Giants ready to spend in free agency

Joe Schoen? General manager? It's not John Mara? Did Schoen marry into the family? What's the connection? There's no connection? Schoen was hired after a job search? What the heck is that? Schoen had 20 years of NFL experience before getting the job, including front office experience? This doesn't track. You don't just buy a team and give yourself the title of GM? Wait. What's that sound? Is... is that The Twilight Zone theme I hear?
 
DallasEast said:
Joe Schoen? General manager? It's not John Mara? Did Schoen marry into the family? What's the connection? There's no connection? Schoen was hired after a job search? What the heck is that? Schoen had 20 years of NFL experience before getting the job, including front office experience? This doesn't track. You don't just buy a team and give yourself the title of GM? Wait. What's that sound? Is... is that The Twilight Zone theme I hear?
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You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. Your next stop, the Twilight Zone!
 
DallasEast said:
Joe Schoen? General manager? It's not John Mara? Did Schoen marry into the family? What's the connection? There's no connection? Schoen was hired after a job search? What the heck is that? Schoen had 20 years of NFL experience before getting the job, including front office experience? This doesn't track. You don't just buy a team and give yourself the title of GM? Wait. What's that sound? Is... is that The Twilight Zone theme I hear?
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Great post. And then link it with the Daboll hire as a shared GM and HC vision on what the team will consist of.

Not an overnight sleepover with the self appointed GM/owner with a recently fired offensive playcalling coach who lied in his interview to get the job while agreeing to inherit an OC whom he'd never met as part of his hiring.

Cowboys!
 
MountaineerCowboy said:
Good.

The Cowboys finishing dead last or even 3rd in the division is the only thing that will promote real change.

Making the playoffs, even if you don't get past the divisional round ever, just ain't gonna do it.
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The following are, arguably, actual changes directly influenced by next-to-last or last place NFC East finishes during Jerry Jones' post-Jimmy Johnson GM tenure:

1997 - 4th NFC East - 1998? >Chan Gailey named head coach
2000 - 4th NFC East - 2001? [Consequence not directly related to the previous season's division finish] Troy Aikman retired during the offseason/Quincy Carter drafted as consequence [Bonus: Dave Campo remained head coach]
2001 - 5th NFC East - 2002? ???
2002 - 4th NFC East - 2003? >Bill Parcells named head coach (some observers have previously stated the hiring intentionally manipulated the approval of the new stadium's construction)
2004 - 3rd NFC East - 2005? >Parcells succeeded in persuading Jerry Jones to acquire Drew Bledsoe
2005 - 3rd NFC East - 2006? ???
2008 - 3rd NFC East - 2009? >The infamous offseason special teams' draft
2010 - 3rd NFC East - 2011? ???
2011 - 3rd NFC East - 2012? >First round draft pick Morris Claiborne
2012 - 3rd NFC East - 2013? >First round draft pick Travis Frederick
2015 - 4th NFC East - 2016? >First round draft pick Ezekiel Elliott
2020 - 3rd NFC East - 2021? >First round draft pick Micah Parsons

In your opinion, what 'real change' examples shall a next-to-last or last place 2023 NFC East finish prompt Jerry Jones into spearheading given his past general managership history? Would one of your examples include Mike McCarthy being fired?

I am interested in what you may be foreseeing as 'real change' happening under Jones. Honestly, I do not believe any direct circumstance shall mirror your expectation.
 
Daniel Jones is a 19M cap hit for the Giants this year. They have a 1 year window. After that, no chance at a SB appearance. But teams are ok with this.
 
MountaineerCowboy said:
Good.

The Cowboys finishing dead last or even 3rd in the division is the only thing that will promote real change.

Making the playoffs, even if you don't get past the divisional round ever, just ain't gonna do it.
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i disagree...there will not be real change until jerry passes on...
 
DallasEast said:
The following are, arguably, actual changes directly influenced by next-to-last or last place NFC East finishes during Jerry Jones' post-Jimmy Johnson GM tenure:

1997 - 4th NFC East - 1998? >Chan Gailey named head coach
2000 - 4th NFC East - 2001? [Consequence not directly related to the previous season's division finish] Troy Aikman retired during the offseason/Quincy Carter drafted as consequence [Bonus: Dave Campo remained head coach]
2001 - 5th NFC East - 2002? ???
2002 - 4th NFC East - 2003? >Bill Parcells named head coach (some observers have previously stated the hiring intentionally manipulated the approval of the new stadium's construction)
2004 - 3rd NFC East - 2005? >Parcells succeeded in persuading Jerry Jones to acquire Drew Bledsoe
2005 - 3rd NFC East - 2006? ???
2008 - 3rd NFC East - 2009? >The infamous offseason special teams' draft
2010 - 3rd NFC East - 2011? ???
2011 - 3rd NFC East - 2012? >First round draft pick Morris Claiborne
2012 - 3rd NFC East - 2013? >First round draft pick Travis Frederick
2015 - 4th NFC East - 2016? >First round draft pick Ezekiel Elliott
2020 - 3rd NFC East - 2021? >First round draft pick Micah Parsons

In your opinion, what 'real change' examples shall a next-to-last or last place 2023 NFC East finish prompt Jerry Jones into spearheading given his past general managership history? Would one of your examples include Mike McCarthy being fired?

I am interested in what you may be foreseeing as 'real change' happening under Jones. Honestly, I do not believe any direct circumstance shall mirror your expectation.
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No real need for change.

They are “THIS close,” and have been for a decade and change now.

I wonder how they can claim that, but then refuse to do what it takes to get over the hump. They don’t at all want to be exposed. Jeez, for all we know McClay is being paid more than MM to follow along with this charade.
 
fivetwos said:
Jeez, for all we know McClay is being paid more than MM to follow along with this charade.
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I have often wondered what is McClay's annual compensation? I would find it difficult working in a position without the correct title description that I am qualified for. At least money would ease some of that frustration.
 
Their bigger issue is drafting poorly rather than spending poorly. They’ve had some top ten picks recently and not sure they got great returns…even Barkley hasn’t produced due to injury and he was the best pick they’ve made since OBJ. Jones has mostly stunk until this year and I’m still not sold on him. I watched Parsons destroy all their OL.
 
ghst187 said:
Their bigger issue is drafting poorly rather than spending poorly. They’ve had some top ten picks recently and not sure they got great returns…even Barkley hasn’t produced due to injury and he was the best pick they’ve made since OBJ. Jones has mostly stunk until this year and I’m still not sold on him. I watched Parsons destroy all their OL.
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They are an odd team. In the East, they to me, are the least talented team. But they find ways to win.

I see a guy like Jakobi Meyers being their big splash guy and being similar to Golladay
 
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