Video: Dak's first pick of training camp

[OmerV]

It's how my mind works.

I see Dak lead the league in Pick 6s and INTs despite missing a 3rd of the season....and his INTs costing several games and my mind works like this:

" there's something wrong. SOMETHING must change...or the same thing will happen again."

So I start looking for things that could have caused the massive INTs last year, and the fact that every one of his seasons has ended with a loss. That's how my brain works. But in my job....my job is also to improve a company...identify problems, and make it the best company it can be...not rest on my laurels and just "get by"

I think a lot of people just are happy with what he is, and what we've become...and the seasons the cowboys have had...with a wild card win here and there every 3 or 4 years. They SAY they want a GREAT QB...but they wouldn't want to do anything to push Dak or identify flaws with him to get that improvement. They look to explain away or defend any possible flaw. So there is no change. They want a great QB....but if someone like me dares to say "hmmm...maybe this, or that, might make a positive change they attack. The cowboys and it's fanbase are a GREAT place to work if you just want to coast along, give a B product... get ur 10 or 11 wins...maybe a WC win every so often...and then tee it up and hit REPEAT the next year.

Just not how I'm wired though. Tough Love just doesn't work with a sissy culture. So this team and fans really deserve the Dak they love....and should be ok with a repeat of 2022 Dak...because he's beyond reproach

That was one season out of 7, so by your logic he was throwing one of the most catchable balls in the NFL in seasons he had 4 or 8 interceptions, and now suddenly he can't throw a catchable ball. How does that make sense, especially considering he always has a very high completion %?

I have no problem blaming Dak when a bad throw gets picked off, and admittedly last year wasn't one of Dak's best, but WR's aren't paid to have the ball handed to them or tossed underhand or to catch it only if there isn't a DB close by. If the ball is thrown in a location where there is a high or even reasonable expectation the receiver should catch it, and that receiver drops or tips it, that is on the receiver.

Yes, there are some fans that are complacent with what Dak has done, but recognizing when a tipped pass is on the receiver or on the QB doesn't mean someone is that way.

 

[DallasEast]

eli was one of the luckiest sob in all of sports. Man those wrs went after that ball no matter where eli blindly heaved it. Big o line. Couple big bruising rbs. Stout defense.
Lucky sob.

Lucky? Yep. Must be nice seeing your receivers make difficult catches when they are needed the most despite the throw itself.

 

[DallasEast]

That was one season out of 7, so by your logic he was throwing one of the most catchable balls in the NFL in seasons he had 4 or 8 interceptions, and now suddenly he can't throw a catchable ball. How does that make sense, especially considering he always has a very high completion %?

I have no problem blaming Dak when a bad throw gets picked off, and admittedly last year wasn't one of Dak's best, but WR's aren't paid to have the ball handed to them or tossed underhand or to catch it only if there isn't a DB close by. If the ball is thrown in a location where there is a high or even reasonable expectation the receiver should catch it, and that receiver drops or tips it, that is on the receiver.

Yes, there are some fans that are complacent with what Dak has done, but recognizing when a tipped pass is on the receiver or on the QB doesn't mean someone is that way.

I have had these types of conversations face-to-face with people for nearly forty years. Good luck.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

That was one season out of 7, so by your logic he was throwing one of the most catchable balls in the NFL in seasons he had 4 or 8 interceptions, and now suddenly he can't throw a catchable ball. How does that make sense, especially considering he always has a very high completion %?

I have no problem blaming Dak when a bad throw gets picked off, and admittedly last year wasn't one of Dak's best, but WR's aren't paid to have the ball handed to them or tossed underhand or to catch it only if there isn't a DB close by. If the ball is thrown in a location where there is a high or even reasonable expectation the receiver should catch it, and that receiver drops or tips it, that is on the receiver.

Yes, there are some fans that are complacent with what Dak has done, but recognizing when a tipped pass is on the receiver or on the QB doesn't mean someone is that way.

Ok forget the INTs. You think he's done all he needs to in all his other season? No improvement needed? Or maybe it's more like, improvement would be welcome, but only if it happens spontaneously because we surely shouldn't point out or try to find areas he could prove on?

Part 2 of my question: which team do you hope we lose to in the WC or Divisional round game this year? Kepp on keepin' on!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dream on, WENTZ 2.0 threw numerous interceptions that were off target.

A crusade of one person.. you are the only one carrying the flag of Wentz 2.0.... it's hilarious. Now you have tried so hard. Been doing it so long. You can't quit or you look like a fool. Not realizing you already are a fool. Just too dang funny

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Ok forget the INTs. You think he's done all he needs to in all his other season? No improvement needed? Or maybe it's more like, improvement would be welcome, but only if it happens spontaneously because we surely shouldn't point out or try to find areas he could prove on?

