Does Anyone Else Feel Like We Are Hitting A Personnel Cliff?

[speedkilz88]

Just compare to the eagles. They have Jason Kelce, Lane Johnson, Brandon Graham, Darius Slay and Fletcher Cox

 

[TheHerd]

Just compare to the eagles. They have Jason Kelce, Lane Johnson, Brandon Graham, Darius Slay and Fletcher Cox

All of those players, despite their age, played every game last year. And Kelce and Johnson are still all pro level producers, Graham had his first ever defensive player of the week last year. Somehow they are all “young” 30s and our 30s players seem a lot older. Might be perception only, but Dallas players seem to age in dog years. Zack Martin is not human so he’s out exception.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I’m loving the solid moves the Cowboys have made this off-season so far, but Im also concerned we are quietly approaching a significant personnel cliff in the next 2 years due to age or guys just not quite worth a new contract (T Smith, Martin, Gilmore, Cooks, Lawrence, our DTs, etc)

They’d have to draft extremely well to cover outgoing personnel while also improving other positions

IF the Cowboys dont continue to fix this Oline then any hope of a contending run is diminished. WE saw last year and the year before that our Oline isnt good enough. Tyron needs to be replaced with a stud.

 

[ksadler1]

Being a .500 team for several seasons.

How is that worse when the end result is still the same?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

We worry about the future too much around here, we haven’t won a Super Bowl since 1995. The Cowboys have a 2year plan to try to win the championship. Let them work it, they drafted well and will continue to do so with McClay and the gang.

We've been in a rebuilding stage since the 90's and we've been relevant which is all Jerry cares about barring injuries since Parcells.So this team will still be relevant. Doing anything in the playoffs is another story.

 

[Bullflop]

We'll be hard pressed to replace each and every one of our older stalwarts that have manned some of the most important positions on this team. I think that fact is far more obvious than many of us are willing to admit. We'll be greatly pressured to attempt replacing each and every one of the starters who may well need replacing as the coming season approaches. Let's really hope some timely veteran FA additions are welcomed into many of the starting spots that may otherwise require successful attention. Backup depth will be of paramount importance this season, for sure. As always, the draft must be attended to with special significance, and a keen eye for truly promising talent. Let's hope our FO faithfully heeds the sound advice of their scouts.

 

[gtb1943]

IMO, Being too concerned about the future is one of the bad habits of our FO. If you want to be serious contenders for a Lombardi, what matters most is is the upcoming season.

Jerry wants a winning team that appears to be a contender. That is his comfort zone.

Sadly, the old wildcatter no longer takes the big chances. No longer takes the big risks.

You will NOT win it all unless you do that. So here we are.

 

[KJJ]

Nobody wins it all without doing well in FA. No team has won it all without getting some high priced critical FA's.
For those satisfied with the status quo this is fine.
For those of us wanting more; expecting more it is not far enough

Teams were winning championships long before free agency. Some of the greatest NFL dynasties never experienced free agency. All those teams were built through the draft. The great 90s Cowboys were built mainly through the draft. KC’s two players that have helped lead them to a couple of championships were players they drafted. The Cowboys have added some high priced free agents in the past and the only one that paid off was Deion Sanders. Free agency is a supplement but you build great teams through the draft.

 

[nightrain]

I’m loving the solid moves the Cowboys have made this off-season so far, but Im also concerned we are quietly approaching a significant personnel cliff in the next 2 years due to age or guys just not quite worth a new contract (T Smith, Martin, Gilmore, Cooks, Lawrence, our DTs, etc)

They’d have to draft extremely well to cover outgoing personnel while also improving other positions

If they handle their business going forward like they have started 2023 out, they will be well on their way to perennial post-season contention. Add in they need to continue their proficiency on draft day. If they intend to ride with Dak, need to get him extended now.

 

[Bobhaze]

Teams were winning championships long before free agency. Some of the greatest NFL dynasties never experienced free agency. All those teams were built through the draft. The great 90s Cowboys were built mainly through the draft. KC’s two players that have helped lead them to a couple of championships were players they drafted. The Cowboys have added some high priced free agents in the past and the only one that paid off was Deion Sanders. Free agency is a supplement but you build great teams through the draft.

Here’s why Jerry repeats so many of the same mistakes: It’s hard to learn when you cannot admit your mistakes.

 

[CowboyFrog]

With all the cap space the team has accumulated through restructures and cuts, it seems like the Cowboys are primed to offer lucrative 1 year deals to some of the remaining impact free agents.

While it’s surprising Wagner didn’t fit into the teams plans, it may of been more his desire to go back to Seattle. He had a contentious departure, and maybe wanted to make things right.

