You Will Never Draft The Next Patrick Mahomes If You Handcuff Yourself To Alex Smith

[baltcowboy]

The best chance we had to get a top notch quarterback prospect ironically was 2016. The Cowboys refused to trade up two spots to get Goff or Wentz. Should have the Cowboys made that gamble?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

you are stuck. Drafting a QB ensures noting. Ask the jets. So we go all in and draft a qb and he ends up like Wilson and now you arent winning 12 games, you are going 7-10, 8-9, or 9-8 and missing the playoffs. The Chiefs struck Gold, The bengals struck gold, did the Dolphins? Did the Pats? Jets? and on and on and on. If you draft a kid you have to play him, so then that means Dak must go, you cant sit him. Its a damn tough situation. I am done with Dak though... so......ugh.

Realistically they can’t from under Dak. But I’d look in later rounds to find someone. The bar isn’t Mahomes. You can win with guys not as good as him. Chiefs are a far better team than people give them credit for. Andy Reid is an offensive mastermind and they do a great job of putting guys on that team that fits scheme. Dallas just puts names together and hope they gel.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The best chance we had to get a top notch quarterback prospect ironically was 2016. The Cowboys refused to trade up two spots to get Goff or Wentz. Should have the Cowboys made that gamble?

Would’ve set us back 10 years.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

There is no pals with me. I’m completely honest about dak. I’d move on if I have 100% with certainty an improvement. I don’t think that’s available to us right now. I also am not in denial that dak will be our quarterback whether you me or whomever doesn’t want him to be. He’s not going anywhere.

Still the line is stale maybe a new one wouldn’t hurt

That's the problem.

What in the world has Dak done that makes you say you'd only move on from him if we're 100% certain of an improvement? What has Dak done that makes you not even want to take chances?

You'd be saying "I only want to move on from Alex Smith if we're 100% sure a replacement would be better also", right?

The truth is there isn't 100% certainty in anything, but you're never going to get better if you don't even try.

You, my friend, have become conformable in the mediocrity.

 

[baltcowboy]

Would’ve set us back 10 years.

Maybe. Wentz would have been interesting playing in the Cowboys offense with his athleticism and arm. Most of us knew Romo was done.

 

[_sturt_]

let's rather have one really bad season

One?

Show me where that's guaranteed.

 

[Dalmations202]

I think some are finally seeing that QB/Coaching/scheme all go hand in hand.

Dak was a better QB when Romo was in his ear.
Jalen Hurts lost his starting job at Alabama. Went to OK. Was drafted in the 2nd round. Now seems like he is great. Wouldn't survive at all in a Tom Brady style offense though.

If an offense was designed around Daks strength, instead of the strange design of Kellen Moores offense. I still think Dallas could win it all.

 

[Streifenkarl]

One?

Show me where that's guaranteed.

LoL are you serious? Nothing is guaranteed, that goes for more seasons with Dak too. My point was, the risk is far smaller than you guys think. Doesn't mean there's no risk at all.

 

[starfan1]

I cant stand Mahomes but "there can be only one" The Chiefs got lucky! I think reid and kelse have alot to do with his success and of course tyrek when there but Patrick has as thing about him thats a once in a generation. The Cowboys could mortage the future on Bryce young and hed turn out to be Jemarcus Russell everything jerry touches turns to crap.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

thats not a bad idea we need a Good Backup so get the one in the 2nd - 4th round and then next year if we falter we will have higher 1st round pick and draft Next QB.

Yes, and Rush isn't going to stay as he's probably going to want a starting job after his 5 games. So, taking a QB this year like Duggan in rounds 2-4 gives us a QB that, depending on the battle, could replace Dak. However, in the meantime, he'd be able to debut whenever Dak is injured, as has been the case the last few seasons. So, we'd have a glimpse of how he can handle a pro offense this year. The next QB would be taken the next year, but, while having less time and experience, would be a higher draft pick, so the expectations would be higher and less time needed. Then, depending on how they fare, a trade would take place. There are always teams desperate for a young QB. We'd have two. So, the loser basically serves as a draft pick while the winner is the starting QB for the Cowboys and gets the treasures of a lot of picks used to strengthen any weaknesses we'd have.

