and the ability to improve there.

Like Sam Williams, he also comes off as a nice guy when he speaks. And his draft stock was killed after the criminal charges were levied against him from a previous relationship. This probably wouldn't have phased me if I was in charge, because I know the nature of our system and society and have a pretty good grasp on psychology in general and how things go with these kinds of allegations, which are often merely control tactics women use when they don't get their way.

But I'm really rooting for Hendershot as a player, because he has the ability to turn into something special as a player and he apparently is a hard worker on the field.

On top of Hendershot, Jake Ferguson is also impressive. I suspected that would be the case. But after the draft, I couldn't decide which prospect had more potential between Hendershot and Ferguson. I still can't call that 100 percent, but I do think Hendershot has a slightly higher ceiling becuase he has the potential to be a more diverse player who can play TE, FB, H-back and ST.

McKeon has played more of the "backfield" role.
- i.e. Fullback alignments and other H-back roles.

Hendershot normally aligns at the end of the line. Either on the line or 1 step back. They bring him across the backfield before/after the snap but they do that with all the TEs including Schultz.

Offensive Snaps Played NYG game
Schultz 63
Ferguson 36
Hendershot 20
McKeon 17

Season
Ferguson 14 of 17, 2 TDs
Hendershot 10 of 14, 1 TD

 

[Beaker42]

Exactly what I was about to say…

Would like to see him downfield a little more, but I doubt we see it this year. Maybe next when 86 moves on.

Hendershot is hopefully Jarwin+ but minus the fragility.

 

[blueblood70]

I didn’t advocate for a TE. I was saying the more and more we slide in the first the more value it is. If you’re picking at 29 and he’s on the board he will be the BPA. It’s better than reaching on a Bobby Carpenter, Taco Charlton or another Kelvin Joseph

nah if that happens a RB would be great pick there like Bijon Robinson slides there you grab him. with possibility zekes gone for 23 and Pollard signs just one year FT deal , we will get Malik quality snaps and then work in a RB.

we are really not in need of a TE at all.

1st round bottom 10 positions of more overusing

CB maybe brown and lewis gone
RB
WR
NT

 

[xwalker]

Since Shotty runs a 4.8 forty, and getting downfield was listed as one of his weaknesses, why would you think that?

Schultz is the best downfield receiver among our TE's, and it's not really close from what I can gather.

Forty times forty TEs don't always correlate to success. Witten was about 4.68 but NFL CBs struggled to cover him. Witten and Byron Jones often practiced against each other and it seemed to defy physics seeing Witten breaking the ankles of an uber athlete like BJ.

Hendershot had a good 10 yard and 3-cone times.
- He "looks" like the quickest of the 4 TEs on the roster.

 

[cnuball21]

I posted about Hendershot earlier this year having the ability to help the offense after our sluggish start in the opener. Most people who replied in that thread had a good laugh at my expense. So it's nice to get the last laugh here, because I mentioned in that post that Hendershot could help the offense as a passing weapon, but I also mentioned he has the skills to be a backfield player in the running game as a blocker, runner, receiver and pre-snap motion piece.

At the end of the day, it's not about my previous assessment, it's more about the Cowboys FO and scouting staff have been doing a good job up front, and then the coaches on the backend being optimistic/open-minded enough to give him a role outside of his previously projected role as solely a TE.

Kudos to Kellen Moore and Lunda Wells here.

Hendershot helps the offense because he's a load, you have to account for him. One negative in his scouting report was that he goes down too easily. But I looked at the tape and that's the case, sometimes, but not always. And he has room and the ability to improve there.

Like Sam Williams, he also comes off as a nice guy when he speaks. And his draft stock was killed after the criminal charges were levied against him from a previous relationship. This probably wouldn't have phased me if I was in charge, because I know the nature of our system and society and have a pretty good grasp on psychology in general and how things go with these kinds of allegations, which are often merely control tactics women use when they don't get their way.

But I'm really rooting for Hendershot as a player, because he has the ability to turn into something special as a player and he apparently is a hard worker on the field.