I’m looking for the front office to be aggressive with the cap space, or we’ll likely go into the season short of the depth we need.

To me the Wagner deal must be a DQ thing, if DQ really wnated him then i think he would be here.. it was 7m cap hit he took in Seattle? We had that so DQ must not have pressed for it in my opinion.

 

[gtb1943]

Here’s why Jerry repeats so many of the same mistakes: It’s hard to learn when you cannot admit your mistakes.

Yep.

Clearly some people do not get it: you cannot win the old way because of FA and the Cap. You cannot take five or so years steadily building a team through the draft and trades.

BUT some here are also satisfied with the status quo and attack anyone threatening it.

They fear so much that they will never take the steps needed to win championships

Which is possibly why the clown show is risk adverse in FA.

Probably better than being satisfied with the status quo because they are making lots of money.

Those claiming Jethro and company want to win refuse to admit they want to ONLY WIN THEIR WAY. Other than that THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Yep.

Clearly some people do not get it: you cannot win the old way because of FA and the Cap. You cannot take five or so years steadily building a team through the draft and trades.

BUT some here are also satisfied with the status quo and attack anyone threatening it.

They fear so much that they will never take the steps needed to win championships

Which is possibly why the clown show is risk adverse in FA.

Probably better than being satisfied with the status quo because they are making lots of money.

Those claiming Jethro and company want to win refuse to admit they want to ONLY WIN THEIR WAY. Other than that THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED.

I think most understand this actually, does JJ want to win..yes, is he willing to box up his ego to do it?..NOPE

 

[Rockport]

I’m loving the solid moves the Cowboys have made this off-season so far, but Im also concerned we are quietly approaching a significant personnel cliff in the next 2 years due to age or guys just not quite worth a new contract (T Smith, Martin, Gilmore, Cooks, Lawrence, our DTs, etc)

They’d have to draft extremely well to cover outgoing personnel while also improving other positions

I don’t get why some folks always trying to turn a positive into a negative. That’s a horrible way to live.

 

[Rockport]

Yep.

Clearly some people do not get it: you cannot win the old way because of FA and the Cap. You cannot take five or so years steadily building a team through the draft and trades.

BUT some here are also satisfied with the status quo and attack anyone threatening it.

They fear so much that they will never take the steps needed to win championships

Which is possibly why the clown show is risk adverse in FA.

Probably better than being satisfied with the status quo because they are making lots of money.

Those claiming Jethro and company want to win refuse to admit they want to ONLY WIN THEIR WAY. Other than that THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED.

Now that you’ve spinned it so that it makes you feel better do you feel better. Jeez. Please show ONE poster who refuses to admit the Jones only want to win it there way. Just ONE.

 

[TheCritic]

I’m loving the solid moves the Cowboys have made this off-season so far, but Im also concerned we are quietly approaching a significant personnel cliff in the next 2 years due to age or guys just not quite worth a new contract (T Smith, Martin, Gilmore, Cooks, Lawrence, our DTs, etc)

They’d have to draft extremely well to cover outgoing personnel while also improving other positions

I doubt anybody here would agree with me, but I would actually be relieved if there were a couple of seasons in a row where the Cowboys were not trying to contend, focused on rebuilding and clearing out cap space. Maybe a couple of season in a row where they could draft top 5, maybe draft a ready-made franchise QB. Somehow the Cowboys are expected to be contenders every season but never get the opportunity to reset.

 

[Nova]

Replacing the OL staples has always been a concern of mine.

They really got the Smith, TFred, and Martin picks right, but I don't have a ton of confidence they'll find guys of those caliber again.

 

[Cowboys5217]

This is why it is so important to go all in while you have the chance. Your window won't last long.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dak's the only outright tough contract to swallow right now.

You always have to draft well. We are doing that.

Yes, there will be large contracts coming up but every team has them.

Especially with what i'm seeing at QB in the NFC this year. I think we got a real good shot.

A lot of these vets are on 1 or 2 year deals and they're not overpaid for what they can produce. We're good right now.

Dak's contract is oddly bargain right now.

 

[buybuydandavis]

The roster, at least its core, is getting older. But I'd be a lot more concerned if they'd actually won something.

The truth is, they haven't.

Tony's career and no playoff success to show for it.
Soon enough that will be Tyron and Martin too.

Frederick left the Big Triplets early, and you can't put that on Jerry, but they're the real wasted opportunity. That much talent on the oline comes around once in a blue moon.

Shoulda gone with Tony in the playoffs in 2016. That was our window for one side of the ball to be truly dominant.