Part 2 of my question: which team do you hope we lose to in the WC or Divisional round game this year? Kepp on keepin' on!

So you lost the battle of interception attack in first practice....so essentially switch topics to something you feel you can argue about...

Way to admit you were wrong

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It's how my mind works.

I see Dak lead the league in Pick 6s and INTs despite missing a 3rd of the season....and his INTs costing several games and my mind works like this:

" there's something wrong. SOMETHING must change...or the same thing will happen again."

So I start looking for things that could have caused the massive INTs last year, and the fact that every one of his seasons has ended with a loss. That's how my brain works. But in my job....my job is also to improve a company...identify problems, and make it the best company it can be...not rest on my laurels and just "get by"

I think a lot of people just are happy with what he is, and what we've become...and the seasons the cowboys have had...with a wild card win here and there every 3 or 4 years. They SAY they want a GREAT QB...but they wouldn't want to do anything to push Dak or identify flaws with him to get that improvement. They look to explain away or defend any possible flaw. So there is no change. They want a great QB....but if someone like me dares to say "hmmm...maybe this, or that, might make a positive change they attack. The cowboys and it's fanbase are a GREAT place to work if you just want to coast along, give a B product... get ur 10 or 11 wins...maybe a WC win every so often...and then tee it up and hit REPEAT the next year.

Just not how I'm wired though. Tough Love just doesn't work with a sissy culture. So this team and fans really deserve the Dak they love....and should be ok with a repeat of 2022 Dak...because he's beyond reproach

You are a newbie to football, aren't you? Wow your post speaks volu.es about lack of basic knowledge..

Interesting...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

That was one season out of 7, so by your logic he was throwing one of the most catchable balls in the NFL in seasons he had 4 or 8 interceptions, and now suddenly he can't throw a catchable ball. How does that make sense, especially considering he always has a very high completion %?

I have no problem blaming Dak when a bad throw gets picked off, and admittedly last year wasn't one of Dak's best, but WR's aren't paid to have the ball handed to them or tossed underhand or to catch it only if there isn't a DB close by. If the ball is thrown in a location where there is a high or even reasonable expectation the receiver should catch it, and that receiver drops or tips it, that is on the receiver.

Yes, there are some fans that are complacent with what Dak has done, but recognizing when a tipped pass is on the receiver or on the QB doesn't mean someone is that way.

Leave him be. He is a newbie to football... he is ways to go to understand little nuances of a football game.

 

[Section446]

Nothing new.

 

[OmerV]

Ok forget the INTs. You think he's done all he needs to in all his other season? No improvement needed? Or maybe it's more like, improvement would be welcome, but only if it happens spontaneously because we surely shouldn't point out or try to find areas he could prove on?

Part 2 of my question: which team do you hope we lose to in the WC or Divisional round game this year? Kepp on keepin' on!

That's an entirely different topic. Looking realistically at a tipped pass that should have been caught is not commentary on Dak as a whole, just on those specific moments.

Changing the topic doesn't change that what you said was illogical.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

That's an entirely different topic. Looking realistically at a tipped pass that should have been caught is not commentary on Dak as a whole, just on those specific moments.

Changing the topic doesn't change that what you said was illogical.

It shows that I'm on the lookout for anything. Something. I'm desperate for change.

So if you think Dak's accuracy is fine...then what do YOU think HE (not coaches, not teammates) what HE needs to drastically improve on?

In fact, I don't want to put words in ur mouth. Do you think he needs drastic improvement? Or just needs to be a little better? Or he's ok just as he is? If improvement is needed, what are HIS faults that need fixing, in ur opinion?

A lot of people in here love to shoot other people's suggestions down for improvement, but they have no suggestions of their own.

What do you say?

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

You are a newbie to football, aren't you? Wow your post speaks volu.es about lack of basic knowledge..

Interesting...

Try to respond without insults....it will make whatever point ur trying to make (if u have one) more apparent. Do you have a point?

My point is.....what I've seen of him, isn't good enough....and am trying to pinpoint the root cause of HIS shortcomings...by looking at everything and anything.

What is YOUR point? You want him to be exactly as he has been? (Not his WRs, not his coaches, or other teammates...but HIM). If u think he's done all he needs to and just needs to keep his status quo, fine...that's ur opinion then.

If u don't have a point...and just want to blather cheap insults, please don't bother responding

 

[Jarv]

Pretty much how all Dak's interceptions are.

Lol...You just had to do it!

 

[OmerV]

It shows that I'm on the lookout for anything. Something. I'm desperate for change.

So if you think Dak's accuracy is fine...then what do YOU think HE (not coaches, not teammates) what HE needs to drastically improve on?