On top of Hendershot, Jake Ferguson is also impressive. I suspected that would be the case. But after the draft, I couldn't decide which prospect had more potential between Hendershot and Ferguson. I still can't call that 100 percent, but I do think Hendershot has a slightly higher ceiling becuase he has the potential to be a more diverse player who can play TE, FB, H-back and ST.

I think Hendershot can develoo into a #2 TE but hes not athletic enough to be anything special.

Ferguson is a similar athlete to Schultz and think he can be that guy moving forward.

Neither would stop me from throwing a mid round dart at the draft board for a more athletic TE that can actually run.

 

[Pass2Run]

I think Hendershot can develoo into a #2 TE but hes not athletic enough to be anything special.

Ferguson is a similar athlete to Schultz and think he can be that guy moving forward.

Neither would stop me from throwing a mid round dart at the draft board for a more athletic TE that can actually run.

I disagree.

Hendershot has all the tools to develop into something special.

The lack of speed isn't really an issue, in my opinion.

 

[cnuball21]

I disagree.

Hendershot has all the tools to develop into something special.

The lack of speed isn't really an issue, in my opinion.

The guys that are special in the NFL are special athletes…Hendershot is a marginal athlete.

 

[Pass2Run]

The guys that are special in the NFL are special athletes…Hendershot is a marginal athlete.

You could have said the same thing for Witten, though, in terms of the measurables you're mentioning.

Hendershot can actually get faster if he works on speed.

Like, x pointed out above, Hendershot's 10 yard split, 3-cone, and even 20-yeard split measures out above average.

So, he's probably not going to be Shannon Sharpe. But he definitely has the ability to be a weapon.

The fact he has a nice burst within the first 10 yards tells me he can also be an h-back type, FB of sorts, at times.

 

[cnuball21]

You could have said the same thing for Witten, though, in terms of the measurables you're mentioning.

Hendershot can actually get faster if he works on speed.

Like, x pointed out above, Hendershot's 10 yard split, 3-cone, and even 20-yeard split measures out above average.

So, he's probably not going to be Shannon Sharpe. But he definitely has the ability to be a weapon.

The fact he has a nice burst within the first 10 yards tells me he can also be an h-back type, FB of sorts, at times.

No, you couldn’t. Wit ran a 4.65 at 265 which is absurd.

Everyone only remembers end of career Witten but dude could move his first several years.

No, the 40 isn’t everything, but i’d you want someone that’s going to be able to consistently run away from and separate from LBs/Ss it’s important:

 

[starfan1]

I didn’t advocate for a TE. I was saying the more and more we slide in the first the more value it is. If you’re picking at 29 and he’s on the board he will be the BPA. It’s better than reaching on a Bobby Carpenter, Taco Charlton or another Kelvin Joseph

I get BPA but it should be BPA of position of need and I don’t think TE is a need but you can never count out the cowboys to do a questionable pick

if it was the second round I’d say you may be on to something

 

[Pass2Run]

No, you couldn’t. Wit ran a 4.65 at 265 which is absurd.

Everyone only remembers end of career Witten but dude could move his first several years.

No, the 40 isn’t everything, but I’d you want someone that’s going to be able to consistently run away from and separate from LBs/Ss it’s important:

I realize what a great athlete Witten was. I stood next to him. In cleats, the guy stood like 6'7''. Was huge.

Hendershot actually has speed that some aren't giving him credit for. Plus, it's not always about your straight line speed.

There are plenty of backs, take Malik Davis, for example, who run 4.7 40 yard dash. And they just have a faster gear somewhere that doesn't measure well in the 40s.

I'm only saying, his lack of 40 speed, doesn't necessarily negate him from becoming one of the better TEs. It's not all contingent on speed.

He brings other elements, as a player. Scrappy, tough, steady, smart, reliable hands. You can count on him, which is evident from his college tape. And he'll deliver almost every time.

That's what separates guys like Hendershot from the other prospects with higher athletic measureables. He plays with a certain level of consistency, and trustworthiness.

He did a lot in college with an infamously crappy QB.

Plus, I can't think of a better celebration, ever, than the Wack-a-Mole one.