 

[Asklesko]

Is Dak even as good as Alex Smith?

 

[Vtwin]

Do you have a few other examples of this strategy working?

The Rams and the Eagles.

 

[Ken]

The Rams and the Eagles.

The rams traded for an established vet. That is the Polar opposite of what the OP was stating. That was AFTER they gave up on the guy they drafted #1 overall who was supposed to be their Mahomes...lol

 

[diamonddelts]

Is Dak even as good as Alex Smith?

More talented? Yes. Better? No.

 

[kevm3]

Patrick Mahomes wouldn't be Patrick Mahomes here. He'd be another Romo who looks flashy but we blame him for not getting it done.

Mahomes gets to grow under Reid. Meanwhile, the next 'Mahomes' will get to develop under a Kellen Moore or a Jason Garrett and will get tethered to a bargain budget Stephen Jones team where more pressure is put on his shoulders because we need to be 'cap friendly.'

 

[_sturt_]

the risk is far smaller

Show me the evidence.

Until you can come up with that crucial piece of substance to make your argument compelling... I'm content that the risk is far smaller to assume that the current QB will regress to the mean in terms of his INT%, and that many QBs would have higher INT% if you give them receivers who as a group combined to have piss-poor separation stats.

Get rid of those INTs and play like he's played before, and the results of this season are almost irrefutably different.

You're exhausted. I get it. We all are.

But yeah, your idea of a remedy is reckless.

 

[starfan1]

More talented? Yes. Better? No.

Im not sure dak is more talented smith was drafted #1 for a reason. There were knocks on Dak all along thus why he is a 4th rounder. I think expecting dak to turn out to be aaron ,Rogers or Patrick mahomes is silly. The cowboys have put themselves in a spot where they need to increase the talent pool on the team

Last season they went backwards unfortunately

 

[JonesBoys]

I see many fans here simply satisfied with making the playoffs and winning a few regular season games.

The Chiefs made the playoffs the year they traded up to draft Mahomes and the rest is history.

We all know that if the situations would have been reversed we'd have fans here saying things like "Alex Smith's don't just grow on trees! We made the playoffs! You just need to get him help at WR and OL. If we do that we're good!"

It's impossible to know if you're getting the next Mahomes or the next Manziel, but you're never going to know unless you actually try.

The Cowboys FO biggest issue is handcuffing itself to mediocrity and becoming comfortable in it. That's not just with the QB position either. However, the QB position needs to be taken seriously. We've not taken a QB in the 1st round since Aikman. I'd much rather us try on the unknown talent then handcuff ourselves to mediocrity.

100% if the Cowboys were in the Chiefs position they would have never drafted Mahomes. They would have thought they were close and stayed the course. Chiefs are now going to their 3rd super bowl in 5 years. Ultimately we can get mad at this player and that coach but the front office is what's holding this team back and it has for 27 years with no end in sight.

 

[xwalker]

I see many fans here simply satisfied with making the playoffs and winning a few regular season games.

The Chiefs made the playoffs the year they traded up to draft Mahomes and the rest is history.

We all know that if the situations would have been reversed we'd have fans here saying things like "Alex Smith's don't just grow on trees! We made the playoffs! You just need to get him help at WR and OL. If we do that we're good!"

It's impossible to know if you're getting the next Mahomes or the next Manziel, but you're never going to know unless you actually try.

The Cowboys FO biggest issue is handcuffing itself to mediocrity and becoming comfortable in it. That's not just with the QB position either. However, the QB position needs to be taken seriously. We've not taken a QB in the 1st round since Aikman. I'd much rather us try on the unknown talent then handcuff ourselves to mediocrity.

No, but they could draft the next Tom Brady...

 

[conner01]

It’s a sound argument. And I have gotten to the point where I agree it’s time to do it.

I’m glad you at least recognize the risk involved in that the franchise may suck for years if it takes them a while to find an elite guy. So ink respect it.

By that measurement you’d be going through a lot of QB’s trying to find the next Mahomes though
You don’t need a HOF QB to win a SB
You need a good QB and a great team
The 49ers show you can win without an elite QB if you build a really good roster
They didn’t win yesterday but they got their with their 3rd string QB and a really good team around him