In fact, I don't want to put words in ur mouth. Do you think he needs drastic improvement? Or just needs to be a little better? Or he's ok just as he is? If improvement is needed, what are HIS faults that need fixing, in ur opinion?

A lot of people in here love to shoot other people's suggestions down for improvement, but they have no suggestions of their own.

What do you say?

Being on the lookout to the point you are grasping at straws and reaching illogical conclusions is not constructive.

Of course improvement needs to occur - with Dak and the entire team. I never said or suggested otherwise. Sometimes Dak can force throws for example. That can lead to an INT.

 

[Blackrain]

Jeez if you drop that pass in my neighborhood you'd find yourself sitting on the Storm sewer. Waiting for someone to get called home so the teams would be uneven and you could play again.

Simi should have been made to run laps till practice was over in front of everybody to make the point that plays like that will not be tolerated and that's what gets you beat in the playoffs mistakes like that can't be tolerated at an NFL level.

I for one have seen too many games get changed by these tip passes these wannabe NFL receivers need to be accountable and training camp is the time embarrass them torture them in the Sun whatever it takes to get a group of guys that can catch the freaking ball and not hear footsteps tired of this bunch of kitty cat receivers we have you think they were playing with Ronnie Lott or something

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Being on the lookout to the point you are grasping at straws and reaching illogical conclusions is not constructive.

Of course improvement needs to occur - with Dak and the entire team. I never said or suggested otherwise. Sometimes Dak can force throws for example. That can lead to an INT.

So....occasional forced throws is it? Other than that....all good?

 

[blueblood70]

Lucky? Yep. Must be nice seeing your receivers make difficult catches when they are needed the most despite the throw itself.

Exactly!!

anyone watch ESPN?? you watch the top ten highlight reels top plays of the week??

you know those don't happen because balls were thrown perfectly, these circus catches are because balls are not always thrown perfectly but in this case and at least 4 times last year balls did hit players in the hands and bounced OFF!!

Now some are saying they're not catchable, seriously? they must be a bad ball daks throwing too hard??lol who knows but that's stupid, literally watch some of the best quarterbacks of all time be part of highlight reel catches, that means they did not throw the ball accurately and the receiver made a ridiculous catch.

 

[OmerV]

So....occasional forced throws is it? Other than that....all good?

You are very persistent about changing the subject away from your original, illogical comments aren't you?

What would I expect from a guy that said he was prefacing his comments in a remark made at the end of his comments? lol

I clearly wrote "for example", which means I was providing an example, not commentary on every aspect of Dak's game.

 

[lopey]

That ball couldn't have been placed any more perfect! Spot on bullseye throw.

Wide Receiver 101 Part III​

Catching​

Accept the ball: Receivers should extend their arms out and accept the ball as it comes to them. However, some recceivers “fight” the ball or throw their hands at it causing a collision with the ball. This doesn’t mean that receivers should wait for a ball and not run back to it since we know that is important. However, they have to make sure they are accepting the ball into their hands.

https://competitivedrivetraining.wordpress.com/2018/06/13/wide-receiver-101-part-iii-catching/

Clearly, Fehoko is starting to extend his arms out in order to accept the ball into his hands. The problem is he was late getting his arms up and out. Plus, his hands were not in a triangle webbed position to accept the ball into his mitts like a baseball catcher accepts a baseball into the webbing of his glove. If you look at Fehoko's hands (below), you will see his hands were slightly apart from each other. No diamond was formed as expected to form his hands together into the proper and best way to catch a football. Plus, his left hand was slightly open, away and below from where his right hand was, thus creating a big enough open gap between his hands which ultimately allowed the football to pass right between his hands, hit him square on his face mask and bounce straight up into the air for the interception.

Sure, there was a slight wobble early in the throw at the top of its arch when the ball came out of Dak's hand, but the throw auto-corrected itself into a spiral as it continued towards and reached Fehoko. That pass was spot on right on target, in stride and should have been an easy catch. That interception was clearly on Simi Fehoko, not Dak.

Looks to me the receiver was not ready. As you said he alligators the arms It’s a slant. Gotta be ready or your on the street

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Try to respond without insults....it will make whatever point ur trying to make (if u have one) more apparent. Do you have a point?

My point is.....what I've seen of him, isn't good enough....and am trying to pinpoint the root cause of HIS shortcomings...by looking at everything and anything.

What is YOUR point? You want him to be exactly as he has been? (Not his WRs, not his coaches, or other teammates...but HIM). If u think he's done all he needs to and just needs to keep his status quo, fine...that's ur opinion then.

If u don't have a point...and just want to blather cheap insults, please don't bother responding

Post something intelligent and people will respond with meaningful rebuttles. Post idiocy and you get Called out.

And that wasn't an insult. It was an observation. Evident from everything you have said